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  • doober
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2003
    • 6984

    #51
    lest not jump the gun Ray, we still need to find out if they will process cards out of North America or else we are all just spinning our wheels



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    • Ray@TastyDollars
      • May 2002
      • 6797

      #52
      Originally posted by doober
      lest not jump the gun Ray, we still need to find out if they will process cards out of North America or else we are all just spinning our wheels



      True.

      What im excited about is if they can do it why cant CCbill or Ibill expand to Canada and do the same? That would be great.

      Ray

      ps. I havent forgot about our power lunch. Been having some minor problems with my baby girl the past couple weeks(nothing serious). I should be available by the end of the month.

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      • pornstar2pac
        Omaha Hi/Lo
        • Nov 2003
        • 17380

        #53
        Originally posted by MaskedMan
        Huh? You could at least try to be close when you make up stuff.
        40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?
        Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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        • Bell
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2001
          • 298

          #54
          GiGi (and others)

          I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
          (ask for Mitchor Karen)


          GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net
          so I feel a *special* need to protect you
          - - p- go with NetBilling.com

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          • xxxdesign-net
            My hips don't lie
            • Nov 2002
            • 10129

            #55
            Would surely be awesome if they can process cards beyond North America... I have all the trouble in the world finding a "resident agent" in the states.. willing to give out his personal info to ccbill....
            Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 05-10-2004, 05:40 PM.

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            • hershie
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2002
              • 4642

              #56
              Originally posted by pornstar2pac
              40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?
              Note To Self: For the love of god, remember never to do business with this guy.

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              • Suckitbitch
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 278

                #57
                Originally posted by hershie
                That's about as solid a backing as you could hope for.

                Well no actually, get a few chargebacks and you are done. The Moneris gateway isn't exactly tailored to the kind of fraud you would get in online adult transactions either.

                Just ask one of their sales clowns about excessive chargebacks for NON adult transactions, let alone adult.

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                • hershie
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 4642

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Suckitbitch
                  Well no actually, get a few chargebacks and you are done. The Moneris gateway isn't exactly tailored to the kind of fraud you would get in online adult transactions either.

                  Just ask one of their sales clowns about excessive chargebacks for NON adult transactions, let alone adult.
                  While that may be the case, that's a policy/operational issue that has nothing to do with how solid a company is behind this operation, especially compared to some of the fly-by-nights we have seen and I have personally been burned by.

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                  • s0laris2
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 317

                    #59
                    hmm that woulf be cool to have moneris processing adult..

                    Only prob guys is you will have to pay 7% gst from all the sales..

                    I used to process adult with Moneris years ago before they stopped it.

                    I have letters from Revenu canada stating too that all internet sales with no signature, etc will be subject to 7% gst.


                    I dont know if that will change now.. but it will be a nightmare to manage!

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                    • StuartD
                      Sofa King Band
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 29903

                      #60
                      Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                      40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?
                      what's truly scary is that you're being serious.
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                      • WiredGuy
                        Pounding Googlebot
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 34515

                        #61
                        Originally posted by s0laris2
                        hmm that woulf be cool to have moneris processing adult..

                        Only prob guys is you will have to pay 7% gst from all the sales..

                        I used to process adult with Moneris years ago before they stopped it.

                        I have letters from Revenu canada stating too that all internet sales with no signature, etc will be subject to 7% gst.


                        I dont know if that will change now.. but it will be a nightmare to manage!


                        CCRA are such nice people. They have me on their speed dial
                        WG
                        I play with Google.

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                        • BradM
                          Confirmed User
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 3397

                          #62
                          Moneris is a good company.... they do all the major debit and cc transactions up here

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                          • Suckitbitch
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 278

                            #63
                            Originally posted by hershie
                            While that may be the case, that's a policy/operational issue that has nothing to do with how solid a company is behind this operation, especially compared to some of the fly-by-nights we have seen and I have personally been burned by.

                            Monopolistic charter banks in Canada are about as solid as it gets from that standpoint. They also couldn't care less if they get your business or not and can change their minds at any second and decide to stop processing adult transactions.

                            And like the other guy says... don't forget to charge GST

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                            • pornstar2pac
                              Omaha Hi/Lo
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 17380

                              #64
                              Originally posted by MaskedMan
                              what's truly scary is that you're being serious.

                              that's what you want people to think. give them credit, their not dumb
                              Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                              • the indigo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2001
                                • 2016

                                #65
                                Originally posted by notjoe
                                Actually, its about .65 cents US

                                Thank god the rates are getting back to something decent..i'm tied of this 1USD = 1.28 CAd shit
                                .65 cents? That was 2 years ago.

                                It's 71.69 as of today... dropped from 76 cents a few months back.
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                                • monica
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Feb 2004
                                  • 220

                                  #66
                                  wow... I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for a Candian processor that doesn't do all of their processing overseas... definitely worth looking into.
                                  monica AT monicaweb DOT net

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                                  • NETbilling
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 8598

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by the indigo
                                    What do you mean by "North American Credit Cards Only"? A customer from Europe, using his Visa or Mastercard would not be able to join the site?

                                    Since you already work, I guess that integration of Moneris Canada would be easily done with Netbilling?
                                    We are already integrated with Moneris' banking solutions. Does that answer your question or am I missing something.

                                    Mitch


                                    Mitch Farber
                                    CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                    Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                    Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                    • NETbilling
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 8598

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Bell
                                      GiGi (and others)

                                      I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
                                      (ask for Mitch or Karen)

                                      GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net
                                      so I feel a *special* need to protect you
                                      - - p- go with NetBilling.com

                                      ~Bell
                                      Thanks for the kind words Bell.

                                      Mitch


                                      Mitch Farber
                                      CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                      Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                      Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                      • Martin
                                        "Assassins"
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 17274

                                        #69

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                                        • gigi
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 691

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by Bell
                                          GiGi (and others)

                                          I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
                                          (ask for Mitchor Karen)


                                          GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net
                                          so I feel a *special* need to protect you
                                          - - p- go with NetBilling.com

                                          ~Bell
                                          Thanks Bell... *huggs*

                                          Mitch...I'll be contacting you in a day or so...just have to organize myself here. ;)
                                          eMail
                                          ICQ: 32862272

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                                          • doober
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 6984

                                            #71
                                            So anyome confirm that Credit card info about only being able to process Nort American Credit cards?

                                            What about cb ratios?

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                                            • NETbilling
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 8598

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by gigi
                                              Thanks Bell... *huggs*

                                              Mitch...I'll be contacting you in a day or so...just have to organize myself here. ;)
                                              Sounds great!

                                              Mitch


                                              Mitch Farber
                                              CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                              Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                              Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                              • Indeed
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 1892

                                                #73
                                                hmm interesting

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                                                • L0stMind
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 1681

                                                  #74
                                                  I use moneris for nonadult.

                                                  Very little problems with chargebacks... We have only had 2 in the past 3 years...

                                                  Will be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes...

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                                                  • vas
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                    • 562

                                                    #75
                                                    does that mean you can process for canadian webmasters? and help us get setup with the merch?

                                                    Originally posted by netbilling
                                                    Sounds great!

                                                    Mitch
                                                    icq: 375956791

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                                                    • xxxdesign-net
                                                      My hips don't lie
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 10129

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by L0stMind
                                                      I use moneris for nonadult.

                                                      Very little problems with chargebacks... We have only had 2 in the past 3 years...

                                                      Will be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes...
                                                      can you accept transaction outside of North america?

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                                                      • L0stMind
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 1681

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                        can you accept transaction outside of North america?
                                                        With my regular merchant account I can accept cards from anywhere...

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                                                        • NETbilling
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 8598

                                                          #78
                                                          ok - Here is the scoop

                                                          I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

                                                          Thanks, Mitch


                                                          Mitch Farber
                                                          CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                          Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                          Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                          • CrazyAL
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 205

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by netbilling
                                                            ok - Here is the scoop

                                                            I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

                                                            Thanks, Mitch
                                                            Groovy

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                                                            • webmaster x
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 4400

                                                              #80
                                                              Moneris is an excellent company!
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                                                              • StRoGE
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                • 1713

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by netbilling
                                                                ok - Here is the scoop

                                                                I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

                                                                Thanks, Mitch
                                                                Excellent news! Two for Moneris and Netbilling!
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                                                                • Alex Xe

                                                                  #82
                                                                  3.9% only...fuck...good offer.

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                                                                  • Paul Waters
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 4402

                                                                    #83
                                                                    What is 5967 account?



                                                                    Paul

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                                                                    • sperbonzo
                                                                      I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 9750

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Waters
                                                                      What is 5967 account?

                                                                      5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account
                                                                      Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                                      [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

                                                                      ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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                                                                      • Martin
                                                                        "Assassins"
                                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                                        • 17274

                                                                        #85
                                                                        This would be sweet. *Watching with interest*

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                                                                        • McKracken
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 703

                                                                          #86
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                                                                          • CrazyAL
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 205

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by McKracken
                                                                            worth a bump!

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                                                                            • monica
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                              • 220

                                                                              #88
                                                                              I am definitely interested in hearing how this goes...
                                                                              monica AT monicaweb DOT net

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                                                                              • DatingGold
                                                                                $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                                                                                • Feb 2003
                                                                                • 13185

                                                                                #89
                                                                                even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

                                                                                but it sounds like they do.

                                                                                But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?
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                                                                                • NETbilling
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                                                  • 8598

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by DatingGold
                                                                                  even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

                                                                                  but it sounds like they do.

                                                                                  But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?
                                                                                  Alan,

                                                                                  You just need to be incorporated or live in the US or Canada. Contact me Monday and I will have more info.

                                                                                  Mitch


                                                                                  Mitch Farber
                                                                                  CEO - NETbilling, Inc.
                                                                                  Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456
                                                                                  Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

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                                                                                  • Braincash Fred
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                    • 1589

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Mitch .. do you have an icq number?

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                                                                                    • Head
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 8278

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      hope it works!!

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                                                                                      • notjoe
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • May 2002
                                                                                        • 5599

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

                                                                                        I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

                                                                                        Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

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                                                                                        • DatingGold
                                                                                          $6 PER EMAIL JOiN
                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                          • 13185

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by notjoe
                                                                                          Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

                                                                                          I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

                                                                                          Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.
                                                                                          yeah I think Mitch got wind of this after reading your thread.. thats why they need until Monday.

                                                                                          cause they never mentioned they had it before.

                                                                                          Mitch is a good guy though
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                                                                                          • psyko514
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                                                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                                                            • 22366

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by sperbonzo
                                                                                            5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account
                                                                                            not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

                                                                                            all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

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                                                                                            • CoolE
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                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 451

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by psyko514
                                                                                              CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!
                                                                                              I'll say. Corvette, are you out there? Can you comment?

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                                                                                              • CrazyAL
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Jun 2003
                                                                                                • 205

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by psyko514
                                                                                                not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

                                                                                                all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

                                                                                                CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!
                                                                                                I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.

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                                                                                                • hershie
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                  • 4642

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by CrazyAL
                                                                                                  I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.
                                                                                                  I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.

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                                                                                                  • psyko514
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                                                                                                    • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by hershie
                                                                                                    I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.
                                                                                                    not only that, but there were looking for people who'd be processing 10s of thousands of dollars of transactions monthly.

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                                                                                                    • CrazyAL
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                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      So any news? anyone setup yet?

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