sad is, that even if he would start a thread now that he is looking for people to do biz with, many people would jump on the offer...
Lensman, you should have received an IPOD today.
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Originally posted by andrej_NDCsad is, that even if he would start a thread now that he is looking for people to do biz with, many people would jump on the offer...
I think Jeff may have burned his last bridge around here

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This thread just does not add up.
I know Jeff and we have talked about the business arrangement he has with Pornkings. Correct me if I am wrong, but dosent Pornkings own half of Jeff's revshare program? And isnt Pornkings paying all the operational expenses for Perfection Cash? Thats what I understood anyways.
It was also my understanding that Jeff just draws a salary from Pornkings to market Perfection Cash and shoot content and that 50% of the operational budget comes out of Perfection Cash. Jeff never see's the money other then his salary. So, if that is the case, Pornkings would have bought this ipod then deducted 50% of its cost from the Perfection Cash operation budget.
So if thats the case, why isnt Pornkings being called out on this? Seems like something they should have handled and just charged 50% of the ipod cost against Jeffs revshare operations budget.
I do know that Jeff only gets a salary.
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Why Should PornKings pay for Jeffs Promises????Originally posted by bangmanThis thread just does not add up.
I know Jeff and we have talked about the business arrangement he has with Pornkings. Correct me if I am wrong, but dosent Pornkings own half of Jeff's revshare program? And isnt Pornkings paying all the operational expenses for Perfection Cash? Thats what I understood anyways.
It was also my understanding that Jeff just draws a salary from Pornkings to market Perfection Cash and shoot content and that 50% of the operational budget comes out of Perfection Cash. Jeff never see's the money other then his salary. So, if that is the case, Pornkings would have bought this ipod then deducted 50% of its cost from the Perfection Cash operation budget.
So if thats the case, why isnt Pornkings being called out on this? Seems like something they should have handled and just charged 50% of the ipod cost against Jeffs revshare operations budget.
I do know that Jeff only gets a salary.


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Well I guess it comes down to how the company is run. Wasnt there a huge banner here on GFY or something about this contest? I seem to recall one. If so I guess just see or find out who paid for the banner spot. If Jeff paid for the banner out of his own money without Pornkings knowledge of theOriginally posted by JFKWhy Should PornKings pay for Jeffs Promises????
contest then yes, Jeff would be responsible in my mind.
But, if Pornkings paid for the banner the contest must have come out of the operational budget leaving Pornkings responsible for buying the ipods then deducting the cost from the Perfection Cash operational expenses. Just can't
see how in the world this is on Jeff.
It's been made clear several times that Jeff has nothing to do with the money
and he is not paying the bills. If that's indeed the case then Pornkings
should have bought the ipod and charged it against Perfection Cash. That only seems logical. I just can't see holding Jeff responsible for this if in fact he does not have anything to do with the finances.
Just seems to me that there are a couple of you are just out for blood. None of this adds up when looking to point fingers at Jeff. Find out who paid for the banner spot and if Pornkings knew there was a contest running. If Pornkings paid for the banner spot then they were aware of the contest making them resposible for at least half of the cost of the contest. Again, it is my understanding that Jeff has nothing to do with the money.
I could be wrong, but if I were running a partnership like they have. That's how I would do it.
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if he wouldnt be responsible for it, he would just post here to explain...Originally posted by bangmanWell I guess it comes down to how the company is run. Wasnt there a huge banner here on GFY or something about this contest? I seem to recall one. If so I guess just see or find out who paid for the banner spot. If Jeff paid for the banner out of his own money without Pornkings knowledge of the
contest then yes, Jeff would be responsible in my mind.
But, if Pornkings paid for the banner the contest must have come out of the operational budget leaving Pornkings responsible for buying the ipods then deducting the cost from the Perfection Cash operational expenses. Just can't
see how in the world this is on Jeff.
It's been made clear several times that Jeff has nothing to do with the money
and he is not paying the bills. If that's indeed the case then Pornkings
should have bought the ipod and charged it against Perfection Cash. That only seems logical. I just can't see holding Jeff responsible for this if in fact he does not have anything to do with the finances.
Just seems to me that there are a couple of you are just out for blood. None of this adds up when looking to point fingers at Jeff. Find out who paid for the banner spot and if Pornkings knew there was a contest running. If Pornkings paid for the banner spot then they were aware of the contest making them resposible for at least half of the cost of the contest. Again, it is my understanding that Jeff has nothing to do with the money.
I could be wrong, but if I were running a partnership like they have. That's how I would do it.

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... that's right, it's prolly all lensman's fault.Originally posted by bangmanI just can't see holding Jeff responsible for this if in fact he does not have anything to do with the finances.
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Originally posted by bangmanWell I guess it comes down to how the company is run. Wasnt there a huge banner here on GFY or something about this contest? I seem to recall one. If so I guess just see or find out who paid for the banner spot. If Jeff paid for the banner out of his own money without Pornkings knowledge of the
contest then yes, Jeff would be responsible in my mind.
But, if Pornkings paid for the banner the contest must have come out of the operational budget leaving Pornkings responsible for buying the ipods then deducting the cost from the Perfection Cash operational expenses. Just can't
see how in the world this is on Jeff.
It's been made clear several times that Jeff has nothing to do with the money
and he is not paying the bills. If that's indeed the case then Pornkings
should have bought the ipod and charged it against Perfection Cash. That only seems logical. I just can't see holding Jeff responsible for this if in fact he does not have anything to do with the finances.
Just seems to me that there are a couple of you are just out for blood. None of this adds up when looking to point fingers at Jeff. Find out who paid for the banner spot and if Pornkings knew there was a contest running. If Pornkings paid for the banner spot then they were aware of the contest making them resposible for at least half of the cost of the contest. Again, it is my understanding that Jeff has nothing to do with the money.
I could be wrong, but if I were running a partnership like they have. That's how I would do it.

Bangman,
While I am sure your intentions are noble and good, I would kindly ask you to not presume to know "all" the details involved in any arrangements between Perfection Cash and Pornkings.com or this contest. I know I have never spoken with you in regards to business, so I would have to assume your information is derived from snipets of posts and or information you have received in speaking with Jeff in regards to his business arangements. Most business arrangements are fairly complex, and in most cases can not be summed up in two paragraphs on a message board. Again, I do appreciate your intentions and I assume they are good ones.
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Well saidOriginally posted by MackBangman,
While I am sure your intentions are noble and good, I would kindly ask you to not presume to know "all" the details involved in any arrangements between Perfection Cash and Pornkings.com or this contest. I know I have never spoken with you in regards to business, so I would have to assume your information is derived from snipets of posts and or information you have received in speaking with Jeff in regards to his business arangements. Most business arrangements are fairly complex, and in most cases can not be summed up in two paragraphs on a message board. Again, I do appreciate your intentions and I assume they are good ones.
I have recently been made aware of this issue, I will investigate it and handle it in an appropriate fashion.

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Sure explains why he has not been in this thread to explain himself if you ask me. Jeff has always defended himself so its curious why he has been so silent in this thread. The last thing I would do is call out the company that puts food on my table and I can't imagine Jeff being any different.Originally posted by andrej_NDCif he wouldnt be responsible for it, he would just post here to explain...
All I know is what I posted above. If I am wrong I'm sure someone will point it out.
And no, it's clearly not Lensmans fualt, but there is clearly more to this then what can or will be presented.
Just my opinion on this situation
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Originally posted by MackBangman,
While I am sure your intentions are noble and good, I would kindly ask you to not presume to know "all" the details involved in any arrangements between Perfection Cash and Pornkings.com or this contest. I know I have never spoken with you in regards to business, so I would have to assume your information is derived from snipets of posts and or information you have received in speaking with Jeff in regards to his business arangements. Most business arrangements are fairly complex, and in most cases can not be summed up in two paragraphs on a message board. Again, I do appreciate your intentions and I assume they are good ones.
I have recently been made aware of this issue, I will investigate it and handle it in an appropriate fashion.
Very well said Dave. Lensman certainly will receive the Ipod if you are handling it.
It's shame how often people presume to know the ins and outs when clearly they are not involved, this isnt to imply it is surprising.Comment
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Originally posted by MackBangman,
While I am sure your intentions are noble and good, I would kindly ask you to not presume to know "all" the details involved in any arrangements between Perfection Cash and Pornkings.com or this contest. I know I have never spoken with you in regards to business, so I would have to assume your information is derived from snipets of posts and or information you have received in speaking with Jeff in regards to his business arangements. Most business arrangements are fairly complex, and in most cases can not be summed up in two paragraphs on a message board. Again, I do appreciate your intentions and I assume they are good ones.
I have recently been made aware of this issue, I will investigate it and handle it in an appropriate fashion.
Well said dave. I still don't know the who deal...but it's none of our business how you guys run yours. If you guys owe somebody something... I am sure it will get taken care of as promised!!"Comment
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LOLJust his luck. The owner of gfy wins the ipod/contest. I'm not up on the prices but they can't be much more than five hundred?
this reminds of when that girl fucked up the national anthem in front of everyone . At least that had a happy ending ..
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Originally posted by MackBangman,
While I am sure your intentions are noble and good, I would kindly ask you to not presume to know "all" the details involved in any arrangements between Perfection Cash and Pornkings.com or this contest. I know I have never spoken with you in regards to business, so I would have to assume your information is derived from snipets of posts and or information you have received in speaking with Jeff in regards to his business arangements. Most business arrangements are fairly complex, and in most cases can not be summed up in two paragraphs on a message board. Again, I do appreciate your intentions and I assume they are good ones.
I have recently been made aware of this issue, I will investigate it and handle it in an appropriate fashion.
I know you can take of this manner. stay gold
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Takes at least a year or 2....Originally posted by LensmanJeff is a chronic liar. Still waiting...
Ask Mike AI or Sharky.Assclown Bob Rice wants to BANG your credit card!"I am putting the bastards of this world on notice; greed and corruption will always be met with "a voice made of ink and rage."All the information above is my personal opinion.Comment
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Originally posted by LensmanJeff is a chronic liar. Still waiting...
wow, we need an owned pic for this one
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Originally posted by LensmanJeff is a chronic liar. Still waiting...

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... no way, he is only suffering from muenchhausen syndrom.Originally posted by LensmanJeff is a chronic liar. Still waiting...
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And people wonder why I didn't took the 5 paysites order he made me few month ago
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He's basically proven that he is a liar to everyone on this board, including the owner of the board. His only purpose for being here was to promote the perfectioncash program. I would say he owned himself pretty good.Originally posted by JayJaySorry, I Really Don't see how this is Owned?Comment
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no, not really.Originally posted by psyko514Really? I'm not.Comment
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
It was sent as promised... doubt it would arrive today though.
No one scammed anyone. He won a contest.. he get gets the prize.
You guys are amasing.

2 weeks since that post. I guess it takes a while for FedEx. Still waiting....Comment
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That damn dishonest FedEx yeah that's it...Comment
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Originally posted by Lensman2 weeks since that post. I guess it takes a while for FedEx. Still waiting....
it's that new 14 day $1.00 express service he got for you.
should be at your front door today
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With all respect if you make an order your obliged to pay it regardless of your feeling toward someone.. If you dont then your just playing the same game aren't you ?Originally posted by QuaSheAnd people wonder why I didn't took the 5 paysites order he made me few month ago
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Im sure Quashe is the one who should make the 5 paysites, but he didnt accept the job offer from Jeff.Originally posted by SmokeyTheBearWith all respect if you make an order your obliged to pay it regardless of your feeling toward someone.. If you dont then your just playing the same game aren't you ?Comment
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I think you have it backwards. Jeff attempted to place an order, QuaShe didn't accept. I think Jeff dicked him around once before.Originally posted by SmokeyTheBearWith all respect if you make an order your obliged to pay it regardless of your feeling toward someone.. If you dont then your just playing the same game aren't you ?
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Thanks for the sign of support. Its wonderful.. thank you.Originally posted by SmokeyTheBearWith all respect if you make an order your obliged to pay it regardless of your feeling toward someone.. If you dont then your just playing the same game aren't you ?
IBILL still has ads on gfy and they ripped off thousands of people.
Crazy the he turned down the work. Its pornkings he turned down... not me. Oh well... Ryan from adultwebgraphics got all of them as well as the last one that was done. About 6k in design work... all paid in full.SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.Comment
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Originally posted by PerfectionGirlsThanks for the sign of support. Its wonderful.. thank you.
Crazy the he turned down the work. Its pornkings he turned down... not me. Oh well... Ryan from adultwebgraphics got all of them as well as the last one that was done. About 6k in design work... all paid in full.
Actually, this is not entirely true. Quashe and I had discussed doing some design work for some of the PC sites. Quashe expressed his feelings and reservations on the matter. we talked about the situation , He agreed to do the designs for Pornkings if we would like him to. By the time we had this conversation, the sites were ordered from another designer.Comment
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fedex gives tracking ID's ... get jeff to post that ID here ... oh hang on ...that's impossible !!!Originally posted by Lensman2 weeks since that post. I guess it takes a while for FedEx. Still waiting....
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Originally posted by Nicklessat this point i just feel sorry about anyone promoting perfectiongirls AND pornkings too for doing a really shitty deal buying/supporting a scam operation.
Is that what you really think happened? You feel Pornkings scammed somebody by making a purchase of another company?? Our affiliates are paid on time, I don't recall anytime since this aquisition a PerfectionCash affiliate complaining they haven't been paid. So there really isn't any reason to feel "sorry" for any of our affiliates on a financial level.
This thread is in regards to a contest prize. I have addressed that issue in an earlier post and plan to stick to my word as always.
If you feel Pornkings has wronged you in some way I'd love for you to contact me so I might have the oppurtunity to try and repair that relationship.
If You feel perfectioncash has wronged you Please contact me.
But if this is a personal issue with myself or any other individual I don't know how much help or comfort I can offer you.
Otherwise It would appear you would prefer I purchase my stocks high and sell them low.Comment
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The sad thing is you had to "fix the issue" - when jeff posted 2 weeks ago it was already sent. Jeff is a scammer, and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near PerfectionCash, or GFY for that matter. He'll never learn. He posted in this thread on Page 3, but didn't address the fact that he didn't send Lens the prize, even after he claims he did.Originally posted by MackIs that what you really think happened? You feel Pornkings scammed somebody by making a purchase of another company?? Our affiliates are paid on time, I don't recall anytime since this aquisition a PerfectionCash affiliate complaining they haven't been paid. So there really isn't any reason to feel "sorry" for any of our affiliates on a financial level.
This thread is in regards to a contest prize. I have addressed that issue in an earlier post and plan to stick to my word as always.
If you feel Pornkings has wronged you in some way I'd love for you to contact me so I might have the oppurtunity to try and repair that relationship.
If You feel perfectioncash has wronged you Please contact me.
But if this is a personal issue with myself or any other individual I don't know how much help or comfort I can offer you.
Otherwise It would appear you would prefer I purchase my stocks high and sell them low.
He is a SCAMMER. Always will be. You fixed a 10" gash, with a bandaid, if all you did was deliver lens his prize.
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