Originally posted by Digipimp really could you post me some stats on cases of hiv caught via oral sex dumbass
Listen you dumb fuck you only know of cases in the industry not cases world wide. Doctors have stated HIV, herpes , HIV can be contracted from oral sex. I know many cases of STDs contracted thru bjs. The state at AIM all the time about that also. Ill send you medical info if you know how to fucking read.
Originally posted by SleazyDream the KEY word there is MOSTLY, it's still VERY possible to get aids/hiv from vaginal sex or oral sex. but there IS definatly an increased percentge change of catching it via anal penatration
well i believe your chances or catching the virus via oral or vaginal sex are very minimal unless you simply just do a whole whole whole lot of fucking. number one is anal sex, number two is sharing needles. still the overwhelming majority of cases are homosexual and or intravenous drug users.
the rate is growing in heterosexuals but at this point you have to be very very irresponsible to get it via regular heterosexual non anal sex, or just unlucky which would equate to winning the lottery.
Originally posted by Digipimp well i believe your chances or catching the virus via oral or vaginal sex are very minimal unless you simply just do a whole whole whole lot of fucking. number one is anal sex, number two is sharing needles. still the overwhelming majority of cases are homosexual and or intravenous drug users.
the rate is growing in heterosexuals but at this point you have to be very very irresponsible to get it via regular heterosexual non anal sex, or just unlucky which would equate to winning the lottery.
Whats the difference if its minimal... from what all you guys say , should be all condom if any chance at all. And all this condom shit... condoms break people !!
Originally posted by amacontent Listen you dumb fuck you only know of cases in the industry not cases world wide. Doctors have stated HIV, herpes , HIV can be contracted from oral sex. I know many cases of STDs contracted thru bjs. The state at AIM all the time about that also. Ill send you medical info if you know how to fucking read.
you can't send me medical info that doesn't exist you fucking tard. of course the disease can be transmitted through any sexual method, however cases of hiv transmitted through oral sex would be less than 1% so tell me how a 1% of 1/10 of 1% is a high risk situation? it's not unless you just do a lot of fucking. now if fucking is your biz and you don't protect yourself then you're just fucking stupid and it's your own fault for getting something like this.
with that being said I still don't wish it on anyone but accept responsiblity of your own irresponsibility.
Originally posted by amacontent And all this condom shit... condoms break people !!
When used properly, they are 98-100% effective. If used in conjunction with testing, the odds of being infected are next to nothing.
Yes, sure... sometimes condoms break, but that's usually due to cheap condoms or improper usage. So, let's say you have a really big cock... or you buy your condoms at the dollar store... or you just don't know how to put it on right... and let's say 1 out of 10 times the condom breaks. If you had sex with 100 people last month, without a condom, you would have possibly been exposed 100 times. With the condom, that number would be 10.... and that number would be remarkably lower if people would buy quality condoms and learn how to use them.
Yes, I'm making up figures here, just trying to make it a bit easier for the feeble minded to comprehend.
Jessica is a good friend and a strong girl. She told me friday that this was all overwhelming to her, but that she'd be strong with it. She was gonna test again for her second time this past weekend (her first test was negative) and that she'd call me this week to help her shoot some content for her website. She was getting alot of supporting email from her fans and would continue with the site no matter what. She said she'd call, but if she came out positive, she didnt know if she would be giving me that call. My phone hasnt rang.
This girl is no junkie...no drugs , no abuse of alcohol... the ultimate proffessional. She has he own agency in the Czech and has been very smart with her money. I am deeply saddend, but i know she'll be ok, and make a new life for herself. Even though i've only been shooting for a year and a half, she is the absolute best performer i have shot to date. Hands down amazing. I say this all the time, i wish more girls held the sexual energy that Jessica has once that camera rolls. I'm glad to know her, and will continue to give her all the support she needs.
Originally posted by Digipimp you can't send me medical info that doesn't exist you fucking tard. of course the disease can be transmitted through any sexual method, however cases of hiv transmitted through oral sex would be less than 1% so tell me how a 1% of 1/10 of 1% is a high risk situation? it's not unless you just do a lot of fucking. now if fucking is your biz and you don't protect yourself then you're just fucking stupid and it's your own fault for getting something like this.
with that being said I still don't wish it on anyone but accept responsiblity of your own irresponsibility.
Get off this board you whore. We make our living doing this and there are tens of thousands of scenes shot a month unprotected. And now you crticize the way people supply content that makes you money. Get off the boards asshole. How come you never said shit before this incidsent happened. Be a man and go to LA and tell that to Jessicas face and ill watch her kick your ass
Originally posted by Digipimp well i believe your chances or catching the virus via oral or vaginal sex are very minimal unless you simply just do a whole whole whole lot of fucking. number one is anal sex, number two is sharing needles. still the overwhelming majority of cases are homosexual and or intravenous drug users.
the rate is growing in heterosexuals but at this point you have to be very very irresponsible to get it via regular heterosexual non anal sex, or just unlucky which would equate to winning the lottery.
Chances to get HIV through oral are really low. I know we discussed it in my class when the Barcelona AIDS conference was held in 2002. It exists but chances of it are REALLY low. Heres the study in question...
A very small proportion of persons seeking HIV testing engage exclusively in receptive oral intercourse . The very low probability of HIV infection in this sample confirms that orally acquired HIV infection is a rare event. The population attributable risk % for HIV due to receptive oral intercourse is 0.56% or less. Since a smaller fraction (35%) of those who practice oral have exposure to semen in the mouth, the actual population attributable risk % is likely to be lower.
Hmm only 5.. 20% chance of a male contracting from a female...
mmh.. im pretty sure its 1%... A guy need to have a leision on his dick to get it... do you have any links backing your number..? (you might be right though...)
We all knows she did anal, as do hundreds of others. How come now everyone is speaking all this crap as she gets what she deservses. Especially you digi pimp. All you people love your money making sites and love the scenes provided to you but scream that everyone is fucked up on how the performers who make you money are crazy for shooting the content that makes you money. If you FUCKERS are so dead against non condom shoots, only put those types scenes up. Ill see how many take all the non condom shoots off their sites... HA i dont think so.
How come people didnt say anything 2 months ago. There was the Mark Wallace incident in 1999. Whats different then than now. Seems like everyone forgot as I dont remember seeing any shit about condom use on the boards a month ago , a year ago , 2 years ago.
Originally posted by SL|M! Chances to get HIV through oral are really low. I know we discussed it in my class when the Barcelona AIDS conference was held in 2002. It exists but chances of it are REALLY low. Heres the study in question...
A very small proportion of persons seeking HIV testing engage exclusively in receptive oral intercourse . The very low probability of HIV infection in this sample confirms that orally acquired HIV infection is a rare event. The population attributable risk % for HIV due to receptive oral intercourse is 0.56% or less. Since a smaller fraction (35%) of those who practice oral have exposure to semen in the mouth, the actual population attributable risk % is likely to be lower.
Very good point Slim, but all these people saying there is no chance of contracting HIV with condom use... you use a very small percentage can contract by oral. OK so how many HIV positives in the last 25 years in the adult industry... and in how many scenes have been shot in those 25 years. Seems like the percentage is very very "SLIM "
i pray you're not lumping me in with that statement, i've always paid the same for condom or non-condom shoots and never forced the issue, and never asked for anal either - all vaginal. I prefer non condom but will take condom.
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Originally posted by amacontent Very good point Slim, but all these people saying there is no chance of contracting HIV with condom use... you use a very small percentage can contract by oral. OK so how many HIV positives in the last 25 years in the adult industry... and in how many scenes have been shot in those 25 years. Seems like the percentage is very very "SLIM "
Theres always a chance no matter what. They key is to lower the risks as much as we can. Testing every 30 days reduced the risk since the last outbreak was 1998-1999. Condoms will lower them even more. Only fail safe method is abstinence.
STD is the risk that porn actors take, everyone knows that. So you have to live with them and accept the risk. Cabbies risk getting mugged and lawyers risk going to hell, u just gotta live with your choices. Pretty simple if u ask me....
Originally posted by SleazyDream i pray you're not lumping me in with that statement, i've always paid the same for condom or non-condom shoots and never forced the issue, and never asked for anal either - all vaginal. I prefer non condom but will take condom.
Originally posted by SL|M! Theres always a chance no matter what. They key is to lower the risks as much as we can. Testing every 30 days reduced the risk since the last outbreak was 1998-1999. Condoms will lower them even more. Only fail safe method is abstinence.
STD is the risk that porn actors take, everyone knows that. So you have to live with them and accept the risk. Cabbies risk getting mugged and lawyers risk going to hell, u just gotta live with your choices. Pretty simple if u ask me....
YEs I 100% agree with your statements. I know the risks I take. I dont use condoms and if God means it to be something happen , then it will.
Originally posted by Jimmy Lifestyles Jessica is a good friend and a strong girl. She told me friday that this was all overwhelming to her, but that she'd be strong with it. She was gonna test again for her second time this past weekend (her first test was negative) and that she'd call me this week to help her shoot some content for her website. She was getting alot of supporting email from her fans and would continue with the site no matter what. She said she'd call, but if she came out positive, she didnt know if she would be giving me that call. My phone hasnt rang.
This girl is no junkie...no drugs , no abuse of alcohol... the ultimate proffessional. She has he own agency in the Czech and has been very smart with her money. I am deeply saddend, but i know she'll be ok, and make a new life for herself. Even though i've only been shooting for a year and a half, she is the absolute best performer i have shot to date. Hands down amazing. I say this all the time, i wish more girls held the sexual energy that Jessica has once that camera rolls. I'm glad to know her, and will continue to give her all the support she needs.
I agree 100%
I shot her for my site 4 years ago.
Hard link in my members area - no referal code - 100% to her.
Originally posted by amacontent Get off this board you whore. We make our living doing this and there are tens of thousands of scenes shot a month unprotected. And now you crticize the way people supply content that makes you money. Get off the boards asshole. How come you never said shit before this incidsent happened. Be a man and go to LA and tell that to Jessicas face and ill watch her kick your ass
uh how about you suck my dick, oh wait i don't want hiv, nevermind
the ONLY good thing about these performers actually knowing they are positive is that IF they take a proactive approach and get on the right meds right now, and get into some lifestyle changes there is a strong possibility they can survive long enough to see the cure for aids.
this scenario was not true a few years back.
i believe the cure will be here within 5-7 years.
these people need to plan to stay healthy for at least that long.
Originally posted by latinasojourn the ONLY good thing about these performers actually knowing they are positive is that IF they take a proactive approach and get on the right meds right now, and get into some lifestyle changes there is a strong possibility they can survive long enough to see the cure for aids.
this scenario was not true a few years back.
i believe the cure will be here within 5-7 years.
these people need to plan to stay healthy for at least that long.
Very good point... i believe a cure will come also.
It`s true. We can`t start bitching about protected vs. un-protected sex in this industry. Afterall, we all profit from it and since condoms are such a fuckig issue with raincoaters.... I think it`s a safe bet that there will always be someone producing comdomless content.
I`m just sadden by some of attitudes in the industry. IE: "Stupid whore knew the risks of taking 2 cocks up her ass."
People that talk like that need to remember that same "stupid whore" is what puts food on our table and a roof over our heads.
Pain in the ass
ps. Two years ago I knew a girl that got HIV from oral sex. She had problems with her wisdom teeth and was bitting the sides of her checks Unknown to her, the cuts were slightly infected and when she blow a guy contracted the disease. What makes it worse was the pop shot was on her tits not her mouth. (Everyone underestimates the power of pre-cum)
EVeryone listen, this situation sux,,, but Jessica is very strong and does not want people to feel sorry for her. She said she knew the risks in this buisness as there are risks in alot of careers.. but she is not going to die next week from this and will continue working in this buisness. She will be working extra hard on www.jessicadeexxx.com now and finding other avenues to work in this industry. She is extremely positive.. more than I imagined.. and realizes life will go on.
I'm In Complete shock .. It seems that there are alot of pieces missing in this Puzzle ... Joe, I thought you had said in a previous Post that jessica had already gone thru Two tests and came back Negitive? What was the date of these tests? ANd why haven't they announced the test results from Mark AnThony? He had sex on the 24th (i think) with Lara? Something is not kosher here ..
I fear things will get worsts before they get better ...
My heart and Preyers go out to Jessica and her family
Originally posted by Digipimp well i believe your chances or catching the virus via oral or vaginal sex are very minimal unless you simply just do a whole whole whole lot of fucking. number one is anal sex, number two is sharing needles. still the overwhelming majority of cases are homosexual and or intravenous drug users.
the rate is growing in heterosexuals but at this point you have to be very very irresponsible to get it via regular heterosexual non anal sex, or just unlucky which would equate to winning the lottery.
Well, I was behind you on the oral sex thing. Until this statement.
First, is intravenous drug users not anal sex. Second is anal sex then male to female vaginally. Though there isn't much difference. Female to male is much more difficult.
As for oral sex - yes there are trace amounts of the virus in saliva but it severly weakened. But there are no reported cases of someone contracting the virus by receiving a blowjob. There are a few reported cases of contracting the virus of giving oral sex (pussy eating or blowjobs), but they are very suspect because the saliva and stomach acids do break down the virus. The culprit in these circumstances are believed to be open sores in the mouth.
Originally posted by vidvicious I'm In Complete shock .. It seems that there are alot of pieces missing in this Puzzle ... Joe, I thought you had said in a previous Post that jessica had already gone thru Two tests and came back Negitive? What was the date of these tests? ANd why haven't they announced the test results from Mark AnThony? He had sex on the 24th (i think) with Lara? Something is not kosher here ..
I fear things will get worsts before they get better ...
My heart and Preyers go out to Jessica and her family
Vid, the second test came back negative on Teusday from DNA checks but I guess they checked RNA and came back positive on Wed. Im really not sure why they decided to give her negative results back on Teusday then call her Wed and say shes positive , but thats what happened
Originally posted by amacontent Vid, the second test came back negative on Teusday from DNA checks but I guess they checked RNA and came back positive on Wed. Im really not sure why they decided to give her negative results back on Teusday then call her Wed and say shes positive , but thats what happened
Originally posted by djdez Well, I was behind you on the oral sex thing. Until this statement.
First, is intravenous drug users not anal sex. Second is anal sex then male to female vaginally. Though there isn't much difference. Female to male is much more difficult.
As for oral sex - yes there are trace amounts of the virus in saliva but it severly weakened. But there are no reported cases of someone contracting the virus by receiving a blowjob. There are a few reported cases of contracting the virus of giving oral sex (pussy eating or blowjobs), but they are very suspect because the saliva and stomach acids do break down the virus. The culprit in these circumstances are believed to be open sores in the mouth.
Trust me I know what I'm talking about, and you're wrong. Here you go this is the government stat on cumulative cases and the #1 reported method of transmission is male to male sex, not intravenous drug use.
I would also say that when your profession is having sex, then you're number 1 risk is STD's and if you aren't doing everything possible to protect yourself from STD's then you are taking a huge risk on. These girls take this huge risk on for one reason and that's greed, they want more money. So I don't feel sorry for them, I don't feel sorry for people who take on huge risks for money and end up with trouble. But I don't wish it on anyone, nor do I think anyone deserves to have this happen to them.
HIV/AIDS is an easily preventable disease and one that grows because of lack of knowledge. HIV/AIDS is not a crisis in most of the civilized world because we have plenty of information and it is largely easily preventable. Where HIV/AIDS is a crisis is in poor nations and largely Africa because of the lack of education on the disease.
My curiousity is this -- did Jessica do an anal scene with Darren James, and if so, how long after he was in Brazil? If she did not, then just what did she do? Since the movies have not, and probably never will be (in the sense of taste and class if nothing else) released, the questions don't necessarily have a specific answer as they stand today.
Say what you want about this, but at the end of the day, something is badly either technologically lacking in the technology of the testing, or someone's not telling the truth. If the virus is as hard to transmit as is claimed overall, then perhaps it's something that the content side of the business needs to understand more specifically in regards to the periods when it is most transmittable, like herpes.
I feel for every one of these performers to the depths of my heart, but something isn't adding up here if you do the math.
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