America and its Rape Fantasy

Some people see fantasy and act it out...take it a step too far, it can get dangerous when viewed by the weak minded.

it's hated because its illegal.

Alot of women have that fantasy as well as men.I think it's the brutal rape that most people have a problem with.

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rape too plus fucked up fetish shit

You're in for a long one, you'll be better off doc.menting the ones that don't

So its OK for mainstream to depict such things while if it remotely touches within XXX its blasphemy and an uproar?

Society is one big fucken mistake in a petri dish mixed with the vomit of life.

Which is exactly what I amr referring to as well. People here feel they can tell a person what they can or cannot fantasize about, and I think thats wrong.

WOMEN HAVE THIS FANTASY and enjoy being in fake rape flicks, and hell in Evil Dead a girl is RAPED BY A FUCKING TREE!!!

if that was the case you would not see it in movies etc.

rape is everywhere. and to MANY its only a fantasy much like the "teen girls" all of you adore so much.

rape is considered as a heinous crime, how can you welcome the idea that you are being force by someone and worse kill you after he get what he wants

there is a difference in my mind.

the tv and movies rarely ever depict it as graphically or as real as some pornographers will. In tv/movies it is used as a small part of the plot, made to emphasis a point. In the stand, it represented the worst possible union..you said it yourself..demon cum

now my point is that porn will glorify the act (rape) itself.
and we dont need to train 1000's of little pervos that it is ok to sexually gratify themselves while fantasizing about raping girls.

so there is a difference

rape = anger/hate

There is nothing positive about rape. If it is in a movie, it is because it would be something (everyone would agree) that's worth spending your life hunting down the rapist. Death for a rapist is something everyone enjoys!

Damn I can't believe you remembered the Death Wish movies

Charles Bronson took revenge for everything... from having cold coffee, to his new family who was just killed in that same movie.

I agree with your post.

You mean degrading? I can thinkof a few sites off the top of my head that show girls being brutally fucked, spuit on, called whoreish names and insulted while being throat fucked and have their assholes gaped and spit on, even writing whore on their head or chest, and totally degrading them.

Somehow you think a fantasy movies about girls fucked agaisnt their will is anger? hate?

i can think of another word for it, degrading, and its in MANY sites many of you push.

rape is a fantasy whether you admit it or not.Is it because its an illegal act that its not right? that doesnt really make sense considering the sites that are out today,.. including Coke Whore sluts and shit

rape is a fantasy whether you admit it or not.
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What??? Maybe for you . . . but all that means is you need help.

Also, I dont want you people to think I am specifically talking about rape AND PORN.

Im talking about the overall subject of how much America craves and desires rape fantasy.

Are Rape Fantasy stories wrong too?

Are you telling me you people actually believe its okay to tell someone what they can or cannot w r i t e about too?

The last time I discussed about raping I got raped by lensman, so this time I won't join the discussion.

a quick google search will prove their are both men and women who fantasize about rape, I am not one of them.

if you are not intelligent enough to speak in the thread please dont bother, I am trying to discuss something, your penaut gallery insults are not worth reading.

Do a google search or educate yourself, their are women in this country that actively fantasize about being raped.

Dont tell me I need help because you dont know there exists such a thing.

Not really talking about "raping" trying to discuss rape fantasy intellectually, hopefully he recognizes that.

I am not glorifying an act towards women or man for that matter. This is an ACTIVE FANTASY, and most people simply HAVE NO CLUE IT EXISTS, do a google search there are forums after forums of women debating this issue, its a hot subject.

Id like to think as adult webmasters we could discuss this suibject, since we rely on *fantasy* to sell all our products, whether its "the bitch needed a place to stay so we offered her 500 to fuck for the nights rent" or meatholes.

fantasy is fantasy and its a shame many of you cannot recognize that, when the WOMEN WHO DO FANTASIZE about this, would tell most of you to shut the fuck up and sit down.

Not one of you fucking men (or boys) in here can say you wouldnt want to be literally held down and have some woman have their way with you.

Call it rape, call it forced fun, whatever.

Id love to have 3 hot girls roll up on me, tie me up and fuck the shit out of me, RAPE ME GIRLS> its fantasy, see how hamrless that was?

Now, do you REALLY Think there are NOT WOMEN on this Earth that wont fantasize about having THE SAME DONE TO THEM but by 3 hot guys?

this is fantasy and its done in studios with cameras, and its totally sfe.

fantasy is fantasy ;)

Do a google search or educate yourself, their are women in this country that actively fantasize about being raped.

Dont tell me I need help because you dont know there exists such a thing.
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I'll agree that I don't know there exists "help for you" but I hope you try anyway.

A google search??? What are you smoking? Just because there are pages on the web doesn't mean anything.
It could be one man creating a bunch of pages about his sick fantasy. Why do you even want to discuss the topic?

Why dont you put me on ignore and run along, its obvious you are not smart enough to participate.

i never seen that movie.. but i'd prolly think if it's on a movie it has a point and/or goes with story.. and i've never seen a movie where they rape a girl bust all over her face and such.. it maybe sholuld be banned from movies.. .most movies that show stuff like that.. just show the dude kissing her etc. while she resissts.. they don't show them straight out fucking for 10 mins and shit

i will give you that point..there are women who do fantasize about this....i doubt they would like the real thing at all..but the thought gets them off.

itis a sick fantasy for sure...i think it should be something that is not open to the public to explore. whether it be in porn or mainstream media outlets....you can't control the weak minded fools who will slowly believe that rape is an acceptable sexual act.

i am sure there are plenty of people who can delve into fantasy and just use it as a one off..get their rocks off and not really consider the act of violently raping someone in the real world.


theones that worry me are the ones that cant make the distinction between right and wrong...why give them more fuel and more desires?

No, it's hated because it's sick and its wrong... people don't hate things because they're illegal. Look at drugs, they're illegal and everyone loves them

Call it rape, call it forced fun, whatever.
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WHAT THE ????????


What if you replaced the word rape with "murder"?


Does that help you understand . . . at all?

And if the girl signed model release I do not understand why you feel they can have it in movies but its NOT OKAY to have a consentual actress play a sex role involving rape?

You know what, I can remember porn probably before you guys were even old enough to ejaculate, and i can rmeember Jamie Gillis in a scene where a girl was raped by 3 guys and after she was on the ground bleeding and hurt, he jerked off on her, and talked about how much she must have liked it, and she was laying their moaning while Jamie Gillis jerked his cock on her, I guess none of you studs are old enough to even recall such things.

But let them feed you Jackass and American idiol and now you all turn sour?

Again not glorifying an act, but fantasy is fantasy.

So is murder, but is all over the media from TV shows, movies, novels and music.

(FYI - I'm not pro rape, just making a point)

After this I will no longer reply to you until you LEARN HOW TO USE THE QUOTE FUNCTION.

I am NOT talking about murder you dumb newbie, Im talking about a scripted fantasy, acted out by actors, in a studio, paid for their time, NO ONE GETS HURT.

CONSENTUAL FANTASY.

does that help you understand?

Now learn how to use the "quote function"

What you're suggesting, Fletch..is not rape.

Wanting to be tied up and sex'd has nothing to do with rape.

The word 'want' and 'desire' is not what rape is about. The fantasy involves 'implied consent'.

I do not believe there is a woman alive who wants to be raped, whether in fantasy or in reality.

There needs to be a new word to describe what they do want, because even the 'stranger in the hahahahahaha - take me by force' fantasy is consensual....and rape is not consensual nor does it involve sexuality other than using one's organ as a weapon...

picture visa saying "ok we will process rape sites if the girl agree's ti it etc.." you know how many people would take that to the extreme? and how many sites would popup that are questionable.. maybe it's just because they don't want to go that route.. not sure..

w i n d o w
is a banned word?

Ai gree, but the only term I know is "Rape Fantasy" lets call it "Consentual Force" hahah

either way the girls involved clearly are paid actors, NOT BEING HURT or harmed and its no different than any other fantasy.

Im not saying they actually fantasize about being *raped* like by a fucking criminal, im talking about adults and sexual fantasies.

if this fantasy was not big, there would not be so many rape stories pased around online, women love the thought, NOT BY A CRIMINAL, but in a sexual fantasy role.

there is NO harm in that.

Again, IM NOT TALKING ABOUT STARTING A RAPE PORN SITE!!!!

just wanting to discuss the fantasy part of this and why it seems so many guys are all against it, but they will sign up for a REAL DEGRADING site but cant imagine a girl fantasizing about this?

ignorance is what it is.

Again not glorifying an act, but fantasy is fantasy.
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Ya! No matter how fucked up!!!

How many fuckers have had these sick fantasy thoughts?

How many sick fuckers try to find an audience?

I wonder if you realize what you are talking about.

THINK THINK THINK THINK THINK THINK THINK THINK

can you believe that flick is 30 years old?

time flies.

wasn't talking about YOU starting one.. was just giving idea on y they wouldn't..

Yes, its fuckin Hollywood fantasy!
All films have rape fantasies

I understand, just trying to keep it on the grounds of America and its desire for rape fantasy, not really focused on sites and such ;)

There are active groups for people who have this fantasy and even act them out with each other, CONSENTUAL OF COURSE!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/04/01/ra...eut/index.html

he just picked the wrong house!

But it was an actual rape fantasy made with a woman. ;)

if this fantasy was not big, there would not be so many rape stories pased around online, women love the thought, NOT BY A CRIMINAL, but in a sexual fantasy role.

there is NO harm in that.
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ARE YOU BRAIN DAMAGED?

RAPE IS A CRIME!

IF YOU RAPE SOMEONE YOU ARE A CRIMINAL!


THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS CONSENTUAL RAPE!

In fantasy rape the guys are sexy, smell nice and turn on the woman fantasizing. Real rape the guys are gross pigs that cant get real women becuase they have head issues with them.

It is my opinion that when a woman fantasizes about being raped, one of two things is going on. She is submissive and its one more thing she would do for her master OR she wants to feel the passion. Passion drives women. Being desired so much that someone would take it.

I cannot imagine that a woman who wants to be stalked, terrorized and forced to endure a fuck that would be violent in nature and potentially make her ill (disease) or kill her (rapist or disease) or worse possible, make her pregnant. That is a real rape.

If a woman who was really raped could tell her story to the woman that fantasized it....the later would change what she called her fantasy. Forced sex, slave sex etc. There is an element of trust and alot less fear in that.

Women fantasize about being at a bar, seeing a guy (possibly not her usual type of guy even) stare at her across the room. He follows her with is eyes. She is turned on by him, by his intensity. She leaves early, with full knowledge that he is watching her walk out into the darkened lonely streets. Maybe she even flirts with him for 2 seconds, giving him the permission to follow. When he pushes her into a side alley way and fucks her silly leaving his "seed" inside her and walks away leaving her laying there, thats a rape fantasy. She chose him, gave him permission and walked out where it could easily happen. She felt his passion for her.

A woman does not fantasize about driving along alone at night, stopping at a light, a guy with a gun getting into her car and making her drive to a diserted spot. Making her do anything he wishes at gunpoint. When he is done with her shooting her.

The problem with all of the above positive scenerio is interpretation/consent. A woman should not be forced into sex just because she made eye contact with a guy in a bar. Consentual rape. Go figure there is such a thing. When a woman submits to a master and he brings a man to fuck her. Thats consentual rape. If the woman doesnt scream when she is dragged into the alley way does that mean she consents to the rape? or does it mean she is scared shitless?

Can I rape you? takes the effect out of it .... it all has to be consentual. A site that can teach consent will be a winner. That is why you cannot legally show content where a woman is bound up and fucked. There is no consent. A site like INSEX will film the girls talking before and talking about knowing what is coming and why she wants to participate. Thats consent.

When a site can show that kind of consent and take a responsible approach to a tour to show that those participating in the site consented to the rape (making it rape fantasy right) that site would not be illegal. To say that they should never exist because we would be teaching young boys that its okay to take what they want from the less strong sex is not right. I have seen sites that say its okay to drug a woman into sex. I am not sure that they cross a line legally but they do teach that its okay to take what you want without consent. If you can teach consent then you have done what is morally right.

good post, here is more info i believe written by a woman ;0

http://www.leathernroses.com/general...efantasies.htm

"Rape is a terrible crime that has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with someone using sex as a means of attaining personal power through subjugation of another person. It is a power play by someone who probably feels they have no personal power, so they use rape as a means to feel powerful. It is a horrible act that is devestating to the victim, be it a man or a woman. Interestingly, rape remains a rather common fantasy among women. I am not saying that women who think or fantasize about rape, truly wish to experience a real rape. Usually these women prefer to be overpowered, feel helpless, and in some way this scenario removes from them any responsibility for enjoying the sexual acts which are "forced" upon them. But they desire it in a safe manner. With someone who they KNOW will not truly injure them."

this person knows EXACTLY where I am coming from with this thread.

Completely agree with you. I fantasize about hot girls having there way with me.

It's just porn darn it. Different people have different fantasies.

They have to start attacking the industry somewhere....

So they pick subjects where 99% of the people will agree that it is something they are not interested in, or they consider obscene.

So they they pick at something that 95% don't like...

Then 80%... then 60%...

Up until you're forced to church on Sundays only to be woken up by the plink, plinking of people dropping their money in a plate to profess their alligence to a god whos will must be followed at all times - except of course during times of war - then you're real life god will show up to explain how the invisible god would have approved of this one

But they desire it in a safe manner. With someone who they KNOW will not truly injure them."
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So, I guess you are REALLY just talking about CONSENTUAL sex???

from now on I will refer to this fantasy as "ravishments"

"These fantasies play a part in BDSM. To many it is considered one of the darker sides of BDSM. Many people enact these consensual rape fantasies with their partners, and I have been involved in discussions about them. One group of people I have discussed this with chose to call these fantasies "ravishment's" because the word rape has a well deserved reputation of violence. "

rape is a bad word, so I will use ravishments

Murder is sick and I see it glorified in movies and on tv all of the time.

So, what if your weak minded rapist wannabe is a murder wannabe...should we stop producoing horror mvoies and big budget action buddy cop movies?

Should we pass laws to restrict what others see and read and hear based upon what one sicko may do? what if I went out and acted out scenes from the bible?

Rape fantasy isn't so much about brutality as it is about power...men who have rape fantasies want this ultimate power over females and females with rape fantasies want to be overpowered and give up control. It doesn't mean the man with rape fantasy wants to take a woman against her will anymore than a woman with a rape fantasy REALLY wants to be raped. They are called fantasies for a reason.

Hell, there ar men who have fantasies of their wives with other men, but that doesn't mean they want to see it in reality...in fantasy there is always an element of control.

nice post.

especially the last words.