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  • davethetruth
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    • Jan 2004
    • 2806
    #51
    Originally posted by psyko514
    *sigh*

    sheep.

    ** ding ding ding! **

    I really don't care about any of this shit, I just want to see my two cousins, my best friend's brother and my friend's husband return safely.

    This is the only truthful opinion I have, I could argue any side of this war if I was bored, lol.
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      • kmanrox
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        #52
        war happens... all you tree-huggers have obviously not served your countries.. so sit back down please.

        move along, it's bad enough you're wasting my oxygen
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          • psyko514
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            #53
            Originally posted by davethetruth
            ** ding ding ding! **

            I really don't care about any of this shit, I just want to see my two cousins, my best friend's brother and my friend's husband return safely.
            that's all that matters.

            i hope for their safe return

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              • uno
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                #54
                Originally posted by davethetruth
                ** ding ding ding! **

                I really don't care about any of this shit, I just want to see my two cousins, my best friend's brother and my friend's husband return safely.

                This is the only truthful opinion I have, I could argue any side of this war if I was bored, lol.
                I'd really prefer if my brother-in-law wouldn't go in the first place, let alone patrols outside baghdad.
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                  • psyko514
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                    #55
                    Originally posted by kmanrox
                    war happens... all you tree-huggers have obviously not served your countries.. so sit back down please.

                    move along, it's bad enough you're wasting my oxygen
                    the soldiers in iraq aren't serving their country.

                    their fulfilling the wishes of a self-serving bastard on a power trip.

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                      • xenophobic
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by bhutocracy
                        Mate, If you go to Iraq, not even to "defend your country" but as a soldier for hire that gets paid 4 times what soldiers get paid, then I don't have a lot of sympathy for you if you get killed.
                        He didn't deserve to get burned to death, BUT WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT GOING INTO A WARZONE FOR MONEY?

                        Most soldiers don't have the option of choosing to go, these guys did, it's like a human shield, A human shield goes to Iraq during shock and awe and I'm supposed to feel especially sorry for her when she dies? Fuck no. Is it a bad thing? Yes. Sure she didn't DESERVE to die, but fuck, don't play russian roulette and then come whinging to me for sympathy when you give yourself a labotomy.
                        The same could be said for Police who die in the line of duty, they died for doing their job in a domestic role which they were paid for - same with firemen and other people with high risks jobs, they know the risks but it is no less a tragedy when they die in the course of doing that job.

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                          • soldierdog
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                            • Jan 2004
                            • 82
                            #57
                            This is fucken ridiculous. It is fairly simple, they should punish the people who were responsible for this as any DEMOCRACY does and will as opposed to a DICTATORSHIP that would cover this up and probably committ further more serious acts.

                            Quite amusing to see all the Doves and Euros defending Dictators, defending those that cheered at the fall of the twin towers, defending those that dragged around those American Soldiers and Hung them up in the streets. Where is the outrage for that, eh? Where is the outrage for the extrem abuse that WILL NEVER be dealt with transparantly or at all, or looked into by a court system or media outlet.

                            Where is the outrage over that eh? Where is the outrage from the Muslim Community and action to clean up their own back yard instead of getting the people they hate so much to do it? Hell the western world cleans up its own mess, for example, Hitler.

                            Fucken Yo, yo's. Face it, there is a lot of hate going on towards the United States and it was there a LONG Fucken TIME before BUSH or 911 happned so don't try and pin it on this administration.

                            So in the end I would have to agree, the U.S. should pull out and let everyone holding onto them like parasites sink in their own shit, cut everyone off and become the pricks everyone thinks they are. When they get in trouble for whatever reason, tell them to fuck off, no food, no money, no technology, no help whatsoever unless they can become reaonable mentally stable human beings.


                            End of story.

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                              • uno
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                                #58
                                Originally posted by soldierdog
                                This is fucken ridiculous. It is fairly simple, they should punish the people who were responsible for this as any DEMOCRACY does and will as opposed to a DICTATORSHIP that would cover this up and probably committ further more serious acts.

                                Quite amusing to see all the Doves and Euros defending Dictators, defending those that cheered at the fall of the twin towers, defending those that dragged around those American Soldiers and Hung them up in the streets. Where is the outrage for that, eh? Where is the outrage for the extrem abuse that WILL NEVER be dealt with transparantly or at all, or looked into by a court system or media outlet.

                                Where is the outrage over that eh? Where is the outrage from the Muslim Community and action to clean up their own back yard instead of getting the people they hate so much to do it? Hell the western world cleans up its own mess, for example, Hitler.

                                Fucken Yo, yo's. Face it, there is a lot of hate going on towards the United States and it was there a LONG Fucken TIME before BUSH or 911 happned so don't try and pin it on this administration.

                                So in the end I would have to agree, the U.S. should pull out and let everyone holding onto them like parasites sink in their own shit, cut everyone off and become the pricks everyone thinks they are. When they get in trouble for whatever reason, tell them to fuck off, no food, no money, no technology, no help whatsoever unless they can become reaonable mentally stable human beings.


                                End of story.
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                                  • soldierdog
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                                    • Jan 2004
                                    • 82
                                    #59
                                    UNO

                                    That was pretty deep

                                    When the tailgate drops, the bullshit stops

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                                      • Rich
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                                        • Jan 2003
                                        • 11486
                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by xenophobic
                                        Can you name one single person unaccounted for or missing? or even anyone confirmed to have been tortured to death? or are you going on the assumption of the media that soldiers claim to have seen bodies taken out without identification?
                                        The US army has already laid 2 murder charges and are looking at another 14 suspicious deaths.

                                        I'll never understand why people chime in when they don't know if they're right or not.

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                                          • KRL
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                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 31429
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Rich
                                            The US army has already laid 2 murder charges and are looking at another 14 suspicious deaths.

                                            I'll never understand why people chime in when they don't know if they're right or not.
                                            That's for sure. People just blab on this board without researching facts first.
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                                              • bhutocracy
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                                                • Dec 2001
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                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                The same could be said for Police who die in the line of duty, they died for doing their job in a domestic role which they were paid for - same with firemen and other people with high risks jobs, they know the risks but it is no less a tragedy when they die in the course of doing that job.
                                                Like Kman said "War Happens"

                                                Comparing the civil service to a soldier of fortune is an inane comparison.. Killing and getting killed is what they do. It is an expectation of a much higher degree than that of other jobs and it's not done for the good of the public.

                                                However I never said it wasn't a bad thing, but I firmly believe there has to be responsibilities for one's decisions, and to me that denotes a level of sympathy and "tradgedy" to a death.

                                                Is Mr. Civilian who we were led to believe was some kind of aid worker's death more tragic than a soldier for hire getting paid 200k/yr? Yes it is.

                                                Mr. Civilian is supposedly helping distribute food and medicine and he gets blown up by the horrible sand ******s. That is more of a tradgedy, killed by the very people he was trying to help.

                                                Mr. Armed Mercenary going halfway across the world as a trained killer to collect vast wads of cash in a warzone gets killed.. Yes it's a bad thing. But a horrible tragedy?.. Sorry I just can't bring that kind of empathy to the table.

                                                Why is it more horrible when a child gets killed?
                                                why is it more horrible when a pregnant woman gets beaten and mugged?
                                                Don't kid yourself, if someone puts themselves in a dangerous situation for money you can't expect the same level of sympathy and you'll never get it.

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                                                  • Rich
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                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 11486
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by soldierdog
                                                    UNO

                                                    That was pretty deep
                                                    His one sentence took 30 times the brain power your 3 paragraph waste of space post did. Educate yourself instead of making serious decisions out of misguided hate and fear.

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                                                      • Roger
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                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 3181
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Corleone
                                                        we've to give a fuck.. else we'll end back in '45

                                                        did you gave a fuck?

                                                        it was war
                                                        Yeah I remember it very much. It's a good thing Bush wasn't there at the time, he would've went after some small time dictator and tried to negotiate with Hitler just like he does with Kim Jong Il.

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                                                          • Tytan
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                                                            • Sep 2003
                                                            • 1391
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                            I give a fuck as do the vast majority of Americans. We're paying the $200 Billion bill for this ass clown war.

                                                            This is not how the US Military is supposed to operate or conduct itself.

                                                            As the leader of the free world we are expected to set a positive example for others. Not have our military commit atrocious acts on POW's.

                                                            Dude lets put your american ass in Iraq - by the end of the day you'll be captured and KILLED & not stripped & pissed on.
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                                                              • xenophobic
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by bhutocracy

                                                                Mr. Armed Mercenary going halfway across the world as a trained killer to collect vast wads of cash in a warzone gets killed.. Yes it's a bad thing. But a horrible tragedy?.. Sorry I just can't bring that kind of empathy to the table.
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                                                                not only that, but they are hired as security guards for the convoy they were protecting, and only engaged when engaged by the enemy, more of an armed bouncer than a 'soldier of fortune'

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                                                                  • xenophobic
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                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                    • 874
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Rich
                                                                    The US army has already laid 2 murder charges and are looking at another 14 suspicious deaths.

                                                                    I'll never understand why people chime in when they don't know if they're right or not.
                                                                    charged isn't convicted you fucking muppet.

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                                                                      • JDog
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                                                                        #68
                                                                        Yea, I'm kinda with you on there. First of all, what did the fucking Iraqi's do to our guys?

                                                                        Hell they fucking shot them, and fucking put their faces in the media. But it's not as big of a uproar, as it is of our soldiers torturing Iraqi's!

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                                                                          • Roger
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                                                                            • Jul 2003
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                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by KRL
                                                                            Wake up. This is what got out. There are POW's that were killed also and some that are missing and not accounted for.

                                                                            Even if one was killed under extreme interrogation it is not acceptable.

                                                                            That is not what this country's principals are based on.
                                                                            There's a difference between what your country's principals are based on and what Bush's principals are based on. Hasn't he told you enough times that he answers to a higher father?

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                                                                              • latinasojourn
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                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                • 3191
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by KRL
                                                                                I give a fuck as do the vast majority of Americans. We're paying the $200 Billion bill for this ass clown war.

                                                                                This is not how the US Military is supposed to operate or conduct itself.

                                                                                As the leader of the free world we are expected to set a positive example for others. Not have our military commit atrocious acts on POW's.


                                                                                good answer, and correct.

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                                                                                  • directfiesta
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                                                                                    • Oct 2002
                                                                                    • 30176
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by JDog
                                                                                    Yea, I'm kinda with you on there. First of all, what did the fucking Iraqi's do to our guys?

                                                                                    Hell they fucking shot them, and fucking put their faces in the media. But it's not as big of a uproar, as it is of our soldiers torturing Iraqi's!

                                                                                    jDoG


                                                                                    Sure, they came to Baltimore and are shooting Americans...

                                                                                    Kick out the iraqis invaders from the homeland!!!


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                                                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                      • Cassie
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                                                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                                                        • 3139
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                        This was a US civilian:




                                                                                        This is an opposition soldier:
                                                                                        with these pictures alone; enough said. good god! i dont think some get it! someone in this thread said what did the iraqi's being held ever do except protect their country from invading forces?

                                                                                        let me ask this, if these iraqi's were roaming the streets do you think they would, if given the chance, go right up to one of our soldiers and pull the trigger? do you think, if given the opportunity, that these same people wouldn't hesitate to kill one of their own?

                                                                                        does anyone not remember the beginning of this atrocity and our soldiers shot execution style?

                                                                                        what more needs to be said?

                                                                                        pic 1-burned to death for no other reason except trying to rebuild a shit hold country

                                                                                        pic 2- he should count his blessings every day that he is alive on a leash (alive being the key word).
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                                                                                          • genomega
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                                                                                            • Feb 2002
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                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by emmanuelle
                                                                                            Then get out!
                                                                                            btw- ever hear of something called the Geneva convention?
                                                                                            Yes and the US is the only country to ever abide by those rules.

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                                                                                              • Roger
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                                                                                                #74
                                                                                                Originally posted by Cassie
                                                                                                let me ask this, if these iraqi's were roaming the streets do you think they would, if given the chance, go right up to one of our soldiers and pull the trigger? do you think, if given the opportunity, that these same people wouldn't hesitate to kill one of their own?
                                                                                                If my country was invaded I would pull trigger on occupying soldiers and anyone who dares to collaborate with them.

                                                                                                does anyone not remember the beginning of this atrocity and our soldiers shot execution style?

                                                                                                what more needs to be said?
                                                                                                It's a hell of a lot better than torture.
                                                                                                As for the pic, it sure is bad but a poll showed that the vast majority of the people in Falloujah found that act despicable even though they agreed with the killing. And the guy was killed because he's a mercenary, you know one of those who get hired to interrogate Iraqi prisoners, secure convoys, go kill a few people and so on.

                                                                                                pic 2- he should count his blessings every day that he is alive on a leash (alive being the key word).
                                                                                                I'd rather be dead. Do I have to mention the Iraqis who died while in US custody? And you have to take into account that at least 60% of the prisoners in there are innocent and are held only on shaky suspicions.
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                                                                                                  • xenophobic
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                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Cassie

                                                                                                    pic 1-burned to death for no other reason except trying to rebuild a shit hold country

                                                                                                    pic 2- he should count his blessings every day that he is alive on a leash (alive being the key word).
                                                                                                    Please, I think the murder of the civilian security guards was a tragedy, but even they knew the risks, and they took them.

                                                                                                    A person should not have to thank anyone for being hauled around the floor on a leash, if the same thing happened to a member of your familiy in a domestic prison, you would be saying to the media "at least he's alive and not in the electric chair!"

                                                                                                    It's abusive and abhorrent and there is no justification for either.

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                                                                                                      • Cassie
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                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by Roger

                                                                                                        Do I have to mention the Iraqis who died while in US custody?
                                                                                                        boo hoo! as i am sure they are saying the same about our dead. the only difference is that most of our are trying to help them gain a better way of life. there was a reason so many tried or wanted to flee iraq.
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                                                                                                          • Cassie
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                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                            Please, I think the murder of the civilian security guards was a tragedy, but even they knew the risks, and they took them.
                                                                                                            you just made a very good point!

                                                                                                            just as soldiers and civilians are aware of the risks and possible outcome of being over there, the same can be said for that country's people.

                                                                                                            it's a war and they, like americans, can expect the worst; don't ever be shocked with the outcome of risks taken.
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                                                                                                              • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                Originally posted by Roger
                                                                                                                If my country was invaded I would pull trigger on occupying soldiers and anyone who dares to collaborate with them.
                                                                                                                Even if you lived under a dictatorship?
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                                                                                                                  • xenophobic
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                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Cassie
                                                                                                                    you just made a very good point!

                                                                                                                    just as soldiers and civilians are aware of the risks and possible outcome of being over there, the same can be said for that country's people.

                                                                                                                    it's a war and they, like americans, can expect the worst; don't ever be shocked with the outcome of risks taken.
                                                                                                                    The local population has no choice but to be in harms way, they are not taking risks - to them it is everyday life in a warzone, some of the people being held in a military run prison are not even P.O.W's but have been arrested for petty crimes, the military have no authority to hold, or torture them - they should be in a domestic prison, I'm sure you would think the same if a member of your family was held in a military prison for "questioning" for shoplifting?

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                                                                                                                      • Roger
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                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                        Even if you lived under a dictatorship?
                                                                                                                        Yes even if I lived under a dictatorship. I don't wanna be one of those Frenchmen ridiculed and made fun of because someone else helped me get rid of a tyrant. I'd rather do it myself even if it costs me decades and my life.

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                                                                                                                          • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                            The local population has no choice but to be in harms way, they are not taking risks - to them it is everyday life in a warzone, some of the people being held in a military run prison are not even P.O.W's but have been arrested for petty crimes, the military have no authority to hold, or torture them - they should be in a domestic prison, I'm sure you would think the same if a member of your family was held in a military prison for "questioning" for shoplifting?
                                                                                                                            Oh yeah, I forgot that those POWs were shoplifters, lol.

                                                                                                                            I don't think there's any people in there for petty crimes, I think they have more important things to worry about.

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                                                                                                                              • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Roger
                                                                                                                                Yes even if I lived under a dictatorship. I don't wanna be one of those Frenchmen ridiculed and made fun of because someone else helped me get rid of a tyrant. I'd rather do it myself even if it costs me decades and my life.
                                                                                                                                You just totally contradicted yourself.
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                                                                                                                                  • Roger
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                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Cassie
                                                                                                                                    boo hoo! as i am sure they are saying the same about our dead. the only difference is that most of our are trying to help them gain a better way of life. there was a reason so many tried or wanted to flee iraq.
                                                                                                                                    Help them? Please, there are plenty of countries who need help to stop real massacres and are directly asking for it. This war has not helped and wasn't meant to help them.

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                                                                                                                                      • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                                        #84
                                                                                                                                        Or are you gonna shoot your dictator and your invaders trying to overthrow your dictator.

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                                                                                                                                          • Roger
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                                                                                                                                            #85
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                                            Or are you gonna shoot your dictator and your invaders trying to overthrow your dictator.
                                                                                                                                            I'll go after the dictator first and if I'm still alive I'll go after the invaders next.

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                                                                                                                                              • xenophobic
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                                                                                                                                                #86
                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                                                Oh yeah, I forgot that those POWs were shoplifters, lol.

                                                                                                                                                I don't think there's any people in there for petty crimes, I think they have more important things to worry about.

                                                                                                                                                perhaps you should ask the person in charge of the prison then mastermind?
                                                                                                                                                <I>Baghdad Central and other prisons are undergoing extensive renovation, including the addition of ceiling fans, toilets and showers. Whereas detainees used to cry at the very thought of Abu Ghraib, for many the "living conditions now are better in prison than at home," Karpinski says. "At one point we were concerned they wouldn't want to leave."
                                                                                                                                                About 9,000 of the men, women and juveniles in custody throughout Iraq are "civilian prisoners" charged with theft and other common crimes. In all but the most serious cases, they are released within a few weeks or months.
                                                                                                                                                Other prisoners, said to number a few thousand Iraqis and foreigners, are "security detainees" suspected of crimes against the coalition. Within 72 hours, they are informed of the charges against them. They also are entitled to a review by a coalition military committee, with followup reviews every six months.
                                                                                                                                                "It's really a different situation from Guantanamo," says Karpinski, referring to the U.S. military base on Cuba where hundreds of terrorist suspects have been held for more than two years without charge. </I>

                                                                                                                                                so tell us again there are no civilians in military detention?

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                                                                                                                                                  • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                                                    Silly rabbit


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                                                                                                                                                        Who Gives a Fuck about Tortured Iraqis!
                                                                                                                                                        If you were to rephrase this as a question, my response would be "not I."

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                                                                                                                                                          • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                                                            #89
                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                                                            perhaps you should ask the person in charge of the prison then mastermind?
                                                                                                                                                            <I> "living conditions now are better in prison than at home," Karpinski says. "At one point we were concerned they wouldn't want to leave."
                                                                                                                                                            In all but the most serious cases, they are released within a few weeks or months.
                                                                                                                                                            </I>

                                                                                                                                                            so tell us again there are no civilians in military detention?
                                                                                                                                                            And those aren't military prisons, they're iraqi prisons. Big difference!
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                                                                                                                                                                #90
                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                                                                Silly rabbit
                                                                                                                                                                is silly rabbit a code word of 'I couldn't even buy a clue till I got schooled?'

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                                                                                                                                                                    #91
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                                                                    And those aren't military prisons, they're iraqi prisons. Big difference!
                                                                                                                                                                    when the person in charge of them is a soldier, and the persons policing them are <B>military police</B>, am I supposed to believe it is not a military prison?

                                                                                                                                                                    next?

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                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                                                                        is silly rabbit a code word of 'I couldn't even buy a clue till I got schooled?'
                                                                                                                                                                        Oh, so that makes sense to you?

                                                                                                                                                                        Kill the dictator and the people who invaded your country to take your dictator out?
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                                                                                                                                                                            #93
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                                                                            when the person in charge of them is a soldier, and the persons policing them are <B>military police</B>, am I supposed to believe it is not a military prison?

                                                                                                                                                                            next?
                                                                                                                                                                            They are policed by iraqis that were trained by US, UK soldiers.
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                                                                                                                                                                                Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                                                                                is silly rabbit a code word of 'I couldn't even buy a clue till I got schooled?'
                                                                                                                                                                                Do you think you're smart or something? You make no sense and contradict yourself every other post. I already said earlier in this thread that I was playing the political drama on this board. I could argue your side of the argument 100 times better than you are right now.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    wtf ?
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                                                                                                                                                                                    #95
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                                                                                    Who cares if US military is torturing some Iraqis by walking them like dogs on leashes and getting them naked?

                                                                                                                                                                                    It doesn't seems that bad to me, it is war!


                                                                                                                                                                                    They're at a loss as to how to tame these fucking animals.


                                                                                                                                                                                    Remeber this?

                                                                                                                                                                                    http://www.oxnard-journal.com/sunni.htm

                                                                                                                                                                                    In my opinion they've got to get even tougher or get the fuck out!
                                                                                                                                                                                    great post
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                                                                                                                                                                                        #96
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                                                                                        They are policed by iraqis that were trained by US, UK soldiers.
                                                                                                                                                                                        <I>Last June, Janis Karpinski, an Army reserve brigadier general, was named commander of the 800th Military Police Brigade and put in charge of military prisons in Iraq. </I>

                                                                                                                                                                                        <I>In the looting that followed the regime?s collapse, last April, the huge prison complex, by then deserted, was stripped of everything that could be removed, including doors, hahahahahahas, and bricks. The coalition authorities had the floors tiled, cells cleaned and repaired, and toilets, showers, and a new medical center added. <B>Abu Ghraib was now a U.S. military prison.</B> Most of the prisoners, however by the fall there were several thousand, <B>including women and teen-agers were civilians, many of whom had been picked up in random military sweeps and at highway checkpoints.</B> They fell into three loosely defined categories: common criminals; security detainees suspected of ?crimes against the coalition; and a small number of suspected high-value? leaders of the insurgency against the coalition forces.
                                                                                                                                                                                        </I>
                                                                                                                                                                                        http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/

                                                                                                                                                                                        Hello?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          • davethetruth
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                                                                                                                                                                                            #97
                                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by xenophobic
                                                                                                                                                                                            is silly rabbit a code word of 'I couldn't even buy a clue till I got schooled?'
                                                                                                                                                                                            "Silly rabbit" refers to the saying "Silly Rabbit, Tricks are for kids." Which is implying that your acting like a child.


                                                                                                                                                                                            WTF does this mean?
                                                                                                                                                                                            'I couldn't even buy a clue till I got schooled?'
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                                                                                                                                                                                                NAJAF, Iraq - Dhia al-Shweiri spent several stints in Baghdad's notorious Abu Ghraib prison, twice under Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s rule and once under American. He prefers Saddam's torture to the humiliation of being stripped naked by his American guards, he said Sunday in an interview with The Associated Press.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Now the 30-year-old, who used to work in a fabric shop, is a die-hard fighter in the al-Mahdi Army, the fanatic militia of a Shiite Muslim cleric who has vowed to take on the Americans.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Al-Shweiri said that while jailed by Saddam's regime, he was electrocuted, beaten and hung from the ceiling with his hands tied behind his back.

                                                                                                                                                                                                "But that's better than the humiliation of being stripped naked," he said. "Shoot me here," he added, pointing between his eyes, "but don't do this to us."
                                                                                                                                                                                                link.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Paul Waters
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by davethetruth

                                                                                                                                                                                                    They're at a loss as to how to tame these fucking animals.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Having these opinions, and expressing them, says a lot about you. A lot about Americans. And a lot about what people around the world think of Americans.



                                                                                                                                                                                                    Paul

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • xenophobic
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                                                                                                                                                                                                        #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by davethetruth
                                                                                                                                                                                                        "Silly rabbit" refers to the saying "Silly Rabbit, Tricks are for kids." Which is implying that your acting like a child.


                                                                                                                                                                                                        WTF does this mean?
                                                                                                                                                                                                        oh sorry, I was waiting for another of your great posts with quotes that prove that there are no civilians in military prisons in Iraq.

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