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  • BradM
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 3397

    #1

    PPC traffic guys: Tips thread (contribute and learn)

    Okay, I know some of you fuckers don't like to share your tips. Try to keep them secret and stealth like.

    Well I like to share mine ;)

    How do YOU get your PPC traffic to convert? Do you send it right to the sponsor or do you send it to a gallery, or send it to an FPA?
    An FPA with text? A gallery with pics or movies..?

    These are just some questions you can quickly and generall answer.

    Personally I make my title and description as non-clicky as possible, so only those who READ the whole thing will want to click. Once clicked they are sent to an FPA with text description. (almost like a review)

    The other way I do it is to make a mini review site of a couple sites and let the surfer decide. I also throw on some upsells like pills, pumps and dating.

    Also who do you use for your traffic?
    Findwhat and sex.com are excellent ppc engines in my experience.

    Don't be shy folks let's hear what you have to say.
  • Headless
    Registered User
    • Jan 2001
    • 26727

    #2
    You have to pre-qualify like a mofo... Just like you said... I bought some traffic from google and goto in the past... always turned a buck on it...

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    • BradM
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2003
      • 3397

      #3
      bump above everyone talking about prozac and "hitting it"

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      • ZeroFate
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2004
        • 257

        #4
        my tip:

        target the hell out of your ad. one wrong word can bring in hundreds of wasted clicks.

        that is my one and only tip, I want to keep my 1:150-200 conversion ratio.
        I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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        • buddyjuf

          #5
          sending your traffic to a HPA or FPA really improves the signup ratio

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          • Jon
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2002
            • 2578

            #6
            Originally posted by Headless
            You have to pre-qualify like a mofo... Just like you said... I bought some traffic from google and goto in the past... always turned a buck on it...
            Aww that's cute! You still call it GoTo..

            WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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            • BradM
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2003
              • 3397

              #7
              Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
              Aww that's cute! You still call it GoTo..
              So do I. Overture is the worst name I have ever heard of. What the HELL is an "Overture". Grrrrr.

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              • Jon
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2002
                • 2578

                #8
                Alright, BradM has a point and I'll help him out..

                Google AdWords - BEST PPC for Adult in my opinion.

                Don't just churn out your messages on the fly, pick out some keywords, juice some cash into the campaign and let it rip. You will LOSE your investment. Take the time out, research your terms, make 1-2 ad groups per 10-15 keywords. Spread everything out, keep tabs on it constantly and aim for CTR's of 3% or higher just to start out with (my avg is 8%-11%, but I have pulled off as high as 19% for some campaigns).
                Last edited by Jon; 05-01-2004, 10:14 PM.
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                • BradM
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 3397

                  #9
                  Nite: You only say that cause you work for them. ;)

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                  • Jon
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 2578

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BradM
                    Nite: You only say that cause you work for them. ;)
                    Hahahahaa!!

                    I still use them for adult.. I've used OV, but their rates are insane, and Google actually rewards you for achieving a higher CTR.

                    Overture - The more you bid, the higher up on the site we'll put you, therefor more clicks! (and more money for us!)

                    AdWords - The higher your CTR, the less you have to pay, and the higher we'll put you on the AdWords SERPs. (we like relevancy and cash too to keep you happy!)

                    Google Wins!
                    WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                    • candidpublishinginc
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2001
                      • 707

                      #11
                      I remember there was a search engine (possibly goto) that showed what keywords surfers were searching for. So if you typed "sex" it would show all the sex combos out there.

                      Is there still anything like that out there?
                      Candid Clicks
                      Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic!
                      NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

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                      • BSleazy
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 6721

                        #12
                        My first PPC experience: Turned $100 into about $450
                        icq 156131086

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                        • Jon
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 2578

                          #13
                          Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
                          I remember there was a search engine (possibly goto) that showed what keywords surfers were searching for. So if you typed "sex" it would show all the sex combos out there.

                          Is there still anything like that out there?
                          Yes.

                          Overture (formerly GoTo)

                          http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/
                          WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                          • Jon
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 2578

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BCyber
                            My first PPC experience: Turned $100 into about $450
                            Which engine?
                            WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                            • Martin
                              "Assassins"
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 17274

                              #15
                              I always did pretty good sending right to the sponsor..

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                              • herbal logic
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 1172

                                #16
                                depends on keywords of course, But I've always found ppc management companies to be a good value. some keywords you can churn a few k a day...... if you don't watch it 24/7 you're screwed

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                                • Jon
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jun 2002
                                  • 2578

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Martin
                                  I always did pretty good sending right to the sponsor..
                                  It varies.. and also depends on the niche..

                                  For a tougher niche to convert, something like Teens you definitely need a buffer page, with something to catch the eye of the surfer who you just paid for, and to get them to clickthrough to the actual sponsor and hopefully convert.
                                  WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                                  • Jon
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2002
                                    • 2578

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by herbal logic
                                    depends on keywords of course, But I've always found ppc management companies to be a good value. some keywords you can churn a few k a day...... if you don't watch it 24/7 you're screwed
                                    Yeah that's about the only thing I still do for clients these days..
                                    WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                                    • candidpublishinginc
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 707

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                      Yes.

                                      Overture (formerly GoTo)

                                      http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/
                                      Awesome. Thanks.

                                      I heard google used to offer "special" ad campaigns for clients who spend more than $15k a month do they still do this?

                                      We will soon be testing out a new product never before seen by any surfer and we intend on buying at least $50 to $60 grand a month in traffic from various sources (search engine, TGP, etc).
                                      Candid Clicks
                                      Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic!
                                      NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

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                                      • Sly_RJ
                                        Live Hard - Die Hard
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 17042

                                        #20
                                        Do you guys only do PPS or can recurring work out well too? And if recurring does work, trial or no-trial?
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                                        sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

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                                        • ZeroFate
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Apr 2004
                                          • 257

                                          #21
                                          sly, if you want any ppc info you know you can fire off a message on icq.

                                          i'm willing to spill the beans to you because you're a cool guy.
                                          I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                          • candidpublishinginc
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Feb 2001
                                            • 707

                                            #22
                                            Oh I got another question.

                                            With google adwords can you buy click traffic from a certain country to better customize the ad?
                                            Candid Clicks
                                            Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic!
                                            NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

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                                            • Sly_RJ
                                              Live Hard - Die Hard
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 17042

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ZeroFate
                                              sly, if you want any ppc info you know you can fire off a message on icq.

                                              i'm willing to spill the beans to you because you're a cool guy.
                                              I'm going to take you up on your offer when I get back from Atlanta. There's something I want to conquer.

                                              Thanks!
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                                              sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

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                                              • bdld
                                                $100,000
                                                • Dec 2001
                                                • 11452

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
                                                Oh I got another question.

                                                With google adwords can you buy click traffic from a certain country to better customize the ad?
                                                yes you choose the countries where your ads are shown.

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                                                • Jon
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                  • 2578

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
                                                  Awesome. Thanks.

                                                  I heard google used to offer "special" ad campaigns for clients who spend more than $15k a month do they still do this?

                                                  We will soon be testing out a new product never before seen by any surfer and we intend on buying at least $50 to $60 grand a month in traffic from various sources (search engine, TGP, etc).
                                                  Google phased out the "sponsored listings" in Nov '03.. they are no longer accepting new advertisers, only AdWords, but if you are going to become a large advertiser, there are A LOT of "special treatment" perks for ya. ICQ me and I'll let you know.
                                                  WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                                                  • Ecstasy Glass
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 315

                                                    #26
                                                    The search term suggestion tool from overature is the shit.
                                                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                    • Jon
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                      • 2578

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Ecstasy Glass
                                                      The search term suggestion tool from overature is the shit.
                                                      Yeeeup!
                                                      WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                                                      • BSleazy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 6721

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                        Which engine?
                                                        Pay me $10,000/week to tell ya
                                                        icq 156131086

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                                                        • KaLi
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 4371

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by BradM
                                                          Okay, I know some of you fuckers don't like to share your tips. Try to keep them secret and stealth like.

                                                          Well I like to share mine ;)

                                                          How do YOU get your PPC traffic to convert? Do you send it right to the sponsor or do you send it to a gallery, or send it to an FPA?
                                                          An FPA with text? A gallery with pics or movies..?

                                                          These are just some questions you can quickly and generall answer.

                                                          Personally I make my title and description as non-clicky as possible, so only those who READ the whole thing will want to click. Once clicked they are sent to an FPA with text description. (almost like a review)

                                                          The other way I do it is to make a mini review site of a couple sites and let the surfer decide. I also throw on some upsells like pills, pumps and dating.

                                                          Also who do you use for your traffic?
                                                          Findwhat and sex.com are excellent ppc engines in my experience.

                                                          Don't be shy folks let's hear what you have to say.
                                                          You shouldve just asked me. I always kick ass in PPC

                                                          icq:160-417-630

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                                                          • ZeroFate
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 257

                                                            #30
                                                            PPC is great if you take the time to figure out what the hell you're doing. It's a mess if you just throw up an ad in 5 minutes. Im quietly going along making my $60 a day with some adwords campaigns that are literally running on auto-pilot.

                                                            I should get my ass in gear and expand!
                                                            I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                                            • BradM
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                              • 3397

                                                              #31
                                                              Zero: Sounds like you know what you're doing. Good on you.

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                                                              • candidpublishinginc
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                • 707

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                                Google phased out the "sponsored listings" in Nov '03.. they are no longer accepting new advertisers, only AdWords, but if you are going to become a large advertiser, there are A LOT of "special treatment" perks for ya. ICQ me and I'll let you know.
                                                                What is the difference between sponsored listings and adwords? Sure I'll fire off an ICQ to you.
                                                                Candid Clicks
                                                                Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic!
                                                                NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

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                                                                • candidpublishinginc
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 707

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ecstasy Glass
                                                                  The search term suggestion tool from overature is the shit.
                                                                  That sounds the only good thing overature has....or have they gotten a bit better?
                                                                  Candid Clicks
                                                                  Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic!
                                                                  NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!

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                                                                  • KaLi
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                                    • 4371

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by ZeroFate
                                                                    PPC is great if you take the time to figure out what the hell you're doing. It's a mess if you just throw up an ad in 5 minutes. Im quietly going along making my $60 a day with some adwords campaigns that are literally running on auto-pilot.

                                                                    I should get my ass in gear and expand!
                                                                    Hey Zero, hit me up on ICQ when you get a chance. Thanks!

                                                                    icq:160-417-630

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                                                                    • Jon
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                      • 2578

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
                                                                      What is the difference between sponsored listings and adwords? Sure I'll fire off an ICQ to you.
                                                                      Sponsored Listings appeared directly on top of the regular Google listings, usually in shaded colors such as green, purple, pink, blue..

                                                                      AdWords appear on the right hand side, maximum 8 boxes per page.

                                                                      The difference was budget I suppose. Sponsored listings were paid on a CPM basis of something like $15 (depends on the industry) and AdWords is strictly Pay Per Click.
                                                                      WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...

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                                                                      • ZeroFate
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                        • 257

                                                                        #36
                                                                        actually, you could get a sponsored listing if you had a REALLY good ctr. I used to run some mortgage campaigns and occasionally my ad made its way to to coveted colored box. Let me tell you though...it actually SUCKS. you get so many worthless clicks this way.
                                                                        I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                                                        • ZeroFate
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 257

                                                                          #37
                                                                          kali, ill msg you in the morning! (well, its 2:24am here, so it technically is morning..)

                                                                          Last edited by ZeroFate; 05-02-2004, 01:26 AM.
                                                                          I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                                                          • KaLi
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Aug 2003
                                                                            • 4371

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by ZeroFate
                                                                            kali, ill msg you in the morning! (well, its 2:24am here, so it technically is morning..)


                                                                            icq:160-417-630

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                                                                            • ZeroFate
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                              • 257

                                                                              #39
                                                                              if you guys want a really good tool for keyword research check out adwords analyzer. I use it, and it REALLY saves alot of time. Yes, im going to spam my ref code, but this tool will pay for itself after 2 signups and makes keyword research cake.

                                                                              ! spam !
                                                                              http://www.xybercode.com/ezGaffurl.p...jlesmith&pid=1
                                                                              ! spam !

                                                                              I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                                                              • gwilkins
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                                • 744

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Awesome info guys. You can have my first born in trade

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                                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                  • 40377

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV
                                                                                  Which engine?
                                                                                  better question: which year?
                                                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                    • 40377

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by NiteChatDotTV


                                                                                    Don't just churn out your messages on the fly, pick out some keywords, juice some cash into the campaign and let it rip. You will LOSE your investment. Take the time out, research your terms, make 1-2 ad groups per 10-15 keywords. Spread everything out, keep tabs on it constantly and aim for CTR's of 3% or higher just to start out with (my avg is 8%-11%, but I have pulled off as high as 19% for some campaigns).
                                                                                    You get 3 or even 10% ctr with Ad Words?
                                                                                    Must be with keywords that you are the only advertiser.
                                                                                    or you have ads that say "click heere for free teen sex".
                                                                                    But seriously, if you get such high CTR, you must be either using very rare keywords or be the top bidder for they keywords you bid for. And if you are bidding much, then you must have extremely detailed ad descriptions, stating the trial price etc.
                                                                                    And if you state the pice, then you wo't get such hight CTR...

                                                                                    so what i am missing ?
                                                                                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                      • 40377

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      To ZeroFate - i replied to your thread from 10 days ago and said i would ICQ you.
                                                                                      I had forgotten about that but i still have some questions...
                                                                                      I am not a totally newbie to PPC, but i want to ask you something about Ad Words, I hope you don't mind.
                                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                      • ZeroFate
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                                                        • 257

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        i am up for adwords discussion! i like helping some people not blow $1,000.

                                                                                        I just dont like posting EVERYTHING on a board in which 1,000,000 people read and can steal the good ideas.
                                                                                        I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                                                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                          • 40377

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by ZeroFate
                                                                                          i am up for adwords discussion! i like helping some people not blow $1,000.

                                                                                          I just dont like posting EVERYTHING on a board in which 1,000,000 people read and can steal the good ideas.
                                                                                          THANKS, I WILL ICQ YOU TOMMOROW, OK ?
                                                                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                          • rowan
                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                                                            • 17393

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            How do you guys get enough volume to be useful?

                                                                                            I haven't had much experience with PPC, but buying exclusively from google only I would have only made about 5-6 sales per month. The conversion rate was reasonable (I think it was about 1:120), but the clicks were sparse. A TGP gallery spot or two would have made more sales for a similar or lower advertising cost.

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                                                                                            • TGPslut
                                                                                              sell me your banners
                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                              • 12931

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Is anyone offering some 1on1 advice on PPC... AdWords preff.?

                                                                                              I've been running some campaigns but I think I'm doing something wrong... anyone willing to help me out?
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                                                                                              • ZeroFate
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Apr 2004
                                                                                                • 257

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                thats the only tough thing about adwords. Your click volume can be pretty low if your keywords are kinda rare. I generate about 300-400 clicks a day and pull in 2-3 sales. I'm looking for ways to expand but I dont like spending more that 6 cents a click.

                                                                                                $100 a day would make me happy. I'd be able to not have to work and focus on college, which is a bitch when you work all the damn time at some shitty job!
                                                                                                I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                                                                                • BradM
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                                  • 3397

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I've had adwords that click 5%. You just have to have a good set of keywords- and make the ad as targetted as possible.

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                                                                                                  • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Jul 2002
                                                                                                    • 40377

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                    THANKS, I WILL ICQ YOU TOMMOROW, OK ?
                                                                                                    shit, i live in the EU now and they are going to charge me VAT tax
                                                                                                    I don't own a company as of today, so i guess i won't be able to get it back.
                                                                                                    So i guess i have to forgot about Ad Words
                                                                                                    I don't use ICQ anymore.

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