IRAQ - The REAL Story!!!

wooohoo I wonder how Bush got this propaganda spread


I can see him typing this up and sending it to his forwards list

**WARNING**

this thread smels bullshit

How much you want to bet Ray Reynolds isnt real . lol

So someone gives you this one supposed person spilling the beans and you believe it?

Are the stats listed in the email real though?


If they are, that's all that really matters.

much like all the anti-bush books being released recently... people will believe anything.

aint sanctions a bitch.

I dont think it matters if the numbers are real, its all stuff that doesnt mention how many people have been killed and all the rebels and violence still going on.. and it was obviously written several months ago

This is a joke right?

If that's true, there's only what.. 23 million people still waiting for clean drinking water?

Girls were allowed to attend school in Iraq while Saddam was president. Iraq was a securlar society, unlike most of the Middle East.

Most of the others can probably be disproven as well if anyone cares to take the time to do some research.

the guy is real.. someone just put his name to this fluff piece.

Ray Reynolds IS real do a google image search

Here he is

Slight correction: If you hate Bush, then only the bad negative stuff matters. None of the good that may be true in that email will matter and will be swept under the carpet.



I think they really should get some credible people who have first-hand knowledge of the past 6 months in Iraq, get them on tv and let's hear what they have to say about what good if any has taken place over there. I'm sure many people would be surprised to hear what reality is rather than the fantasy that most have themselves believing.

Not only bad things result from the war. What he listed happened before the war even began!

what happened in iraq was all for the good

Alot of people couldn't give a shit if some things are 'better' now in Iraq than they were before the war. Many people disagree with the war in general weather or not it is for the greater good, some people disagree with this method of resolution and i guess they're entitled to, just as anyone is entitled to agree with it.

There's nothing wrong in trying to look at the brigher side of things!

* Over 400,000 kids have up-to-date immunizations.

After 10 years of sanctions not permitting medication to be
imported this is a good start.

* School attendance is up 80% from levels before the war.

Does this include the schools that are being used as HQ's for US
troops? Like the one in Faluja that the locals asked them to move
out of, civilians then protested, and who were then shot. Thus
being part of the flair up of problems in that area.

* Over 1,500 schools have been renovated and rid of the weapons stored there so education can occur.

So education can occur or so that people can't get their hands on
the weapons? What about those schools in remote areas with
weapons in them which were just exploded outright?

* The port of Uhm Qasar was renovated so grain can be off-loaded from ships faster.

Cool now the US farmers that have politically gained tenders for
this work can go ahead making money.

* The country had its first 2 billion barrel export of oil in August.

Wonder what this war was about.....

* Over 4.5 million people have clean drinking water for the first time ever in Iraq.

Great.... Now the US can stop using it as a weapon by turning it
off to areas as a negotiation tactic.

* The country now receives 2 times the electrical power it did before the war.

Was this after the first gulf war where 2 nuclear power stations
were bombed and the whole grid shorted out by dropping "steel
wool" from bombers?

* 100% of the hospitals are open and fully staffed, compared to 35% before the war.

These would be all those hospitals that Saddam the evil one built
before the first Gulf war right?

* Elections are taking place in every major city, and city councils are in place.

Really?

* Sewer and water lines are installed in every major city.

Does that include the areas that have been sealed off in modern
time sieges? Like Faluja where power and water have been cut
and civilians are being stopped from leaving the city?

* Over 60,000 police are patrolling the streets.
* Over 100,000 Iraqi civil defense police are securing the country.
* Over 80,000 Iraqi soldiers are patrolling the streets side by side with US soldiers.
* Over 400,000 people have telephones for the first time ever.

These the ones that said, "fuck it" and joined their countrymen?

* Students are taught field sanitation and hand washing techniques to prevent the spread of germs.

Like the addition of this one? because everyone knows Arabs are
dirty animals that have just crawled outta caves. pfft.

* An interim constitution has been signed.

Guess that's great? Should give them a bill of rights and a flag
with stars and stripes too.

* Girls are allowed to attend school.

Guess Saddam did a good thing allowing this.

* Textbooks that don't mention Saddam are in the schools for the first time in 30 years.

Good thing they are allowed to import stuff again?.

Funny..... This doesn't say anything about increases in Leukaemia
form the tons of DU being used, or the hundreds of thousands
that have died as a result of sanctions.

We all know that this war was about Liberation of the Iraqi
people. Because Bush is such a nice man, he couldn't stand to
see people suffer.

-Ben

Who ever said Iraq has none of those?

You mean all for Bush and Friends?

Nice post Ben!





Now check your email please.

Chain letters just like this have been circulating around the internet for many months, with a variety of names and backstories attached to lend a sense of credibility where there is none.

Pornwolf must have missed your email....
There are a few I've put aside for later too....

ICQ: 10638430
MSN: [email protected]
AIM: mryellow123
Y!: mryellow123

-Ben

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2003/1208/043_print.html

One of the problems of our postwar results in Iraq is that most of the principal U.S. press outlets have been reporting, to the exclusion of almost anything else, the negative events since our military stunningly toppled Saddam Hussein's brutal regime. It's time to redress the balance and present our readers with some facts that demonstrate how well America's goals in Iraq are being achieved.

Let's begin by acknowledging that all is not perfect in Iraq. Crime rates are high, almost as high as New York City's. Our forces have had to deal with the depredation and senseless destruction loosed on the country by some 100,000 of Iraq's criminals, whom Saddam released from jail shortly before our troops went in.

What we are seeing now is the uniform disdain and ill-founded criticisms of those who opposed the war from the beginning; those who, because of next year's presidential election, oppose everything the Administration or President Bush does or says; and those countries, such as France and Germany, that are angered by any suggestion of American success anywhere and which fear their huge and improvident prewar loans to Iraq may not be repaid. Many of these countries are also motivated by equally tawdry reasons of trade.

But despite all the negative reportage there is a great deal of good news--especially for those who hope to see a free and democratically led Iraq living in peace with itself and its neighbors.

Education

Nearly all of Iraq's schools are open, and data from 10 of the primary and secondary schools showed an encouraging increase in enrollment. All 22 universities and 43 technical institutes are also open. In October universities received 1,500 computers, and South Korea is helping establish Internet centers.

Teachers now earn 12 to 25 times their former salaries. The Economist reported that before the war a Baghdad primary school teacher was paid the equivalent of $6 a month; her husband, a factory overseer, earned $13 a month. Today their combined monthly income is close to $450; for the first time they are able to buy many standard consumer goods.

Public Health

All 240 hospitals and 1,200 primary health clinics are open. Spending for public health is more than 26 times what it was during Saddam's regime, and doctors' salaries are 8 times what they were. More than 22 million vaccine doses have been given to children, and more than two-thirds of drinking water supplies have been restored.

Security

By Oct. 24 we had trained some 85,500 Iraqis: 55,000 police; 6,400 border guards; an 18,700-man Facilities Protection Corps; 700 new Iraqi Army graduates, with the goal of 27 battalions trained in a year; a 4,700-man Civil Defense Corps; and an additional 10,000 Iraqis in training for these forces. In addition, 32 countries have more than 24,000 troops on the ground in Iraq, including the Polish-led forces that are in command of the south-central part of the country.

Our training and recruiting personnel have had to deal with the fact that, in order to survive, most Iraqis had to have had some association with or given some support to Saddam and his Baathist Party regime. It is therefore slow work ensuring that those we are training are suitable for the work in the new Iraq.

Public Services

Years of neglect wreaked major damage on Iraqi water, power and sewerage systems. All are being repaired and improved. Oil production, even from oilfields urgently in need of modernization following decades of calculated neglect, averaged 1.9 million barrels a day in October and is moving closer to the prewar level of 3 million.

Power generation reached 4,518 megawatts of electricity in early October, compared with 300 megawatts, prewar. Three-fourths of the prewar level of telephone service has been restored.

The courts are in session, and some 50,000 claims against the old government have been filed with the bar association.

A new currency has been issued and the independent central bank opened two months after the war ended. It took three years for post-WWII occupied Germany to do this.

The Future

On July 13 Coalition Provisional Authority Administrator Paul Bremer appointed the all-Iraqi Governing Council. On Nov. 15 the CPA and the Council committed to a political timetable for Iraq. As the White House announced, the plan "meets a key mutual objective of the Coalition and the Iraqi people: the restoration of sovereignty to a body chosen by the citizens of Iraq and based in a legal framework. It also commits Iraq to a process for drafting a permanent, democratic constitution that protects the rights of all citizens."

On Nov. 6 President Bush signed the Iraq and Afghanistan supplemental appropriations bill into law. This will bring $87 billion to our global war on terror. It will help support our servicemen and -women with weapons, equipment and salaries; build stable democratic societies in these two countries, as well as train and equip those citizens who are fighting to defend and secure their rights; upgrade schools and hospitals; and repair infrastructure and improve services, such as water, electricity and sanitation.

It wasn't until last month that papers began reporting on the progress that's been made in Iraq. We must keep in mind that it has been only seven months since our military brought down Saddam and that it will take time for the Iraqis to build the foundation for a free, self-governing country.