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my #1 sponsor averages me $20.29 a sale. Is that good?

05-06-2004, 11:07 AM

I'm 100% sure they dont shave me but is $20.29 good or is that not great?

Its rev share (obviously) and not pps and I send them lots of traffic. Is that a dollar good number these days?
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05-06-2004, 11:09 AM

looks good to me, but how often do you make a sale ?

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05-06-2004, 11:09 AM

if you have good conversions... Yes!
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05-06-2004, 11:09 AM

This is not much really
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05-06-2004, 11:10 AM

if it converts well enough, you should keep it
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05-06-2004, 11:11 AM

It is not good, you can make 35 bucks asale with per signup, why use revshare if yuo make around $20 per signup with that.......you should be able to make more from each signup since they should reccur for months......

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05-06-2004, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Nicky
It is not good, you can make 35 bucks asale with per signup, why use revshare if yuo make around $20 per signup with that.......you should be able to make more from each signup since they should reccur for months......

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05-06-2004, 11:12 AM

How much does that come out to per unique hits?

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05-06-2004, 11:12 AM

Sounds alright to me, If you are making more then a true 20 bucks on every single sale.
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05-06-2004, 11:13 AM

That really depends on how long you have been sending the joins. It should go up the longer you are with the program.

The start of the 4th month should start to show good returns, by month 6/7 you could see the joins starting to be as much as $40 on average. The price of the site makes a difference as well.

$20 isn't bad.. If you are converting lets say 1:100 and when you advertise someone else that pays $35 and you convert 1:200 then you are doing good

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05-06-2004, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by ajpiii
looks good to me, but how often do you make a sale ?

I average 5-7 a day. 3 is a slow day and 10 is a really good day.

the ratio is around 1:50.
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05-06-2004, 11:16 AM

Originally posted by clickhappy
I average 5-7 a day. 3 is a slow day and 10 is a really good day.

the ratio is around 1:50.

How many months have you used them?

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05-06-2004, 11:17 AM

about 16 months
ratio is around 1:50
They send me the largest check, but I have other sponsors who average $40/sale, but it's hard for me to get a sale with them so the checks are a fraction of my #1 sponsor.

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05-06-2004, 11:19 AM

If you get good convertion ratios, it sounds good.
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05-06-2004, 11:19 AM

Sounds good.

I believe Topbucks pays about $27.50 per revshare sale. They recurr pretty well too. I have been meaning to send them more traffic for a while.

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05-06-2004, 11:20 AM

20$ on 1:50 is great.
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05-06-2004, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by clickhappy
about 16 months
ratio is around 1:50
They send me the largest chest, but I have other people who average $40/sale, but it's hard for me to get a sale with them.

16 months, one would think it should be a little higher but that isn't all that bad really. The niche makes a huge difference on the retention.

You may want to look how often they update the paysite if you are wanting to improve your retention, maybe talk to the site owner.

If you are converting better with them, and doing $20 a join on average then no way in hell any flat rate program could keep up.

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05-06-2004, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Sounds good.

I believe Topbucks pays about $27.50 per revshare sale. They recurr pretty well too. I have been meaning to send them more traffic for a while.

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05-06-2004, 11:23 AM

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05-06-2004, 11:25 AM

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pornwolf, the webair url is fucked up in your sig

Thanks I just changed it.

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05-06-2004, 11:25 AM

Damn yeah it's good !

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05-06-2004, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by TheDoc
16 months, one would think it should be a little higher but that isn't all that bad really. The niche makes a huge difference on the retention.

I was thinking that it would be higher at this point too which is why I asked. I thought by this point I'd be making 5 figures a month but I'm not near that. Still the checks are very good and I haven't had any money problems in life since making them my #1 sponsor.
It's a middle of the road niche, like mature or anal.
From the responses I guess I'm doing average to good, so I'm happy.
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05-06-2004, 11:31 AM

The pay doesn't really matter. If they pay out a dollar and you convert 1:1 its all gravy.
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05-06-2004, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Nicky
It is not good, you can make 35 bucks asale with per signup, why use revshare if yuo make around $20 per signup with that.......you should be able to make more from each signup since they should reccur for months......

if they should recur for months, they you will make more

$20 * more than 1 month = more cash

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05-06-2004, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by clickhappy
I was thinking that it would be higher at this point too which is why I asked. I thought by this point I'd be making 5 figures a month but I'm not near that. Still the checks are very good and I haven't had any money problems in life since making them my #1 sponsor.
It's a middle of the road niche, like mature or anal.
From the responses I guess I'm doing average to good, so I'm happy.

I run a recurring program and while it's not all that old and my best site is still rather new I can still work the payout per join.

The one thing I notice is gallery webmasters normally earn $2-8 less per join on average but can send the most joins. While targeted niche webmasters earn $2-8 more per join on average and normally send less joins. The cleaner they qualify the traffic before it hits the paysite the better it seems to retain.

I still get recurring checks from Ibill on a sponsor I used over 3 years ago. Recurring programs own flat rates if you just wait it out.

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05-06-2004, 11:39 AM

This is why the advice I give is not worryinghow much $ you make per signup. Setup an outgoing click counter and see which brings you the largest earnings per outgoing click (granted with revshare, this will take longer to measure).

A revshare program can make you a lot of money or it can just be a waste of your traffic. Personally, I split between revshare and per signup and try to keep a happy balance of both. With revshare you want to ensure the site is unique and doesn't just have the same old generic content. If you're sending to per signup, it doesn't matter as much because you got paid upfront.

You should look at revshare as sort of a partnership. So it's oimportant to know what your partner is doing.

I personally like revshare programs that aren't run by "professional corporations". They generally do better if the owner has a true interest in the niche. I've seen plenty of big player sponsors with niche sites and it's obvious they have no clue about the niche.

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05-06-2004, 11:41 AM

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05-06-2004, 11:44 AM

I really don't want to read all this useless replys.....

The answer is simple.... it doesn't matter if you get $20 per sale or $100 per sale... all what matters is the $/click.
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05-06-2004, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Vox
How much does that come out to per unique hits?

Yeah, how much per unique?
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05-06-2004, 11:57 AM

In my personal experiences, and people I know personally who are webmasters usually have way better conversions with revshare programs. Seems alot of times sites that are similar and you would think would do about the same say one is PPS and the other is revshare, I am willing to bet 99% of the time the revshare is gonna convert better, usually 2 times better.

Many things I am sure contribute to this, PPS sponsors may scrub harder to keep fraud down, or could just be shaving, another reason is most PPS programs are the big guys and are over used.
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05-06-2004, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by clickhappy
I'm 100% sure they dont shave me but is $20.29 good or is that not great?

Its rev share (obviously) and not pps and I send them lots of traffic. Is that a dollar good number these days?

What kind of site is it exactly? Do you get a share on the initial purchase of the membership (and recurring), or do they join free and buy eventually later from within the member area?
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