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01-22-2005, 08:23 PM

I'll be graduating college in about 5 weeks. I have already landed a position at a local IT company that looks really promising. They will pay me pretty much to "learn", and carry out system admin responsibilities. Certification goals will be set and I have to reach them.

On my formal employment offer, it states the following

"If you accept this offer for employment, your employment with XXX will be ?At Will?. As a result, you will be free to resign from your employment at any time, and XXXXX may terminate its employment relationship with you at any time, with or without cause. "

From what I understand, they are covering their asses incase I suck. But I am wondering if formal Employment offer sheets like this should contain information about benefits / health insurance. Or is this document more suited for the acceptance of the position for the set salary and "at will" status.

Do any of you have any knowledge or experience wit "At Will" employment contracts, was there benefits, or any kind of guaranteed time at the company?

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01-22-2005, 08:25 PM

thats a typical work for hire thing anyhow.

both of you are covered.

actualy in cali this type of thing is the norm. either party can term at anytime. if its not working out, who really wants to be involved anyhow, right?
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01-22-2005, 08:34 PM

A1R3K, I completely agree.

I have not spoken to my contact there about benefits yet, so I'm kicking around the idea that by signing this contract, I could be signing away any rights to benefits.

Is it the norm for this employment offer be sent with no details of benefits?

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01-22-2005, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by aflex

A1R3K, I completely agree.

I have not spoken to my contact there about benefits yet, so I'm kicking around the idea that by signing this contract, I could be signing away any rights to benefits.

Is it the norm for this employment offer be sent with no details of benefits?

Yes. Your contract is for your employment. The benifits come later.

Texas is an at will state, either party can call it quits at any time for any non discriminatory reason.

Are you worried about your benifits? Is something shady about the company that you think they will gip you on them? You can ask HR to put the benifits schedule in writing. But, do it AFTER you sign the employment agreement.
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01-22-2005, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by aflex

A1R3K, I completely agree.

I have not spoken to my contact there about benefits yet, so I'm kicking around the idea that by signing this contract, I could be signing away any rights to benefits.

LMAO....and you're graduating soon?

Is this your first job ever?
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01-22-2005, 11:05 PM

seems like the norm.

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01-22-2005, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by aflex

I'll be graduating college in about 5 weeks. I have already landed a position at a local IT company that looks really promising. They will pay me pretty much to "learn", and carry out system admin responsibilities. Certification goals will be set and I have to reach them.

On my formal employment offer, it states the following

"If you accept this offer for employment, your employment with XXX will be ?At Will?. As a result, you will be free to resign from your employment at any time, and XXXXX may terminate its employment relationship with you at any time, with or without cause. "

From what I understand, they are covering their asses incase I suck. But I am wondering if formal Employment offer sheets like this should contain information about benefits / health insurance. Or is this document more suited for the acceptance of the position for the set salary and "at will" status.

Do any of you have any knowledge or experience wit "At Will" employment contracts, was there benefits, or any kind of guaranteed time at the company?

"at will" means notice is not required for quitting or for being let go... so it is a "condition of employment" other conditions would be your salary and your benefits....a decent employer would have presented that to you along with the "at will" condition.......

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01-22-2005, 11:28 PM

i wonder if they will make you change the laptop batteries

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01-22-2005, 11:33 PM

Your under contract you get no beneifits.
No Medical,no dental no eye etc...

401K no.

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01-23-2005, 08:27 PM

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01-24-2005, 07:15 PM

Just to follow this post up.. I ended up getting full benefits.. health insurance/dental/401k etc etc. The "At will" Employment offer sheet pretty much secured my position with the company. They covered their asses legally with it.

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01-24-2005, 07:45 PM

sweet

basically at will is the best. if anyone isnt happy, its all over.
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01-24-2005, 07:55 PM

It means you have no contract but agree to work there and they agree to hire you. You secured nothing.

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01-24-2005, 07:58 PM

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01-24-2005, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by jukeboxfrank

It means you have no contract but agree to work there and they agree to hire you. You secured nothing.

Nothing is secure anymore.

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01-24-2005, 07:58 PM

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01-24-2005, 08:53 PM

This is a great site and recommend all At-Will employees to read it.

http://jobsearchtech.about.com/od/la...aa092402_2.htm

I also recommend other areas of site such as termination rights, severence, et. al.

better to be informed instead of learning a lesson later. ahem.

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01-24-2005, 09:01 PM

This is very common in the corporate world. Usually employment offer letters won't list benefits, but that doesn't mean you won't get them. California is one of the states where you can be an "at will" employee.

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