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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
As far as most of the other stuff goes , its board fodder not facts. If i believed everything people made allegations of , then everyone would be guilty of something.
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Generally I subscribe to that way of thinking, but I also believe that when there is enough smoke there is generally a fire. I'm guessing you must have not been active on gfy when all the designers and models were coming forward with accusations of non payment. Many of them were well respected gfy'ers and in most cases Jeff didn't deny that he owed them. It became obvious from their stories that Jeff had followed a similar pattern of excuses with all of them. Claiming bank errors, lost checks in the mail, messed up routing numbers, nsf checks and tons of other excuses all in an attempt to delay payment for services rendered. I never got the impression that Jeff was maliciously trying to defraud, it just always appeared that he had very poor cash mgt and was always trying to rob peter to pay paul to stay afloat.
Smokey you really don't need specific evidence as you suggest because Jeff admitted to much of this when he made is board comeback a few months after things blew over on the ccbill issue. Even though I'd never do biz with Jeff, I do commend him for sticking around under his original name and attempting to restart his biz without hiding. Now that Jeff no longer has any affiliation with Perfection Cash, it might be best for Jeff to change his board name so that he doesn't have to keep responding when threads like this popup.
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