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04-30-2004, 03:47 PM

If the Sinclair Broadcast Group's track record of political contributions is any indication, executives at the media group have allowed their own "political agenda" to dictate the decision to censor "Nightline." Sinclair executives give overwhelmingly to Republican causes and candidates. Of the top twenty TV and Radio companies to make political contributions in 2004, Sinclair Broadcasting Group is among the most conservative, giving 98 percent of its $65,434 in political contributions to GOP candidates. Sinclair CEO and President David Smith personally gave $2,000, the maximum individual contribution, to President Bush's 2004 re-election campaign.

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04-30-2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Gemini
'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger."

You quote from a small local dem group that made a commercial and didn't get approval from even their local county party leaders?

I could even forgive Bush for having something like THAT happening to him. lol

And sure, I agree, the network should send those tapes to allll the parents - fmailies and after their grieving is over and they can do an objective thought on the subject, hahahahaha down what changes they would like and send it back....

We can view the show in 2030.

I said it came from the Dem camp I didn't say it came from Kerry!

The Dems want to shoot rummy bummy!!!

So you don't think those familes would approve of this then? Then why do it? Seems mean to me if thats the case!
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04-30-2004, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Gemini
'This is one of our bad days,' and pull the trigger."

You quote from a small local dem group that made a commercial and didn't get approval from even their local county party leaders?

I could even forgive Bush for having something like THAT happening to him. lol

And sure, I agree, the network should send those tapes to allll the parents - fmailies and after their grieving is over and they can do an objective thought on the subject, hahahahaha down what changes they would like and send it back....

We can view the show in 2030.

I said it came from the Dem camp I didn't say it came from Kerry!

The Dems want to shoot rummy bummy!!!

So you don't think those familes would approve of this then? Then why do it? Seems mean to me if thats the case!
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04-30-2004, 11:36 PM

here's the list of all the casualties
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Pr...asualties.html

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05-01-2004, 01:00 AM

I heard they got a lot of negative feedbacks about this one.

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05-01-2004, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by theDUDE78
1st, this is the only WAR that names were shown like this. 9/11 was a different circumstance. i just wonder why they do this now, its not like a 1 yr anniversary, just something for sweeps im guessing.

the excuse is that its a 'tribute' because people don't see names, just numbers. i wonder who they ask but i for one see the faces/stories all the time. i see every other day the families being interviewed after a troops death.

ABC has an agenda and are using this to fan the flames to put an uglier face on the war. the people who use their power to not have it shown have an agenda to keep the bad perspective off the tv. both sides are scum, and society falls for both sides instead of condemming them all together. such bllshit.

no, it's not the only 'war' that names were shown like this, they broadcasted the names of casualties every night during the vietnam war.

I am an American, and I think it's obvious what our problem is. Americans aren't stupid, but they don't like to think, yet they love their opinions.

obviously showing the names of the dead on t.v. will be detrimental to the republican party as it will bring negative press to the "war" which they support. that is their interest in it. totally understandable. you would do the same for any organization you were in and believed in that promoted your interests.

the democratic party wants it to run, because that will serve their interest. it can be speculated the effect will be much the same as it was on the vietnam war. people who did not realize the amount of casualties or were not personally impacted might be, therefore discrediting the current administration and encouraging the desire for change.

people who think that showing the dead is distasteful or disrespectful by "using" the dead for political agendas aren't thinking of the bigger picture. if you're concerned with this think about the possible political motivations behind the war. that is the big picture, this is simply a detail.

stop being so concerned with democrats versus republicans, liberal versus conservative, american versus whoever. try to understand the motivations behind why the other side thinks the way they do. if you do that you realize how subjective everything is, and trying to convince people of your view is pointless, because they don't care about your view. they just want their turn to speak
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05-01-2004, 01:48 AM

why do they have to broadcast the list anyway?

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05-01-2004, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by Gemini
I'm sure the GFY repubs have a perfect explanation for this!

It's probably a National Security or Terrorist related issue. Or maybe NOT!

Shouldn't we be fair and allow them to open mouth and insert foot BEFORE calling them names?!

Well... All this one has to say is if you think ALL Repubs are exactly the same and believe and agree 100% with each other you are way too stupid to be running a computer.

Shall I go find something something some low-life Democrate has done and accuse you and every Democrate in the
country of being "scum" ?

Some of you guys seriously need some help with reality.

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05-01-2004, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by pure energy
why do they have to broadcast the list anyway?

One opinion is:

"Mr. Koppel and 'Nightline' are hiding behind this so-called tribute in an effort to highlight only one aspect of the war effort and in doing so to influence public opinion against the military action in Iraq,"

Politics. No other reason.

This sort of thing is NEVER done in the "middle" of a war when it is known there will be more dead the very next day. What about the guys killed next week - do their parents and loved ones get to hear their name read on TV?

If this was done after the war is really over, that would be a very different thing and I don't anyone would complain.

Politics - sick politics.

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05-01-2004, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by DavePlays
This sort of thing is NEVER done in the "middle" of a war

Written just a couple of posts after someone reminded you that names were read out each night during the Vietnam war. You have just illustrated perfectly the utter pointlessness of threads like this.

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05-01-2004, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by jayeff
Written just a couple of posts after someone reminded you that names were read out each night during the Vietnam war. You have just illustrated perfectly the utter pointlessness of threads like this.

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When God's on your side.

Nor apparently, when Dubya is on your side.

But they aren't going to do this every night are they?

So really, not quite the same thing. If they had been doing it every night this time, it would not look as much like an election year scheme.

So one must ask the question... why now? Why draw this line where they honor the fallen up to this date? Are the ones that die next week going to get a TV special by Ted Kopel where someone will read their name?

I just think it either should have waited, (but then it would have been after the election) or they should do it every night from now on. What is so unreasonable about that?

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05-01-2004, 04:39 AM

Daveplays... go for it. Dig up some demmie stuff. lol I may be forced to register as one party or another, but I don't ally myself with ANY party. I vote for who I think is best for the job.

This is the first time I have had the quandry of voting for someone who MAY not be up to the job 1000% but I *know* the other main candidate isn't for sure.

(Oh and Dave... learn to recognize tongue in cheek... k?) I *know* you appear to be a diehard repub. I was once too. Oops, I got thru the Reagan and Bush I years and realized some things. If Bush was soooo seriously in the right, he'd have been the FIRST on the phone to Sinclair, instead of letting McCain be the 'damage control spokesman'.

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BUT... it WAS fun to watch the other local news yesterday, showing all the protesters in front of http://www.wsyx6.com in the rain . Thats the local Sinclair channel that pulled the broadcast. The protestors read the names FOR Sinclair.

They DID however put on some goof that showed TONS of Dem people putting the facts from their prespective out there, in the nightline slot. In an effort to show they really were ONLY against the names being read. A little too late.

A Media outlet isn't supposed to censor due to personal feelings. These guys just lost a LOT of ABC ratings in this area. From repubs, dems and whatever other parties. I'm betting that there will be a loss to Sinclairs 24% of market share, in the next year as the Networks bring pressure to bear.

It's done... it's overwith. Sinclair brought more light on the story than they set out to do. So they lost in the long run.

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05-01-2004, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by DavePlays
But they aren't going to do this every night are they?

So really, not quite the same thing. If they had been doing it every night this time, it would not look as much like an election year scheme.

So one must ask the question... why now? Why draw this line where they honor the fallen up to this date? Are the ones that die next week going to get a TV special by Ted Kopel where someone will read their name?

I just think it either should have waited, (but then it would have been after the election) or they should do it every night from now on. What is so unreasonable about that?

let's assume that you are right daveplays and it is motivated purely by politics at nightline and abc news. ( i know this not to be the case for a fact, abc news dept has been historically conservative look at billl maher. look at who owns % of the abc markets - Sinclair. It is SINCLAIR that is motivated by politics, not Nightline. Look at his political contributions. Follow the money.)

Assuming that Nightline producers are trying to create a anti-war bias in it's programming...

in the interest of CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED FREE SPEECH shouldn't it be allowed to air? there is nothing obscene or vital to national security being shown. what is the problem with letting viewers make the choice? Can people who don't want to watch it simply not change the channel?

Or do you think God speaks through all republicans? Is everything a republican does right? Can't you agree that Nightline should not be consored in the interest of free speech?
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05-01-2004, 09:29 AM

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You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
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You ain't worth the blood
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All the money you made
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I will follow your casket
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And I'll watch while you're lowered
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05-01-2004, 09:32 AM

okay, first off, I am not a Republican, and I do not approve of the decision to not air Nightline to those 7 affiliates. . . . however, you can hardly blame Bush or the Republicans for this decision. It was a company decision.

That would be like blaming all of us for KP because we deal with porn.
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05-01-2004, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by baddog
okay, first off, I am not a Republican, and I do not approve of the decision to not air Nightline to those 7 affiliates. . . . however, you can hardly blame Bush or the Republicans for this decision. It was a company decision.

That would be like blaming all of us for KP because we deal with porn.

very true, but these decisions were handed down from the owners who have contributed to the Bush/Cheney campaign.
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05-01-2004, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by stevecore
very true, but these decisions were handed down from the owners who have contributed to the Bush/Cheney campaign.

Look, it is no secret that the ones that there was an agenda, both by ABC and by Sinclair, only an idiot would think otherwise and I know we don't have any of them here . . . but to blame ALL Republicans for the actions of a few is unreasonable.

Like blaming all pornographers for AIDS, or all bikers for the drug trade, or all blacks for murder, or all Mexicans for corruption.
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05-01-2004, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by baddog
Look, it is no secret that the ones that there was an agenda, both by ABC and by Sinclair, only an idiot would think otherwise and I know we don't have any of them here . . . but to blame ALL Republicans for the actions of a few is unreasonable.

Like blaming all pornographers for AIDS, or all bikers for the drug trade, or all blacks for murder, or all Mexicans for corruption.

Sinclair should take one for the team then and go on tv to apologize for his unamerican acitivities undermining the us constitution and then the rest of you republicans denounce him and his actions unequivocably.

But I don't see any of that..

with the exception of McCain ( god bless him)
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05-01-2004, 09:49 AM

Like blaming all pornographers for AIDS, or all bikers for the drug trade, or all blacks for murder, or all Mexicans for corruption.

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05-01-2004, 09:53 AM

Conan burned these guys last night.
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05-01-2004, 09:55 AM

Disgusting.
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05-01-2004, 11:27 AM

Before the bullshit rises over our heads, let's pretend that the majority of US mass media is not owned by Republican supporters. Let's pretend that it is somehow wrong if even once in a while a contrary view is presented: even incidentally.

That still leaves the question as to why this particular program is perceived by some as a threat to GW's election prospects.

Because it humanizes those who have died?

Isn't it bad enough that we de-humanize those who are the targets for our bombs and bullets? No matter what our political position, do we really want to go so far as to turn our own citizens into mere statistics?

There is no denying that if the US public is jolted out of its complacency about the number of American "statistics" being killed in Iraq, many voters may change their minds. But isn't that their right and proof that the system is working?

Sure, if we actually do care about our fellow citizens, more compelling arguments are going to be needed to keep our support for something that deprives others of their lives. Again, isn't that exactly how it should be?

If Republicans fear that support for the adventure in Iraq would melt away unless the American public is isolated from its realities, that is tantamount to admitting they are pursuing an action that an informed public would not sanction. When was the Constitution rewritten making our politicians anything other than our representatives?
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05-01-2004, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by m00d
Sinclair should take one for the team then and go on tv to apologize for his unamerican acitivities undermining the us constitution and then the rest of you republicans denounce him and his actions unequivocably.

But I don't see any of that..

with the exception of McCain ( god bless him)

I take it that you are not in favor of "Sinclair" exercising their right...and by exercising their right how is that "unamerican" and how is it "undermining the us constitution"?

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05-01-2004, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by m00d
then the rest of you republicans denounce him and his actions unequivocably.

since you are quoting me, I have to presume you are addressing me, and I will have to direct you to my first post where I stated I was not a Republican.
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05-01-2004, 05:23 PM

The ultimate Irony it seems the head of Sinclair who wants to decide for everybody else what they get to watch frequents prostitutes.

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Pennsylvania)

August 17, 1996, Saturday, SOONER EDITION

David D. Smith, president and chief executive officer of Sinclair Broadcast Group, was arrested this week in his hometown of Baltimore and charged with a misdemeanor sex offense. Sinclair owns WPGH, the Fox affiliate in Pittsburgh, and programs most of WPTT.

The Baltimore Sun reported that Smith, 45, was arrested Tuesday night in an undercover sting at a downtown corner frequented by prostitutes.

On Thursday night, Sinclair issued a statement that Smith's arrest was unrelated to company business and ''The company will continue to operate under the direction of its current management

Broadcasting official charged in sex stakeout
Sinclair president, woman arrested in company car

Published on: August 15, 1996
Edition: FINAL
Section: NEWS
Page: 2B
Byline: SUN STAFFPeter Hermann

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The president of Baltimore-based Sinclair Broadcast Group Inc., which owns the local Fox television affiliate, was arrested Tuesday night and charged with committing a perverted sex act in a company-owned Mercedes, city police said.

David Deniston Smith, 45, of the 800 block of Hillstead Drive in Timonium, who also is Sinclair's chief executive, was arrested in an undercover sting at Read and St. Paul streets, a downtown corner frequented by prostitutes, Baltimore police said yesterday.

Smith and Mary DiPaulo, 31, were charged with committing unnatural and perverted sex act. Smith was held overnight at the Central Booking and Intake Center and released on personal recognizance at 2 p.m. yesterday. DiPaulo's bail status was not available.

Officials at WBFF-TV (Fox 45) and Sinclair, one of the fastest-growing broadcasting companies in the nation with 28 television and 34 radio stations, would not comment yesterday. The company had $126 million in sales in the first half of this year.

Police said undercover Officer Gary Bowman, on a prostitution detail, was talking to DiPaulo about 9: 15 p.m. in a car at St. Paul and Read streets. She left the undercover car after telling Bowman that ``she had just seen her regular date driving in the area,'' according to court hahahahahahahahas.

Police said DiPaulo ran across the street to a 1992 Mercedes, registered to Sinclair, and got in on the passenger side. Police followed the car onto the Jones Falls Expressway, where they said they witnessed the two engage in oral sex while Smith drove north.

Police said they followed the car back to Read and St. Paul streets, where they arrested Smith and DiPaulo, who lives in the 700 block of Washington Blvd.

Just your typical Repuke they think they get to tell you what you can see, who you get have sex with, who you can marry , but when it comes to their own personal life those rules don?t apply to them.

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