epiccash stops paying 0.75$/mail

**dropped9** · 05-10-2004, 12:19 PM

deja vu

**KMR Stitch** · 05-10-2004, 12:22 PM

That sucks

**Strife** · 05-10-2004, 12:23 PM

It wasn't long ago that they announced that they would be paying $1 per email...that never happened. Now their only paying $0.50? Fuck that shit...

**BVF** · 05-10-2004, 12:24 PM

if you can't email yahoo and hotmail AND MSN, who you gonna spam? AOL? I think not.

**strobi** · 05-10-2004, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Strife
It wasn't long ago that they announced that they would be paying $1 per email...that never happened. Now their only paying $0.50? Fuck that shit...

Indeed was hoping for that 1$/mail too... they convert awesome when you use your own advertisement and remote box.

**candyflip** · 05-10-2004, 12:25 PM

They must have a pretty shit mailing setup. I know plenty of people who have no problem getting email into Hotmail, Yahoo or MSN.

**KMR Stitch** · 05-10-2004, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by candyflip
They must have a pretty shit mailing setup. I know plenty of people who have no problem getting email into Hotmail, Yahoo or MSN.

Costs money to whitelist.

**SykkBoy** · 05-10-2004, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
Costs money to whitelist.

yup, a lot of money

**strobi** · 05-10-2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by candyflip
They must have a pretty shit mailing setup. I know plenty of people who have no problem getting email into Hotmail, Yahoo or MSN.

jep... but getting on those whitelists is HARD. Because of the adult nature I presume...

**detoxed** · 05-10-2004, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
Costs money to whitelist.

takes a phonecall usually

**strobi** · 05-10-2004, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by detoxed
takes a phonecall usually

that's it? Shoodend be to hard then for epiccash to mail hotmail...

**DreamCumTrue** · 05-10-2004, 12:34 PM

i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well

**strobi** · 05-10-2004, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well

the truth?

**RicardoB** · 05-10-2004, 01:35 PM

Did Acacia tak eto big a cut?

**nathan_f** · 05-10-2004, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well

you just trolling? if you couldnt say anything, then you've already said too much.

**Tuga** · 05-10-2004, 01:41 PM

Shit, I loved the remote boxes

**JamesK** · 05-10-2004, 01:43 PM

**bigdog** · 05-11-2004, 02:25 AM

hey where are the epiccash board spammers at

**DatingGold** · 05-11-2004, 02:27 AM

microsoft is gonna charge a pretty peeny to be on the whitelist soon

**Mr. Marks** · 05-11-2004, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by BVF
if you can't email yahoo and hotmail AND MSN, who you gonna spam? AOL? I think not.

Yep.

NOT a good idea to mail AOL cuz those mofos SUE!

**EviLGuY** · 05-11-2004, 03:07 AM

Sounds like a warning sign to me. I stopped using their webmaster programs about a month or so ago anyways.

**goBigtime** · 05-11-2004, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by KMR Stitch
Costs money to whitelist.

Hmmm I would think you could attack them legally on that one.

Their clients opt'd to receive your newsletters.

That's nuts if they charge to whitelist responsible mailers - adult or not.

**strobi** · 05-11-2004, 03:20 AM

Originally posted by papichulo
Yep.

NOT a good idea to mail AOL cuz those mofos SUE!

why shood they?

**VideoVoyeur** · 05-11-2004, 03:22 AM

Originally posted by DreamCumTrue
i wish i could tell everyone the truth about epic cash...oh well

This is what he ment.

In reality, they dopnt pay you anything for your email addresses.

They have setup affiliate accounts with places like Hogs Cash, Gamma Cash, CE and about a half dozen other email address places.

They send email lists daily to them to be checked at a set time. If they dont have the email address already in the database they get a check from whichever email site it is.

IE: they get 5,000 addresses, they send all 5k to all the email places they are signed up for,

Gamma Cash doesnt have 2,000 of them, the other 3k they do, they are dumped, and Epic is paid for the 2k.

CE has 4k of the emails, they are dumped, they pay for the 1k

and so on and so forth.

That is why they had to cut prices, they ended up losing more money then you can realize, and it happens all the time with email places.

If you have ever Tried Hawgs cash emailer, I have. Sign up for one as a surfer, and within 2 days you will be getting no less then 30 emails from DIFFERENT emailers including Gamma CE and other big names.

It's an old business model, it will die off one day.

**goBigtime** · 05-11-2004, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by goBigtime
Hmmm I would think you could attack them legally on that one.

Their clients opt'd to receive your newsletters.

That's nuts if they charge to whitelist responsible mailers - adult or not.

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/05/05...id=126&tid=187

I guess they are actually doing it. Lol.. that's crazy.

I didn't investigate those links much... but I wonder if you have to bring your own CAN-SPAM compliant list, or if MSN/Hotmail allows you to mail as many of their people as you can afford and be CAN-SPAM compliant by going in under their wing..... ie "If you use Hotmail, you agree to be spammed by us and our affiliates, if you don't like it.. then upgrade to a paid Hotmail account"..... something like that?

**VideoVoyeur** · 05-11-2004, 03:25 AM

MSN wants a $20,000 bond to be on the list.

**VideoVoyeur** · 05-11-2004, 03:28 AM

Quit ICQing me to ask me how it works, no I wont sell you the script.

**FabianC** · 05-11-2004, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
This is what he ment.

If you have ever Tried Hawgs cash emailer, I have. Sign up for one as a surfer, and within 2 days you will be getting no less then 30 emails from DIFFERENT emailers including Gamma CE and other big names.

It's an old business model, it will die off one day.

Bullshit, learn your facts before you speak. I know for a FACT CE doesn't do this

**VideoVoyeur** · 05-11-2004, 03:31 AM

And after 6 years of doing this, I know they do.
Sign up at any hawgs cash emailer and use a hotmail or yahoo account, I guarantee you within 2 days you will get emails.

Think im full of crap eh? try it once.

**FabianC** · 05-11-2004, 03:38 AM

Originally posted by VideoVoyeur
And after 6 years of doing this, I know they do.
Sign up at any hawgs cash emailer and use a hotmail or yahoo account, I guarantee you within 2 days you will get emails.

Think im full of crap eh? try it once.

I'm talking about receiving CE emails without signing up directly using any of CE's optin methods

**flashfire** · 05-11-2004, 03:52 AM

I was waiting for the $1 as announced...50 cents just doesnt cut it

**bigdog** · 05-11-2004, 04:02 AM

i wonder if any other email programs will be lowering payouts

epiccash stops paying 0.75$/mail

epiccash stops paying 0.75$/mail

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