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  • davethetruth
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    • Jan 2004
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    #101
    OK, you two guys have to start making a point instead of pasting whole articles.

    What's your point?

    There is plenty of stuff in both those articles that contradicts your statements so far.

    "In the looting that followed the regime?s collapse, last April, the huge prison complex, by then deserted, was stripped of everything that could be removed, including doors, hahahahahahas, and bricks. The coalition authorities had the floors tiled, cells cleaned and repaired, and toilets, showers, and a new medical center added."

    Sounds pretty good to me. The US was even affraid that they would want to stay in the prisons.

    And that other article is an interview with a pissed off Iraqi. There's no way our military is worse then Saddam.
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      • xenophobic
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        • Mar 2004
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        #102
        Originally posted by davethetruth
        OK, you two guys have to start making a point instead of pasting whole articles.

        What's your point?

        There is plenty of stuff in both those articles that contradicts your statements so far.

        "In the looting that followed the regime?s collapse, last April, the huge prison complex, by then deserted, was stripped of everything that could be removed, including doors, hahahahahahas, and bricks. The coalition authorities had the floors tiled, cells cleaned and repaired, and toilets, showers, and a new medical center added."

        Sounds pretty good to me. The US was even affraid that they would want to stay in the prisons.

        And that other article is an interview with a pissed off Iraqi. There's no way our military is worse then Saddam.
        That wasn't the only thing that got stripped, you removed the portion that said <B>Abu Ghraib was now a U.S. military prison.</B>

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          • davethetruth
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            #103
            So what? Does that mean that they don't have Iraqi regulated jails with little US interferrence?
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              • davethetruth
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                • Jan 2004
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                #104
                Originally posted by davethetruth
                ** ding ding ding! **

                I really don't care about any of this shit, I just want to see my two cousins, my best friend's brother and my friend's husband return safely.

                This is the only truthful opinion I have, I could argue any side of this war if I was bored, lol.
                Remember this? If I started a thread that was titled "kill whitey" would you argue against me there too?
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                  • xenophobic
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                    • Mar 2004
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                    #105
                    Originally posted by davethetruth
                    So what? Does that mean that they don't have Iraqi regulated jails with little US interferrence?
                    Under what authority does the U.S hold Iraqi civilians under military detention? if that is the case P.O.W's and insurgents should be held in a seperate jail, civilans detained for theft/curfew violations/etc. should be in another that is RAN by Iraqi's, and policed by Iraqi guards.

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                      • Roger
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3181
                        #106
                        Originally posted by davethetruth
                        And that other article is an interview with a pissed off Iraqi. There's no way our military is worse then Saddam.
                        Maybe not for you but for muslims it is, proving that those soldiers where acting out orders given to them by a civilian contractor who was quite familiar with the culture.

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                          • davethetruth
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                            • Jan 2004
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                            #107
                            Originally posted by xenophobic
                            Under what authority does the U.S hold Iraqi civilians under military detention? if that is the case P.O.W's and insurgents should be held in a seperate jail, civilans detained for theft/curfew violations/etc. should be in another that is RAN by Iraqi's, and policed by Iraqi guards.
                            You're right, they should. Things are such a mess over there though.
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                              • davethetruth
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                                #108
                                Originally posted by davethetruth
                                Let me just get this str8:

                                I don't agree with this war!

                                I don't agree with Bush!

                                I'll be voting democrat this November!


                                The point here is if they have to do this to end this horrible fucking war then who gives a fuck!
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                                  • jimmyf
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                                    • Feb 2001
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                                    #109
                                    Originally posted by psyko514
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                                      • Centurion
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                                        • Dec 2002
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                                        #110
                                        Originally posted by davethetruth
                                        Oh fuckin no... they got a few POW naked, oowww.


                                        Big fucking deal!
                                        No big deal? ONLY naked? How about the 12 Iraqis murdered while in prison that are officially being investigated by the Pentagon now? NO BIG DEAL EITHER? The pictures were JUST the tip of the iceberg.

                                        And then, there are NO pictures of a lot of things that happened to the prisoners that DID eqivocate with what Saddam did to his prisoners also. That's why the lead commander of CIA intelligence in Iraq is under investigation.

                                        Just a few pictures..no big deal. It's amazing how INTENSE the tunnel vision is by a few Americans.

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                                          • Centurion
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                                            • Dec 2002
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                                            #111
                                            Originally posted by davethetruth
                                            This was a US civilian:




                                            This is an opposition soldier:
                                            As IF this is the WORST thing that has happened to Iraqi prisoners. You just don't get it do you?

                                            But then again, Bush & cronies don't get it either. You stand in truly BAD company.

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                                              • davethetruth
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                                                #112
                                                Originally posted by Centurion
                                                No big deal? ONLY naked? How about the 12 Iraqis murdered while in prison that are officially being investigated by the Pentagon now? NO BIG DEAL EITHER? The pictures were JUST the tip of the iceberg.

                                                And then, there are NO pictures of a lot of things that happened to the prisoners that DID eqivocate with what Saddam did to his prisoners also. That's why the lead commander of CIA intelligence in Iraq is under investigation.

                                                Just a few pictures..no big deal. It's amazing how INTENSE the tunnel vision is by a few Americans.
                                                You're right, it was the tip of the iceburg. I read that UK soldiers are having charges brought against them too.

                                                Time to move to Canada.

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                                                  • soldierdog
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                                                    • Jan 2004
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                                                    #113
                                                    The fact that this discussion is happening, that this has been exposed to the world and that there will be repercussions proves that things are already better than they were under Saddam.

                                                    Case in point: I've worked with several Iraqi's that defected during the 1st Gulf War. They stated that people dissapeared all the time and if you asked about it, so did you. They also said that Saddam's men would walk up and tell you to demonstrate, if you did not demonstrate, you dissapeared. Those are just a couple of examples from a massive pile.

                                                    A few military morons should not define the whole and most everyone should be able to understand this unless of course they have an agenda that does not include common sense. Even if it were passed down from the contractors or military intelligence, because the system is working correctly and these institutions and people are being dealt with.

                                                    Rhetoric about the U.S. Military being worse than Saddam is just plain nonsense.

                                                    When the tailgate drops, the bullshit stops

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                                                      • StuartD
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                                                        • Jul 2002
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                                                        #114
                                                        Let's see...

                                                        Saddam had to be removed for treating his people like dogs.

                                                        And now....


                                                        Nah... no comparison, right?
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                                                          • soldierdog
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                                                            • Jan 2004
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                                                            #115
                                                            QUOTE]His one sentence took 30 times the brain power your 3 paragraph waste of space post did. Educate yourself instead of making serious decisions out of misguided hate and fear.[/QUOTE]

                                                            Hey Rich buddy, quick trying to deflect using pseudo psychology, just because you infer I'm stupid or ignorant doesn't make it so dumbass. I neither hate nor fear anyone, unlike most of the people who hate the U.S. or hate this administration and pretend to be intellectuals because they agree with CNN or leftest University Profs.

                                                            If you have something intelligent to add to the conversation then add it or take some pepto bismal for your verbal diarrhea.

                                                            When the tailgate drops, the bullshit stops

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                                                              • Roger
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                                                                • Jul 2003
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                                                                #116
                                                                Originally posted by soldierdog
                                                                The fact that this discussion is happening, that this has been exposed to the world and that there will be repercussions proves that things are already better than they were under Saddam.
                                                                Heuh? It proves nothing. It proves that nowadays Iraqis are being humiliated, taken advantage of and tortured by foreign powers instead. It proves even more that the US government does use torture.

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                                                                  • scoreman
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                                                                    • Nov 2001
                                                                    • 1491
                                                                    #117
                                                                    Originally posted by KRL
                                                                    That's for sure. People just blab on this board without researching facts first.
                                                                    The two homocides did not result in any criminal charges. One was dishonorably discharged and the other was a civilian contractor who just was returned to the USA.

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                                                                      • uno
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                                                                        • Dec 2002
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                                                                        #118
                                                                        Originally posted by Tytan
                                                                        Dude lets put your american ass in Iraq - by the end of the day you'll be captured and KILLED & not stripped & pissed on.
                                                                        I think you missed the point.
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                                                                          • uno
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                                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                                            #119
                                                                            Originally posted by genomega
                                                                            Yes and the US is the only country to ever abide by those rules.

                                                                            You can't fight a pc war and win.
                                                                            When did that happen?
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                                                                              • mahoney
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                                                                                #120
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                                                                                  • uno
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                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                    • 18450
                                                                                    #121
                                                                                    Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                    Please, I think the murder of the civilian security guards was a tragedy, but even they knew the risks, and they took them.

                                                                                    A person should not have to thank anyone for being hauled around the floor on a leash, if the same thing happened to a member of your familiy in a domestic prison, you would be saying to the media "at least he's alive and not in the electric chair!"

                                                                                    It's abusive and abhorrent and there is no justification for either.
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                                                                                      • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                        #122
                                                                                        Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                        Please, I think the murder of the civilian security guards
                                                                                        You mean mercenaries for hire.

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                                                                                          • uno
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                                                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                                                            #123
                                                                                            Originally posted by Cassie
                                                                                            you just made a very good point!

                                                                                            just as soldiers and civilians are aware of the risks and possible outcome of being over there, the same can be said for that country's people.

                                                                                            it's a war and they, like americans, can expect the worst; don't ever be shocked with the outcome of risks taken.
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                                                                                              • xenophobic
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                                                                                                #124
                                                                                                Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                You mean mercenaries for hire.
                                                                                                They were not "mercanaries" they were not part of the army, they were armed security guards for a convoy. less your local bouncer who carries a gun is also a mercenary, or people who protect the stars?

                                                                                                Just because you carry a gun, doesn't make you a Merc.

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                                                                                                  • uno
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                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                    #125
                                                                                                    Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                    Even if you lived under a dictatorship?
                                                                                                    yes.
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                                                                                                      • StuartD
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                                                                                                        #126
                                                                                                        A lot of people in this thread are making me almost as sick as the actions of the soldiers in Iraq (on both sides).
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                                                                                                          • uno
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                                                                                                            • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                            #127
                                                                                                            Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                            Do you think you're smart or something? You make no sense and contradict yourself every other post. I already said earlier in this thread that I was playing the political drama on this board. I could argue your side of the argument 100 times better than you are right now.
                                                                                                            Maybe you should. You aren't doing too well with the side you are on now.
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                                                                                                              • bizmak
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                                                                                                                • Apr 2004
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                                                                                                                #128
                                                                                                                how do you mean ? they are people right?

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                                                                                                                  • Roger
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                                                                                                                    #129
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                    They were not "mercanaries" they were not part of the army, they were armed security guards for a convoy. less your local bouncer who carries a gun is also a mercenary, or people who protect the stars?

                                                                                                                    Just because you carry a gun, doesn't make you a Merc.
                                                                                                                    No they were mercenaries. It just happens that this time there task was to secure a convoy. There job is not always the same, they have many missions. And for the average Iraqis, they're men with guns wearing uniforms.

                                                                                                                    No matter how you put it, those "security guards" are helping one country occupy another, that by itself says quite a lot.

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                                                                                                                      • Syl
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                                                                                                                        • Dec 2003
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                                                                                                                        #130
                                                                                                                        aaah only in America can we talk out of our asses so freely and put down those men and women who risk their lives defending ours and the freedoms granted to us
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                                                                                                                          • jayeff
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                                                                                                                            #131
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by soldierdog
                                                                                                                            The fact that this discussion is happening, that this has been exposed to the world and that there will be repercussions proves that things are already better than they were under Saddam.
                                                                                                                            Not exactly. The reports about these events were classified secret, although there is no national security element and it is against the law to classify hahahahahahahahas as secret to cover crimes. So it doesn't look as if anyone intended this information to emerge. In fact, unless the Red Cross are lying about having warned the US authorities about what was going on in this prison, it doesn't look as if anyone cared much about it at all. Until it all broke in the media...

                                                                                                                            Even the rest is a little hard to support. If you were one of the unfortunates perceived as a threat to Saddam's regime, your life wasn't worth a whole lot. Then again, if you oppose the occupying troops now, you may not be dragged away in the night, but you would have a hard time getting insurance. Thousands of Iraqis have been killed over the last decade by the US and its allies. Most may have died clinically, from a distance, but they are just as dead as those that Saddam murdered.

                                                                                                                            Saddam Hussein was a very unpleasant dictator. But the country wasn't some kind of giant slave camp where everyone lived in perpetual fear. Now all Iraqis are living under military occupation in a country that is still being ripped apart. For the average Iraqi, how much better can it really be, if at all?

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                                                                                                                              • painintheass
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                                                                                                                                • Apr 2004
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                                                                                                                                #132
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                                I would hardly equate the torture of prisoners in those photo's to torture inflicted by Saddams regime, the pictures are shocking - but not like what saddam did.
                                                                                                                                I am so happy to have read your post because I had completely forgotten that...

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                                                                                                                                  • StuartD
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                                                                                                                                    #133
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Syl
                                                                                                                                    aaah only in America can we talk out of our asses so freely and put down those men and women who risk their lives defending ours and the freedoms granted to us
                                                                                                                                    Invading another country and killing the people and treating them like dogs is considering defending your lives and freedoms granted to you?
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                                                                                                                                      • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                        #134
                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by Syl
                                                                                                                                        aaah only in America can we talk out of our asses so freely and put down those men and women who risk their lives defending ours and the freedoms granted to us
                                                                                                                                        American soldiers in Iraq aren't defending anyone's freedom.

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                                                                                                                                          • jayeff
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                                                                                                                                            #135
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Syl
                                                                                                                                            aaah only in America can we talk out of our asses so freely and put down those men and women who risk their lives defending ours and the freedoms granted to us
                                                                                                                                            Enough with the emotive rhetoric already...

                                                                                                                                            Bush and his cronies, courtesy of The Patriot Act(s) have attempted to take away more of our freedoms than Iraq could ever have done. And since Iraq was never a threat, how can attacking that country be talked of in terms of defending our lives?

                                                                                                                                            If you want a target for your dismay, anger or whatever at the sheer waste of life on both sides, look to the cynical politicians who put our troops in danger to pursue their own agendas.

                                                                                                                                            And contrary to your statement, the US is not the only country that permits freedom of speech, including criticism of government policy. Indeed, people who seek to limit that freedom are the ones who most insult those who made it possible.

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                                                                                                                                              • Syl
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                                                                                                                                                #136
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                                                                                Invading another country and killing the people and treating them like dogs is considering defending your lives and freedoms granted to you?
                                                                                                                                                loyalty..heard of it?
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                                                                                                                                                    #137
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Syl
                                                                                                                                                    loyalty..heard of it?
                                                                                                                                                    Ah, I see... so you'll just support the troops who go off and pillage and plunder and murder innocent people because... you're loyal.

                                                                                                                                                    How very noble of you.
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                                                                                                                                                      • Syl
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                                                                                                                                                        #138
                                                                                                                                                        [QUOTE]Originally posted by jayeff
                                                                                                                                                        [B]Enough with the emotive rhetoric already...

                                                                                                                                                        If you want a target for your dismay, anger or whatever at the sheer waste of life on both sides, look to the cynical politicians who put our troops in danger to pursue their own agendas.



                                                                                                                                                        just so you know..i am neither angered or dismayed ..thanks for your thoughts on my statement though
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                                                                                                                                                          • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                                            #139
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by Syl
                                                                                                                                                            loyalty..heard of it?
                                                                                                                                                            Ahhhh, an unthinking patriot. How refreshing.

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                                                                                                                                                                <font size=20>WHO<br>FUCKING<br>CARES!?</font>

                                                                                                                                                                'Nuff said..

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                                                                                                                                                                  • Syl
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                                                                                                                                                                    #141
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Joe Citizen
                                                                                                                                                                    Ahhhh, an unthinking patriot. How refreshing.
                                                                                                                                                                    You are entitled to your opinion, as am I.
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                                                                                                                                                                      • baddog
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Apr 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                        #142
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by justsexxx


                                                                                                                                                                        Again, mister Bush, the president of peace invated Iraq to FREE this country, and bring freedom and justice to this country, without torture etc, like sadam did...
                                                                                                                                                                        Somehow I don't think Saddam tortured people by putting hoods over their heads, or "telling" them they were hooked up to electrodes

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                                                                                                                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                                                                                                                            #143
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                                                                                                            Ah, I see... so you'll just support the troops who go off and pillage and plunder and murder innocent people because... you're loyal.
                                                                                                                                                                            Those Socialist newspapers sure are putting an interesting slant on the news I guess

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                                                                                                                                                                                #144
                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                Those Socialist newspapers sure are putting an interesting slant on the news I guess
                                                                                                                                                                                I didn't say that's what they were doing. I'm just saying tha the'd support the troops no matter what they do, all in the name of loyalty.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #145
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                                                                                                                    I didn't say that's what they were doing. I'm just saying tha the'd support the troops no matter what they do, all in the name of loyalty.
                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't think you will find anyone supporting murder, your question implied that is what you believe is happening . . . at least a reasonably intelligent person would gather that from your post. USD

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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #146
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                        I don't think you will find anyone supporting murder


                                                                                                                                                                                        Surely you jest.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • StuartD
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #147
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                            I don't think you will find anyone supporting murder,
                                                                                                                                                                                            Really? You must have missed all the people screaming for blood just before the whole invasion started?
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                                                                                                                #148
                                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                                                                                                                                Really? You must have missed all the people screaming for blood just before the whole invasion started?
                                                                                                                                                                                                No shit!

                                                                                                                                                                                                If I had a dollar for every time I heard Americans screaming to KILL THEM ALL, I'd be a very rich man.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #149
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Really? You must have missed all the people screaming for blood just before the whole invasion started?
                                                                                                                                                                                                    War is not murder, and the US is going out of their way to insure civilian casualties are at a minimum. Anyone that does not believe this is in denial.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    It would cost a lot less, and be a lot more efficient to just carpet bomb Iraq, rather than take the chances with door to door searches and the expense of smart bombs

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • StuartD
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #150
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                                                                                        War is not murder, and the US is going out of their way to insure civilian casualties are at a minimum. Anyone that does not believe this is in denial.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        It would cost a lot less, and be a lot more efficient to just carpet bomb Iraq, rather than take the chances with door to door searches and the expense of smart bombs
                                                                                                                                                                                                        That's not what you said.. you said "people supporting murder"

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Do you realize how many people in the US were truly wishing that the US actually would just carpet bomb them? All the people wishing that the US would just wipe out all the "towel heads"?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        People rant and criticize Saddam as an "evil" man that kills people and then turn around and post that they think that the entire country should be turned to glass.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Don't tell me that these "loyal" troop supporters won't support murder.
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