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Guys--If you've notcied the two sponsors who have responded to say they would be totally cool with you doing this are the same two who were the first to say Yes to Clicktruth.

This is exactly the system we have in place with CT. If you guys want to run tests, hit me up. You are correct in most of your assumptions, this is why we installed scripts on these sponsors back-ends. You need real traffic, the tests need to be conitnuos and on-going, you need to sponsors permission so you are not de-frauding them.

We have gotten all of this and send our own traffic and tests to both of these outstanding sponsors (and we're adding more). We're also happy to add any sponsor you guys recommend, so put some pressure on em!

There is no charge to join our system as a webmaster and the only charge we have for a test is the payout fee plus an admin fee so we re-coup the funds for the sponsor. If you have traffic, we can re-direct a portion of it, or all of it, whatever you prefer with your codes as normal (we have a link generator tool) or we can send our own traffic with your code if you are just getting started...

Our system has also been reviewed and approved by Epoch...and I personally go to every show (as do all the partners of the Porn Posse) if you have ???.

There is no reason you need to "trust" us...you can use our system to test sponsors for yourself....

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Maybe you are right about it.. but maybe it can work!

Clearly this could be detected (proxy first red flag) and as stated in previous responses to the thread, in vilolation of your sponsors TOS. In away it is cheating the sponsor. Does another wrong make a right.

I think what needs to happen is for the industry to mature a bit. Maybe that is the growing pains we're going through. By maturing I mean stronger industry trade organizations, that could have a good of conduct and perhaps include a standarized contract that make a commitment to that code. A sponsor either agrees to use the standard contract or not. Would be a selling point to affiliates.

That contract would include (among other things) an agreement for blind testing by an industry trade association. With any profits from testiing returned the sponsor.

The $35 join payouts, obviously may make a sponsor feel the need to shave. I must say that my revshare accounts seem to have the same conversions as the pay per join.

I have tested sponsors, cause I just couldn't understanding after all those surfers I sent, there was no conversion.

I also notified the sponsor of my testing.

No sponsor ever complained. Of course I never called them cheaters. I just expressed my concerns that the process was working and that an error in my account code or something wasn't causing a problem.

In all cases my join appeared. I have not done this enough to make it a hard statistic though...

i think the idea still good

I forgot about this thread.

yeah me too, but i still think that if we use this idea, we can bust almost ALL shaving sponsors