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  • fedfest
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 1334
    #1

    VEROTEL Is STEALING your best traffic !!

    IMO what they are really doing here is trying to make a shitload of money off our traffic..

    Try to look at what kind of free traffic they get get for the tickets club..

    1. Your 'members login trafic' - every curious surfer that checks that link on your site goes to a site promising 25% discounts and '1000's of sites every day'.. think the surfer would click back to your site, or join through the tickets club ?


    2. Your join page traffic - So you got joe surfer right where you wan't him, with his dick in one hand and his CC in the other..
    So what on the join page.. a cryptic text stating that
    Note that everytime you want to revisit the website of choice, you will have to visit http://www.ticketsclub.com
    Now i would think WTF does that mean?? and click on that link, before i signed up for anything, if i was joe surfer..


    3. Your Members - I'm sure anyone knows that preaproved traffic is some of the best traffic you can get, just look at your sales ratios from AVS and upsells from paysites.. Here they are putting every member site into a frame with their add on it.. this is fucking genious.. Only it's Our members and potential rebills they are using for this..

    Btw.. I mentioned that the surfer propably would not go back to your site to join after seeing the tickets club... Guess what, even if he wanted to he couldn't cause THEY DISABLED THE BACK BUTTON .. That's fucking HIGHJACKING your own traffic right in front of your nose when their sitting with the CC in their hand ready to join !!

    Imo. they designed this whole system for one purpose only, to steal our traffic and make a load of money on it.. Sure they might send you some traffic and make you some joins, but who's traffic are they sending ? I never heard them say anything about them putting any traffic into the system, so the only traffic for those joins will be what we ourselfs 'put into it' , or rather the traffic they can steal from us.. and that we now pay 50% + 14% for !!!

    Way to go Verotel.. Now i'm off to signup for another prosessor !!
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    • doober
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 6984
      #2
      but but but......

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        • Dailydiapers
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2003
          • 1080
          #3
          The ticketclub is basically an AVS service, like AdultCheck - You want full 3rd party you need to go Verotel Pro (Even if you make under $1,000 a week, you can elect to go Pro.)
          Mike
          http://www.dailydiapers.com/

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            • PMdave
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              • Dec 2003
              • 1517
              #4
              Originally posted by fedfest

              Way to go Verotel.. Now i'm off to signup for another prosessor !!
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                • fedfest
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2002
                  • 1334
                  #5
                  Beeing this is GFY... Here's the short version *lol*

                  The new Verotel Tickets club system will give the club at least 3 links on your site
                  1. on your tour
                  2. on your join page
                  3. in your members area
                  If your surfer clicks any of those links it's bye bye potential customer as Verotel has disabled the back button from the Tickets club site, thus stealing your traffic and using it to get signups for other sites (or your own) for a 50+14% proffit !!

                  Think that pretty much sumed it up for the lazy ones *lol*
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                    • BradM
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 3397
                      #6
                      Pay for a merchant account.

                      They are simply "skimmin" to cover their asses.
                      I can see how it would be profitable for them.

                      Yes it is wrong, but if you can't afford a merchant account this is what you get.

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                        • mrgica
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2169
                          #7
                          VEROTEL
                          Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                            • Zprogramz
                              Confirmed User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 1360
                              #8
                              Originally posted by BradM
                              Pay for a merchant account.

                              They are simply "skimmin" to cover their asses.
                              I can see how it would be profitable for them.

                              Yes it is wrong, but if you can't afford a merchant account this is what you get.
                              I agree. Contact Netbilling. We use them and CCbill and are very happy.

                              Z

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                                • fedfest
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2002
                                  • 1334
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Dailydiapers
                                  The ticketclub is basically an AVS service, like AdultCheck - You want full 3rd party you need to go Verotel Pro (Even if you make under $1,000 a week, you can elect to go Pro.)
                                  With the one exeption that the surfer only gets acces to 1 site..

                                  Just wondering how the surfer will feel after he joins a site through the club site that says
                                  Every day over 1000 websites added to our system
                                  and..
                                  I use TicketsClub to play online games. It's great, all my games in one overview
                                  Now if i joined and got membership to only 1 site, and then that site didn't even have any games, I'd pretty much feel like i had been cheated..
                                  Imo.. That system can only bring higher chargeback numbers and much less sales

                                  Hmm.. and Visa should have requested that ????
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                                    • Pornwolf
                                      Drunk and Unruly
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 22712
                                      #10
                                      How many large adult programs even use thier own merchant accounts? Not many. There must be a reason for that.




                                      Sounds like you Verotel guys need to go CCBill, IBill, Jettis or Epoch
                                      I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade...

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                                        • fedfest
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • May 2002
                                          • 1334
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by BradM
                                          Pay for a merchant account.

                                          They are simply "skimmin" to cover their asses.
                                          I can see how it would be profitable for them.

                                          Yes it is wrong, but if you can't afford a merchant account this is what you get.
                                          I will.. but no way it's gonna be with Verotel

                                          I don't call that Skimming btw. The stunt they pull by not allowing the surfer to go back to your site is simply stealing your custumers
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                                            • chupacabra
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                                              • Sep 2002
                                              • 3626
                                              #12
                                              oh, please... if your not running a micro-site w/ terribly low volume, there is pretty much no reason to be using the ticketclub anyways... quit whining and sign up for a Pro account if you don't want to deal w/ the ticketclub, noone is holding a gun to anyones head here.

                                              due to creditcard companies demanding more transparency in the billing process, your going to have to suck up and get out your wallet to register for Pro, i don't see Verotels' implementation of the new rules to be anything terrible at all when examined from above... if they wanted to be assholes to all of their low-volume clients, they could have just ditched all of you at once, w/ no freebie option at all, leaving you to either sign up for a Pro account or pound sand.

                                              IMO the ticketclub isn't appropriate for any true paysite regardless, but micro-sites may see it as a viable option if your volume is really that low..
                                              ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

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                                                • doober
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 6984
                                                  #13
                                                  fedfest, consider it a favor from verotel forcing you to get a real processor.

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                                                    • fedfest
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 1334
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Zprogramz
                                                      I agree. Contact Netbilling. We use them and CCbill and are very happy.

                                                      Z
                                                      Thanks for the tip.. I'm checking them out now

                                                      I allready talked to CCbill though, and will have them as my main prosessor.

                                                      Still, I would like 2 so maybe the will be my second, how's their scrubbing ?
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                                                        • IMP^or^SNiTL.e
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                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                          • 1177
                                                          #15
                                                          ahh informative

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                                                            • fedfest
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                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 1334
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by doober
                                                              fedfest, consider it a favor from verotel forcing you to get a real processor.
                                                              *LOL*
                                                              You got a good point there doober

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                                                                • Argoz
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 3006
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by doober
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                                                                    • gwilkins
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                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                      • 744
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                      Beeing this is GFY... Here's the short version *lol*

                                                                      The new Verotel Tickets club system will give the club at least 3 links on your site
                                                                      1. on your tour
                                                                      2. on your join page
                                                                      3. in your members area
                                                                      If your surfer clicks any of those links it's bye bye potential customer as Verotel has disabled the back button from the Tickets club site, thus stealing your traffic and using it to get signups for other sites (or your own) for a 50+14% proffit !!

                                                                      Think that pretty much sumed it up for the lazy ones *lol*
                                                                      The Tickets club idea was theft to start with and disabling the back button is way over the top. I hope enough merchants bail on them to make it not worthwhile.

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                                                                        • mrgica
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                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                          • 2169
                                                                          #19
                                                                          se sig.
                                                                          Fuck it dude, lets go bowling

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                                                                            • fedfest
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                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                              • 1334
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by mrgica
                                                                              se sig.
                                                                              Hmm.. maybe you can explain me this from the service agreament :
                                                                              10. Fraud Scrub Service - The Fraud Scrub service is provided as an advisory service only. Acceptance or denial of transactions remains solely the authority and responsibility of the Client and Nexus will not be responsible for any failed transactions or losses from any transactions that result from the Client's use of this service.
                                                                              Chargeback Fee. A fee of USD$20.00 will be charged to the Client for every transaction which we process on the Clients behalf which is "charged-back" by the Customer.
                                                                              Hmm.. now i may read this wrong.. but doesn't this basicly say that they accept anything with no scrub at all = high chargeback rate.. and then bill you $20 for each chargeback ?
                                                                              If so, that does sound rater risky, and potentially very expensive to me

                                                                              4. Holdbacks - Holdbacks are 10% of monies earned by Client which are held back for a period of six months. After six months the monies will be paid to Client. Holdbacks are required to protect against fraud and charge-backs.
                                                                              So with the 10 % prosessing fee that's 20% total for any six month period, or 20% lost if they go belly up (allthough i know that's higly unlikely to happend to a prosessor company *chof chof*)

                                                                              Okay.. sorry for the sarcasm, it's 7 in the morning and i'm really on my way to bed.. might be that this prosessor is A-okay.. These points in the agreament just made me wonder..??
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                                                                                • BradM
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                                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                                  • 3397
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Fedfest: No you have valid points.

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                                                                                    • monaro
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                                      • 968
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      thanks for the heads up!

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                                                                                        • Paul Markham
                                                                                          Too old to care
                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                          • 52942
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Itr just does not seem the way a company dealing with my money should be acting, what ever the circumstances, Disabling the back button and offering so little I think is a good indication of who they are.

                                                                                          As for a merchant account, get me one and I will love you for the rest of my life. I've more money than a lot of you and been in business longer. But still can't get a merchant account.



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                                                                                            • Calvinguy
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                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                              • 1752
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by charly
                                                                                              As for a merchant account, get me one and I will love you for the rest of my life. I've more money than a lot of you and been in business longer. But still can't get a merchant account.
                                                                                              Interpay in the Netherlands handle all creditcard processing there and is very adult friendly. Only downside is that you need to incorp. in NL

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                                                                                                • sjoerdv
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                                  • 350
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  I don't understand the hassle. As soon as I got the Verotelmail about the ticketclub I understood the problems with that and switched to ccbill. Got switched before the ticketclub started.

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                                                                                                    • chaze
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                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                      • 9775
                                                                                                      #26
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                                                                                                        • Sambo
                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                          • 1187
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          What r the big sponsors that use Verotel?

                                                                                                          I will give them a wide berth

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                                                                                                            • BVF
                                                                                                              Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                              • 13975
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              I just went to ricosworld.com and he uses Verotel. Apparently he could afford to register for the pro version and when you click on the join link, you get nothing but a Verotel page and it doesn't mention anything about a "tickets club" or "1000's of sites".

                                                                                                              So in essence, ya gotta pay...

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                                                                                                                • C_U_Next_Tuesday
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                                                                                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                  • 10581
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  disabling the back button problem is fixed with opening your join page in a new w-i-n-d-o-w "target="_blank".

                                                                                                                  IF you use another processor and are upset that your members have to log in through the tickets club.. just add their user/pass to the .htpasswd file yourselves and they will still be able to log in through your site (although, if they dont log in within 48 hours to the ticket club, you lose that subscription)

                                                                                                                  Alot of you knew it was only a matter of time.. don't act so suprised that Verotel is saving its ass from being shut down by Visa like the rest of the other processors in the past.
                                                                                                                  Last edited by C_U_Next_Tuesday; 04-24-2004, 07:23 AM.

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                                                                                                                    • RicardoB
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                      • 2576
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BVF
                                                                                                                      I just went to ricosworld.com and he uses Verotel. Apparently he could afford to register for the pro version and when you click on the join link, you get nothing but a Verotel page and it doesn't mention anything about a "tickets club" or "1000's of sites".

                                                                                                                      So in essence, ya gotta pay...
                                                                                                                      If ya gotta pay ya gotta pay but I would choose a better biller then Verotel in that case.

                                                                                                                      Would be nice to see em reply in here though, do they read GFY?

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                                                                                                                        • Cyborg 2.0
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                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                          • 851
                                                                                                                          #31
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                                                                                                                            • BVF
                                                                                                                              Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2002
                                                                                                                              • 13975
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by RicardoB
                                                                                                                              If ya gotta pay ya gotta pay but I would choose a better biller then Verotel in that case.

                                                                                                                              Would be nice to see em reply in here though, do they read GFY?
                                                                                                                              yeah but if you have rebills you can't leave.

                                                                                                                              In fact...If Verotel gets their shit together, it might be a very viable option since they aren't based in the US and aren't subject to US laws. If they can strengthen their relations with the banks where VISA no longer fucks with them, it would be a good thing to be with Verotel.

                                                                                                                              Let's watch them for another year and see what happens to them.
                                                                                                                              Last edited by BVF; 04-24-2004, 08:29 AM.

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                                                                                                                                • fedfest
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                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 1334
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by BVF
                                                                                                                                  yeah but if you have rebills you can't leave.

                                                                                                                                  In fact...If Verotel gets their shit together, it might be a very viable option since they aren't based in the US and aren't subject to US laws. If they can strengthen their relations with the banks where VISA no longer fucks with them, it would be a good thing to be with Verotel.

                                                                                                                                  Let's watch them for another year and see what happens to them.
                                                                                                                                  Exactly

                                                                                                                                  They would be a very viable option as i'm sure many (my self included) chose to prosess with them not so much to save the visa fee but rather becaurse they where a good choise if you wheren't too happy about the usual big prosessor company's..

                                                                                                                                  However, it looks like they just got too gready.. Eigther that or they have no clue what they'r doing and i kinda doubt that..
                                                                                                                                  The tickets club is one thing.. If that was a Visa demand the by all means it should be done, and i'm sure it could even be worked out to look like a part of your site, rather than the Avs shit it looks like now.. But stealing our traffic like that and then making an extra 50% on someone thats paying you to prosess for them that stinks and noway in hell thats dictaded by Visa !!

                                                                                                                                  Don't forget that even though you don't pay the $1500 Visa fee this is still a payed service.. It's not like a freehost where you know they take part of your traffic somehow, or a free tradescript where you agrea they skim xx% of your traffic.. This IS a payed service where you pay them 14% to prosess your sales.. And that's it !!

                                                                                                                                  Nowhere in this deal does it say that they take your traffic to make extra money for themselves.. Heck, what would you say if your host sudently poped all your sites in a frame with his banner on the top took even though you payed full price for your server.. or a bought tradescript sudently started taking a big chunk of your traffic.. Imo. thats just what Verotel is doing here..
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                                                                                                                                    • Adult Site Traffic
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                                                                                                                                      #34
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                                                                                                                                        • psyko514
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                                                                                          Hmm.. maybe you can explain me this from the service agreament :

                                                                                                                                          Hmm.. now i may read this wrong.. but doesn't this basicly say that they accept anything with no scrub at all = high chargeback rate.. and then bill you $20 for each chargeback ?
                                                                                                                                          If so, that does sound rater risky, and potentially very expensive to me


                                                                                                                                          So with the 10 % prosessing fee that's 20% total for any six month period, or 20% lost if they go belly up (allthough i know that's higly unlikely to happend to a prosessor company *chof chof*)

                                                                                                                                          Okay.. sorry for the sarcasm, it's 7 in the morning and i'm really on my way to bed.. might be that this prosessor is A-okay.. These points in the agreament just made me wonder..??
                                                                                                                                          In regards to question #1, they allow you to scrub your own transactions. Meaning you can allow/refuse whatever transactions you wish. A merchant account offers the same thing.

                                                                                                                                          In regards to question #2, the holdback is perfectly normal and most (if not all) processors have holdbacks. Verotel, for example, charges you 16% in fees for recurring transactions, plus a 10% holdback.

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                                                                                                                                            • doober
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                                                                                                                                              • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 6984
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                                                                                                                                              Heh

                                                                                                                                              Phone: 1-718-504-6706
                                                                                                                                              http://www.nexusxi.com/about/contact.php

                                                                                                                                              Fake number

                                                                                                                                              + I found on google they've been processing since Feburary 2004 ?
                                                                                                                                              can you say "flight by night"

                                                                                                                                              these assholes spammed at the exact same time that verotel was implementing ticket club and eveyone was freaking lol

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                                                                                                                                                • tootie
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 6041
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
                                                                                                                                                  Heh

                                                                                                                                                  Phone: 1-718-504-6706
                                                                                                                                                  http://www.nexusxi.com/about/contact.php

                                                                                                                                                  Fake number

                                                                                                                                                  + I found on google they've been processing since Feburary 2004 ?
                                                                                                                                                  Phone number works for me.


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                                                                                                                                                    • Hentaikid
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                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 1250
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      I wouldn't have an issue with ticketsclub if I'd had a single signup with it since it started....

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                                                                                                                                                        • Shaze
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 2662
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          funny...i just sent a letter to them saying this and i see a post about them:

                                                                                                                                                          To whom it may concern,
                                                                                                                                                          Your tickets club signup page looks really bad. If I was a potential subscriber and came to that signup page I wouldn?t trust the site and signup. The signup page screams ?runaway? everywhere. You really need to fix the design of the signup page and the tickets club site design in general. I bet the signup rates have dropped since you implemented the tickets club design?
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                                                                                                                                                            • SENSEX
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                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Has anyone thought to stop and think "why"? Why has Verotel implemented all these changes? Why have they dissalowed teen sites? Why have they tightened the ropes for low volume websites?
                                                                                                                                                              Verotels bread and butter was from teen sites, or underage clothed modeling websites & thousands of low volume websites that didnt want to pay the $750.00 U.S. fee. All those websites add up and help their bottom line. You think they just woke up one day and said "hmmm, lets get rid of these money makers, charge our customers a fee, and make it difficult for users to join" It's clear their hands are being forced, and the restrictions are getting tighter.
                                                                                                                                                              Unfortunatly your going to have to adapt to the new rules. You may not like them, but ask yourself this: Can you still do 3rd party proccessing? I agree that Verotel's latest stunt involving the back button is low, and that's why you have to email them and let them know about your feelings.
                                                                                                                                                              here is the owner of Verotel's email addy: joost at verza dot com
                                                                                                                                                              Talk to him, he is a pretty smart guy who will take the time to answer your questions personaly.
                                                                                                                                                              I use Verotel as a backup, and to be honest I have not noticed a difference in Verotel sales. If your website is just that good, the surfer is going to find a way to join and get what he wants. He should never be distracted into even thinking of joining another website. A lonely dude with a hardon on a Saturday night is gold.

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                                                                                                                                                                • fedfest
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                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Hentaikid
                                                                                                                                                                  I wouldn't have an issue with ticketsclub if I'd had a single signup with it since it started....
                                                                                                                                                                  Same here.. not a single fucking sale

                                                                                                                                                                  But when all potential custumers get highjacket to the tickets club and can't get back to your join page again that's really no big surprise is it
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                                                                                                                                                                    • DeadFidel
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      They must have been lurking this thread.
                                                                                                                                                                      The have changed the signup page (took away the silly jpgs)
                                                                                                                                                                      and the back botton now works fine.

                                                                                                                                                                      Man I think this board has some power after all!

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                                                                                                                                                                        • fedfest
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DeadFidel
                                                                                                                                                                          They must have been lurking this thread.
                                                                                                                                                                          The have changed the signup page (took away the silly jpgs)
                                                                                                                                                                          and the back botton now works fine.

                                                                                                                                                                          Man I think this board has some power after all!
                                                                                                                                                                          Hmm.. don't see any changes regarding the back button.. I still can't click back to my signup page ??
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                                                                                                                                                                            • DeadFidel
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                                                                                                                              Hmm.. don't see any changes regarding the back button.. I still can't click back to my signup page ??
                                                                                                                                                                              Example: http:www.youngwebteens.com (hold no assc. with them

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                                                                                                                                                                                • fedfest
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DeadFidel
                                                                                                                                                                                  Example: http:www.youngwebteens.com (hold no assc. with them
                                                                                                                                                                                  When you get to their Verotel signup page https://secure.ticketsclub.com/cgi-b...fldresellerid= try clicking the link where it says :
                                                                                                                                                                                  Note that everytime you want to revisit the website of choice, you will have to visit http://www.ticketsclub.com
                                                                                                                                                                                  can you still click back to the signup page once you clicked that ticketsclub link ? I can't
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • BVF
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                                                                                                                                      When you get to their Verotel signup page https://secure.ticketsclub.com/cgi-b...fldresellerid= try clicking the link where it says :

                                                                                                                                                                                      can you still click back to the signup page once you clicked that ticketsclub link ? I can't
                                                                                                                                                                                      I can't....and I didn't realize that they took the 14% fee PLUS 50% of your money for a total of 64% .

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • DeadFidel
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by fedfest
                                                                                                                                                                                          When you get to their Verotel signup page https://secure.ticketsclub.com/cgi-b...fldresellerid= try clicking the link where it says :

                                                                                                                                                                                          can you still click back to the signup page once you clicked that ticketsclub link ? I can't
                                                                                                                                                                                          That's freaky....It is enabled on that link but not from the start.
                                                                                                                                                                                          It may be an IE issue, I am now further confused.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • FACE
                                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 153
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              then don''t use them, moron.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • DeadFidel
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by FACE
                                                                                                                                                                                                  then don''t use them, moron.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  When calling someone you don't know a moron, you should be extra careful to spell correctly

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • fedfest
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DeadFidel
                                                                                                                                                                                                      When calling someone you don't know a moron, you should be extra careful to spell correctly
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