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Would it be more effective to link to join page from galleries/freesites or to tour?

01-18-2005, 02:54 PM

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If is more effective to link to the site tour or site join page from a freesite or gallery.

I mean, the surfer has probably already seen enough porn for the day and if you link him to the tour he is going to see even more of it from free trailers and etc, so is it okay to just link him to the join page with text saying something like

"See full movies.... Join for only $4.95....yada yada yada"

Would that have a more chance of a signup or would it piss him off that he already has to whip out a CC and just exit the page.

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01-18-2005, 02:55 PM

What do your stats say?

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01-18-2005, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Meta Ridley

What do your stats say?

10%-12% CTR from gallery to sponsor
20% CTR from front page to join page
1:50 ratio (second page hits)

If that helps

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01-18-2005, 03:04 PM

God forbid anyone posts in a biz related thread at GFY

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01-18-2005, 03:05 PM

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01-18-2005, 03:11 PM

May or may not work well. Its one of those ponderables that you must test for yourself. Trying to state what your traffic to your galleries will do given the choice, is just about impossible to predict.
Would not know if your gallery was as good as it could be and if it really sold the site or not.
Would not know if the tour could turn them off or finalize the sale.

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01-18-2005, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by kaliboy2g

10%-12% CTR from gallery to sponsor
20% CTR from front page to join page
1:50 ratio (second page hits)

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so you make 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors? interresting
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01-18-2005, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

so you make 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors? interresting

Wait hang on. That cant be right.
Give me a min. I did this off the top of my head

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01-18-2005, 03:26 PM

Originally posted by kaliboy2g

Wait hang on. That cant be right.
Give me a min. I did this off the top of my head

Lol for starters its 1:150 Although i wish i had 1:50

And seconldy to be more exact the CTR from front page to second page is 14.6%

So that amounts to 9 sales per 100k

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01-18-2005, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

so you make 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors? interresting

He said 1:50 2nd page hit count that could be eqv of 1:5000 1st page hit count so no, he doesn't get 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors nevertheless, 10-12% CTR from gallie to sponsor is more than awesome if it's for real

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01-18-2005, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by kaliboy2g

Lol for starters its 1:150 Although i wish i had 1:50

And seconldy to be more exact the CTR from front page to second page is 14.6%

So that amounts to 9 sales per 100k

1 sale out of 10k gallery visitors is good, you know, change nothing that works. If it stop, then start doing tests.
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01-18-2005, 03:32 PM

Link to a join I think. Like you said they have seen porn all day, why not give them the end result.

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01-18-2005, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by seven

He said 1:50 2nd page hit count that could be eqv of 1:5000 1st page hit count so no, he doesn't get 40 sales out of 100k gallery visitors nevertheless

he said the CTR to the join page is 20%, that means 250 1st page hits. But he corrected his numbers now.

btw 5000 1st page hits and 50 2nd page is so bad, I cant imagine a paysite with such low CTR
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01-18-2005, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

1 sale out of 10k gallery visitors is good, you know, change nothing that works. If it stop, then start doing tests.

Right, but this is freesites. If i got 1sale out of 10k that hit the warning page i would shut up and count my checks.

The CTR is from the gallery which means the surfer has to go through the warning page and the main page before he hits a gallery so its not 1 per 10k that hit the freesite it can be as much as one per 17k-20k that hit the freesite which is the average.

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01-18-2005, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

he said the CTR to the join page is 20%, that means 250 1st page hits. But he corrected his numbers now.

btw 5000 1st page hits and 50 2nd page is so bad, I cant imagine a paysite with such low CTR

No, out of 5k front page hits i get about 1k second page hits which i think is good.

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01-18-2005, 03:39 PM

Thats why i think if i link to the main page with a text that tells the surfer the exact price i would generate more sales, and since i get a PPS fee that is 7x the amount of the trial cost i have nothing to lose.

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01-18-2005, 03:40 PM

My best sales came from sending them from a gallery page to an aggressive fpa/hpa or tour I built myself and then directly to a jon page.

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01-18-2005, 03:41 PM

careful, just posting questions like these have resulted in terminated partner accounts :O

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01-18-2005, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by kaliboy2g

Right, but this is freesites. If i got 1sale out of 10k that hit the warning page i would shut up and count my checks.

The CTR is from the gallery which means the surfer has to go through the warning page and the main page before he hits a gallery so its not 1 per 10k that hit the freesite it can be as much as one per 17k-20k that hit the freesite which is the average.

well, if its free site gallery, you can afford more links, so just use both, link to a tour and also to the join page directly
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01-18-2005, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

My best sales came from sending them from a gallery page to an aggressive fpa/hpa or tour I built myself and then directly to a jon page.

yes, good FPA-> join page works!
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01-18-2005, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

he said the CTR to the join page is 20%, that means 250 1st page hits.

He said 20% to join page does not necessarily mean 20% to 2nd page too. You could have a 100 links going to join page from 1st page but only 1 link going to 2nd page from 1st page would make a big diff in CTR. I know some major sponsors that do 1% 1st to 2nd page but 20% 1st to join

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01-18-2005, 03:46 PM

I tend to link to a fpa

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01-18-2005, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by seven

He said 20% to join page does not necessarily mean 20% to 2nd page too. You could have a 100 links going to join page from 1st page but only 1 link going to 2nd page from 1st page would make a big diff in CTR. I know some major sponsors that do 1% 1st to 2nd page but 20% 1st to join

Im sure he meant 2nd page with join page hits in this case. I dont mean billing join page now, just the paysite join page with some info, pre-filled forms, etc
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01-18-2005, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by Pornopat

I tend to link to a fpa

I also tend to do the same. Results will very with different techniques.
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01-18-2005, 05:04 PM

I think im going to try the link to fpa and then join page.
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01-18-2005, 05:13 PM

i use join links on my hub with sales text that says "3 Day Trial-$4.75" blah blah blah
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01-18-2005, 05:47 PM

Sometimes it works really well. This is from about 10k hits to the main page of freesite. you tweak it and find perfection

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01-18-2005, 05:49 PM

Tour but wtf do i know
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01-18-2005, 08:25 PM

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Tour but wtf do i know

God you're a pathetic sigwhore

For those that use the Freesite to FPA to Join page.

How much traffic do you lose on the FPA part.

Whts the CTR from the FPA to the join?

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01-18-2005, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by kaliboy2g

God you're a pathetic sigwhore

For those that use the Freesite to FPA to Join page.

How much traffic do you lose on the FPA part.

Whts the CTR from the FPA to the join?

This is what I wanna know too...FPA just seems like a way to make people go through an extra step, only to produce better conversions, but less sales.

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01-18-2005, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by QualityMpegs

This is what I wanna know too...FPA just seems like a way to make people go through an extra step, only to produce better conversions, but less sales.

I would rather send 5k direct to a join page and convert 1:500 and make ten sales

Then send 5k to an FPA and get 2.5k to the join page and convert at 1:300 which means less sales.

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01-18-2005, 08:56 PM

I'd say send them to a tour (bypassing warning page ofcourse) better yet make your own tour linked to sponsor join form if you are serious about certain sponsor. TGP surfers would like to sample much, they'd wanna know precisely what to expect inside.. they've seen tons of worthless sites and want to limit the wasting of their money so show them some real samples of what your sponsor offers

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