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  • radical
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    • Oct 2003
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    #1

    America - what's your thoughts on Tony Blair?

    Just gathering some opinions here!

    I was watching a political program earlier and they were saying that if Blair turns round and criticises Bush then Bush will fall but they said Blair doesn't have the balls to do this etc etc etc!!

    They also said Blair is well respected in America, what's your thoughts on him?




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  • Paraskass
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    #2
    Isn't he the guy sleeping with George W. Bush?

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    • Fletch XXX
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      #3
      the only reason Blair might be respected here is because most Americans are not used to someone who can speak that well and they are impressed, other than that Americans have no clue who he is, what he has done (if anything, or anything about him a s a person.

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      • radical
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        #4
        Originally posted by Paraskass
        Isn't he the guy sleeping with George W. Bush?
        He reads bush his bed time story each night




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        • radical
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          #5
          Originally posted by Fletch XXX
          the only reason Blair might be respected here is because most Americans are not used to someone who can speak that well and they are impressed, other than that Americans have no clue who he is, what he has done (if anything, or anything about him a s a person.

          So what your saying is that the average american has no idea he is the Prime Minister of the UK.!!

          hmmmmm!!!




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          • Paraskass
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            #6
            Originally posted by radical
            So what your saying is that the average american has no idea he is the Prime Minister of the UK.!!

            hmmmmm!!!
            I concur.

            Most americans can't even tell you where England is on a map.

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            • EviLGuY
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              • Apr 2003
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              #7
              Americans love that British accent.

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              • Fletch XXX
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                #8
                Originally posted by radical
                So what your saying is that the average american has no idea he is the Prime Minister of the UK.!!

                hmmmmm!!!
                Pretty much.

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                • radical
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by EviLGuY
                  Americans love that British accent.
                  lol




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                  • ldinternet
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Paraskass
                    I concur.

                    Most americans can't even tell you where England is on a map.
                    Neither can most Brits.

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                    • radical
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX
                      Pretty much.
                      Cheers Fletch!! Juts trying to get your prespective on him




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                      • herbal logic
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                        #12
                        seems like a good leader... he risked alot supporting bush

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                        • radical
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ldinternet
                          Neither can most Brits.

                          lol sad but in some cases this is true




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                          • Fletch XXX
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by radical
                            Cheers Fletch!! Juts trying to get your prespective on him
                            He is a much better bullshitter than we have, but they are all the same.

                            Snakes and Liars.

                            NO matter good they speak or how warm inside they make you feel. None of them are worth a dime.

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                            • radical
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by herbal logic
                              seems like a good leader... he risked alot supporting bush

                              Yep well he might lose his leadership through it!!




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                              • JDog
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                                #16
                                I love Blair. He's better than Bush, I just can't imagine that he went into this war with us. I'm think that Blair knew what the American public knew when we went to war.

                                I would rather be under the control of Blair than Bush tho in my personal opinion.

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                                • stev0
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                                  #17
                                  I don't know much about him.... he seems kind of like Bush's puppet to me.

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                                  • synergysex
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                                    #18
                                    Kill him.
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                                    • Mr.Fiction
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                                      #19
                                      Blair is weak. He used to kiss Clinton's ass, now he kisses Bush's ass.

                                      Does he have any views of his own or does he just do whatever he is told by the current American leader?

                                      Seems like it would suck to have the leader of your country be another country's bitch.
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                                      • trouserrat
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                                        #20
                                        Great leader and speaker. One of the few men left with balls to stand firm. Reminds me of Churchill.

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                                        • Mr.Fiction
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by trouserrat
                                          Great leader and speaker. One of the few men left with balls to stand firm. Reminds me of Churchill.
                                          Stand firm? Blair doesn't stand for anything at all. He does whatever he is told by America.

                                          He follows orders from America like a child who's afraid of being beaten.

                                          He is not a leader, he's a follower.
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                                          • Overscore
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                                            #22
                                            I think he kicks ass and I love the fact that we're working with him to kill those towelhead motherfucking worthless hahahahas.
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                                            • trouserrat
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                              Stand firm? Blair doesn't stand for anything at all. He does whatever he is told by America.

                                              He follows orders from America like a child who's afraid of being beaten.

                                              He is not a leader, he's a follower.
                                              blah blah blah. I'm sure you could do a much better job. Just tell them how many posts you have on GFY, I'm sure they'll be happy to turn the job over to you.

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                                              • Webby
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                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                #24
                                                Blair is another "smart ass" who was elected to "serve" and failed to serve those who elected him.

                                                He is not a stupid man, but clearly has visions that are beyond him and have little to do with reflecting the wishes of the people he is serving.

                                                Blair is another one of Bush's "dead man walking" friends - much the same as Bush, Rumsfeld and the club et al - you reap what you sow.
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                                                • CamChicks
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                                                  #25
                                                  if you stopped and asked random americans in the street about him, I'd be surprised if more than half knew who he was . . and few would know enough about him to form an educated opinion. but knowing americans, that wouldn't stop them from having an opinion. "He should have won 'American Idol' instead of that other bitch.."

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                                                  • Downtime
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                                                    #26
                                                    In my opinion Blair is well respected over here in the states. To me he's a strong leader, not by the fact that he's articulate but because of his constant confidence and strength. He's not going to criticize George because he has no reason to; Britain is our strongest ally and has been for many years. Don't let the hippy minority make it seem like all of America is against Bush and its current administration, there's a reason why he'll be reelected this fall, as will Tony Blair.
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                                                    • AWC
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by trouserrat
                                                      Great leader and speaker. One of the few men left with balls to stand firm. Reminds me of Churchill.
                                                      I would agree... much respect for Tony. Loyalty goes a long way with me. One of the few euro leaders with the nads to standup and not take it in the ass.

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                                                      • cosis
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                                                        #28
                                                        Blair is cool, he seems a little weak but I have no problem with him

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                                                        • Webby
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                                                          #29
                                                          AWC:

                                                          I would agree... much respect for Tony. Loyalty goes a long way with me. One of the few euro leaders with the nads to standup and not take it in the ass.
                                                          Where you from AWC? US??

                                                          Don't ask UK people what they think of Blair - that "respect" won't last 60 seconds.

                                                          Don't think for a moment that Blair and any "loyality" to the US means anything. The UK did not, and does not want to know anything about the US Admin. It's a subject that most UK people would not touch without rubber gloves on.

                                                          However, despite all the total bullshit with "US wars" and all the crap that had yet to come out, - there is little doubt the UK as a whole does want to have a friendly alliance with the US, tho sometimes that is having a strain put on it because of the idiot in charge. You can't condemn a nation because of it's idiots.
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                                                          • trouserrat
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Webby
                                                            AWC:



                                                            Where you from AWC? US??

                                                            Don't ask UK people what they think of Blair - that "respect" won't last 60 seconds.

                                                            Don't think for a moment that Blair and any "loyality" to the US means anything. The UK did not, and does not want to know anything about the US Admin. It's a subject that most UK people would not touch without rubber gloves on.

                                                            However, despite all the total bullshit with "US wars" and all the crap that had yet to come out, - there is little doubt the UK as a whole does want to have a friendly alliance with the US, tho sometimes that is having a strain put on it because of the idiot in charge. You can't condemn a nation because of it's idiots.
                                                            Ahh, I just got my copy of "Wacko Anti-American Rhetoric & You: An Idiot's Guide". Now I know where you get this stuff.

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                                                            • Mr.Fiction
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by AWC
                                                              I would agree... much respect for Tony. Loyalty goes a long way with me. One of the few euro leaders with the nads to standup and not take it in the ass.
                                                              "Loyalty" to Bush, not to his own people.

                                                              You wouldn't be saying that same thing if Bush had the "nads" to stand up and support Jacque Chirac in every decision he made.

                                                              Imagine the U.S. president did whatever he was told by the German president - would you respect him? Of course you wouldn't.

                                                              Being Bush's bitch is only respected by people who are also Bush's bitches.
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                                                              • trouserrat
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                "Loyalty" to Bush, not to his own people.

                                                                You wouldn't be saying that same thing if Bush had the "nads" to stand up and support Jacque Chirac in every decision he made.

                                                                Imagine the U.S. president did whatever he was told by the German president - would you respect him? Of course you wouldn't.

                                                                Being Bush's bitch is only respected by people who are also Bush's bitches.
                                                                Your name describes your rhetoric. Assuming Blair honestly believes in George Bush's policies, how could he win in this situation? If he goes with Bush, he is called Bush's bitch. If he goes against Bush, he betrays his own feelings and beliefs. Sorta lose/lose there. And by the way, I *would* respect George Bush if in supporting another leader's decisions across the board, he was still doing what he thought was right and best for his country.

                                                                Anyhow, I've never seen so many uninformed people talking politics out of their ass as on this board. I've seen foreign Bush-haters scoff at how silly Americans are for believing what they are told in the US media. Since the US media (with the exception of talk radio) is decidedly of a liberal slant, I would think they would be happy Americans believe what we hear. It certainly isn't going to be *pro* Bush. Quite the contrary.
                                                                I read in a thread the other day someone calling a conservative "you right-wing tree-hugger". The Republican party has been historically anti-environment. In fact, it's usually one of the Democrats biggest talking points against them.
                                                                And lastly, for all the people who compare Bush to Hitler, get a clue. As I said in a previous thread, educate yourself before you speak. I really wonder how much you or the people that made that ridiculous "Same Shit, Different Asshole" sign really know about Adolf Hitler. Read these two books for starters: "Hitler: Hubris", "Hitler:Nemesis" both by Ian Kershaw.
                                                                They're each about 800 pages so you might want to pretend they're super-size Spidey comics to get you through. I'm sure it will become clear how absurd these Bush/Hitler parallels are. They simply point out the ignorance of people espousing them.
                                                                If Bush were Hitler, Michael Moore would be in an unmarked grave by now, not publishing books and making movies. John Kerry wouldn't be on the campaign trail, he'd be rotting in an internment camp or six feet under next to Moore. Ted Kennedy would be strung up in a basement cell with piano wire. In addition, we wouldn't be investigating ourselves into a near state of paralysis because of charges of abuse against *enemy* prisoners. The Gestapo didn't have a commission to investigate themselves. People just disappeared and that was that. Werner von Blomberg or Wilhelm Keitel weren't grilled on the stand by Reichstag members. Come to think of it, the Reichstag was basically disbanded under Hitler. Last time I checked Congress was still here. In fact, they're the ones doing the aforementioned grilling of everyone they can get their hands on. It appeared that sign I mentioned was in Germany. How soon they forget what they allowed to be unleashed on the world. Shame on them.

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                                                                • webmaster x
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  British accents are kinda cool.
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                                                                  • jas1552
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
                                                                    "Loyalty" to Bush, not to his own people.

                                                                    You wouldn't be saying that same thing if Bush had the "nads" to stand up and support Jacque Chirac in every decision he made.

                                                                    Imagine the U.S. president did whatever he was told by the German president - would you respect him? Of course you wouldn't.

                                                                    Being Bush's bitch is only respected by people who are also Bush's bitches.
                                                                    So if he's not "loyal" to Bush what would be the negative consequences for him? What does he gain by being "loyal" to Bush? Obviously nothing politically. His support for Bush and the war has hurt him politically. I could be wrong but I think he either thinks the war itself was the right thing to do or he thinks sticking with the US is the best thing for the UK. Either way it seems to me he thinks he's doing the right thing for his country even though he knew it would hurt him politically. He seems like a strong leader to me and I respect him.

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                                                                    • TheFrog
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ldinternet
                                                                      Neither can most Brits.

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