Lensman, do not accept Luke Ford's resignation!

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  • Loryn
    Super Connector
    • Jul 2003
    • 12853
    #151
    Originally posted by MicroChick
    Has anyone written, "paid in full," on the back or front of their checks?

    It reminds me of "off the record." It would be wonderful if both requests were honored. Good luck!
    Well the request "off the record" was enforced in this case.
    Last edited by Loryn; 04-23-2004, 09:08 PM.
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      • TheGoldenChild
        Confirmed User
        • May 2002
        • 6940
        #152
        Originally posted by GonZo
        Here ya go KB... dont say I never gave ya anything playa.
        Why dont you and Confucy go hit up Ynotradio and get them to give you a radio show? Confucy is addicted to em...and you could get an hours worth of fame a week!

        Are you a player or a stayer?
        I was already approached- i turned it down.
        There is no $$$ in it for me and too much work for once a week

        I sold YNOT to FCI in 2000 for Rick- and I still get paid from the commission- :-))

        I make it a habit to never go back in time, only forward- i wish YNOT well as Bob is my oldest acquaintance/ friend in California

        Even though I love radio and had been in that industry for years prior to this industry- It's an arduous task to produce and perform regularly

        Counting on flakey people in this business to show up on time for a show is about as bad as scheduling models to show up at shoots on time...

        never works out quite right

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          • MicroChick
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2002
            • 1277
            #153
            Baddog, I have a law degree, and I still can't keep up with the laws. On the contrary, Dig is a reader. He is very well-versed in history and law.

            When I think of a speakerphone, I think of broadcasting...almost like ham radio. I don't know for sure who might be listening.

            Loryn, I said many posts ago that Lensman is the boss. What he says goes. Whether the conversation was *off the record*...taped...not taped, Lensman was in a position to call the shots regarding the story.

            I wanted all the parties to work something out. What's the point of hiring an attorney to threaten a reporter when those involved could sit down and settle the problem.

            I know what it is like for someone to threaten you with attorneys, and then refuse to talk to you to solve the problem. To me, it is a chickenshit way of handling a disagreement.

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              • TheGoldenChild
                Confirmed User
                • May 2002
                • 6940
                #154
                4 pages for a guy you all love to HATE-

                I guess the trainwreck theory does work with webmasters.
                Like him or hate him LF gets page views

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                  • Digipimp
                    BP4L OT DL
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 13481
                    #155
                    hey!



                    who fucking cares!

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                      • MicroChick
                        Confirmed User
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 1277
                        #156
                        Gonzo, didn't you ever listen to KB's radio show?

                        I thought it was quite good. He has already been down the radio path. You are the newbie. You should get some advice from KB and D$. They both had their own shows. They had Gary Kremen on as a guest many times. D$ had an excellent show dealing with Acacia. What does YNOT radio have to offer the brothers?

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                          • baddog
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089
                            #157
                            MC, you have a law degree, I gave you a link to CA law. What happened? Find anything?

                            Funny, speakerphone has ZERO results, yet telephone has 112 results - apparently the State of California does not see a difference.

                            The fact that you consider a speakerphone to be the same as a ham radio only proves that you made a wise choice in not making law your career choice.

                            While you may not know who is listening, you are guaranteed, by law, that no one will be recording it . . . . unless they have a search warrant.

                            Why do you think that when you call some businesses you get an announcement informing you that your call may be recorded for training, or service evaluation purposes, and that if you don't want it to be recorded to let the customer rep know.

                            You seem to forget, that not only do I have a past in the legal profession, but I also have 30+ years in telecommunications, and every 6 months, for 25 years, I was reviewed on privacy via telephone lines.

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                              • baddog
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Apr 2001
                                • 107089
                                #158
                                Originally posted by kBizzle
                                4 pages for a guy you all love to HATE-

                                I guess the trainwreck theory does work with webmasters.
                                Like him or hate him LF gets page views
                                Not really, I have never even read anything he wrote. I just like discussing legal issues.

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                                  • MicroChick
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 1277
                                    #159
                                    Digi, you still around? I guess you do care after all.

                                    Nobody can replace TheLukeMaster. When you hahahahaha, you can't have thin skin.

                                    KB, you know what it is like. You have taken many hits regarding your job changes...your Brad Shaw fiasco...your love of women.

                                    You're still standing! LF will survive.

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                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                        best designer on GFY
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 30307
                                        #160
                                        Ya know I hate to say this but I KNEW that AVN and Luke Ford would get into a Tangle over the news coverage of this latest hardship.

                                        I swear this industry is to predictable sometimes.

                                        Whats awesome is Luke is one man. One man only and he does better work than that entire magazine!
                                        Goto love that...
                                        Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 04-23-2004, 09:37 PM.

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                                          • Loryn
                                            Super Connector
                                            • Jul 2003
                                            • 12853
                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by MicroChick
                                            I wanted all the parties to work something out. What's the point of hiring an attorney to threaten a reporter when those involved could sit down and settle the problem.

                                            I know what it is like for someone to threaten you with attorneys, and then refuse to talk to you to solve the problem. To me, it is a chickenshit way of handling a disagreement.
                                            Lensman is very capable of handling these situations and I am more than positive he spoke with both parties. You are totally assuming what went on and what didn't go on, and you are wrong in both. If you would like to stick to your assumptions and continue making post as if you were in the office or in any of the conversations that were had go right ahead. You could probably get a x-box or a DVD player out of it!!!

                                            I understand how it feels when something happens that you do not like, it sucks. But that is life and the better you handle it the happier you will be.
                                            ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~



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                                              • MicroChick
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                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 1277
                                                #162
                                                Baddog...a very impressive background as I read your interview on klixxx.com. Domain names, hackers, spamming, cell phone spoofing, IP spoofing........and now, speakerphone taping! The laws are still unclear.

                                                Lensman, bring back our Lukey. Hell, he is barely existing now with his very limited income. Poor guy is sleeping on the floor, driving a very old van, and depending on the goodness of his friends for a decent meal.

                                                Don't accept his resignation. Do some magic and work things out.

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                                                  • pornstar2pac
                                                    Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 17380
                                                    #163
                                                    ok, I wasn't going to do this, but what the hell.




                                                    Duke, I'll buy your sig next month for $500. You have to make at least 800 posts. Welcome to the sig whore nation. You got until the 27th to say yes and thank you pornstar2pac
                                                    Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 30307
                                                        #164
                                                        God forbid that an investor does not step up to Luke one day so he could begin another print "industry" publication.

                                                        That would be monumental.

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                                                          • quiet
                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                            • 25115
                                                            #165
                                                            go back to op ra no, no one cares.
                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                              • icu33774
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                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 1573
                                                                #166
                                                                Ok before i have to go read thru all these post again Did this guy give permission to be taped?
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                                                                  • pornstar2pac
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                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                    • 17380
                                                                    #167
                                                                    Originally posted by icu33774
                                                                    Ok before i have to go read thru all these post again Did this guy give permission to be taped?


                                                                    it seems that he had said, "off the record" but who know's . I think we should close down adult beat and avn for awhile and let them think about what they did wrong
                                                                    Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                      • MicroChick
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                                                                        • Nov 2002
                                                                        • 1277
                                                                        #168
                                                                        Alien, I don't know whether you read any of Luke's articles back when he was writing on lukeford.com, but there was some very funny good stuff produced by LF. Also, I have enjoyed the interviews he did with producers of films. My God, Luke went to hospitals to interview producers who wouldn't see anyone else.

                                                                        There is no replacement for him. I cannot understand why a non-porn media source hasn't gobbled him up. When I read some of the boring junk that the nytimes publishes, I wonder who is hiring these jerkoffs.

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                                                                          • Loryn
                                                                            Super Connector
                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                            • 12853
                                                                            #169
                                                                            Originally posted by MicroChick

                                                                            Hell, he is barely existing now with his very limited income. Poor guy is sleeping on the floor, driving a very old van, and depending on the goodness of his friends for a decent meal.
                                                                            ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~



                                                                            RIP TD

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                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 107089
                                                                                #170
                                                                                Originally posted by MicroChick
                                                                                Baddog...a very impressive background as I read your interview on klixxx.com. Domain names, hackers, spamming, cell phone spoofing, IP spoofing........and now, speakerphone taping! The laws are still unclear.
                                                                                I don't know how to break this to you, but speakerphones and tape recorders have been around a very long time. I am sure if they were going to make an exception to the rule, it would have been done by now.

                                                                                Perhaps you should w<i></i>rite your Congressman

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                                                                                  • Loryn
                                                                                    Super Connector
                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 12853
                                                                                    #171
                                                                                    Originally posted by MicroChick

                                                                                    There is no replacement for him.
                                                                                    Anyone can be replaced!!!
                                                                                    ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~



                                                                                    RIP TD

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                                                                                      • icu33774
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                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                        • 1573
                                                                                        #172
                                                                                        Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                                                        it seems that he had said, "off the record" but who know's . I think we should close down adult beat and avn for awhile and let them think about what they did wrong
                                                                                        Well if the guy did say "off the record" thats what it should of been. Now i seen in a pervious post someone stated that you can not use anwsering machine /voile mail messages usless its life treating. That statement is NOT
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                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                            #173
                                                                                            Originally posted by icu33774
                                                                                            Ok before i have to go read thru all these post again Did this guy give permission to be taped?
                                                                                            no, therein lies the problem

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                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                #174
                                                                                                Originally posted by MicroChick
                                                                                                Alien, I don't know whether you read any of Luke's articles back when he was writing on lukeford.com, but there was some very funny good stuff produced by LF. Also, I have enjoyed the interviews he did with producers of films. My God, Luke went to hospitals to interview producers who wouldn't see anyone else.

                                                                                                There is no replacement for him. I cannot understand why a non-porn media source hasn't gobbled him up. When I read some of the boring junk that the nytimes publishes, I wonder who is hiring these jerkoffs.
                                                                                                Its about keeping a good man down.
                                                                                                There is to much of that in the world...

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                                                                                                  • Loryn
                                                                                                    Super Connector
                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                    • 12853
                                                                                                    #175
                                                                                                    Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                                                                    Its about keeping a good man down.
                                                                                                    There is to much of that in the world...
                                                                                                    Yeah that is what Lensman does!!!
                                                                                                    Last edited by Loryn; 04-23-2004, 09:51 PM.
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                                                                                                      • Loryn
                                                                                                        Super Connector
                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                        • 12853
                                                                                                        #176
                                                                                                        Originally posted by icu33774
                                                                                                        Well if the guy did say "off the record" thats what it should of been. Now i seen in a pervious post someone stated that you can not use anwsering machine /voile mail messages usless its life treating. That statement is NOT
                                                                                                        The guy DID say OFF THE RECORD!!!!
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                                                                                                        RIP TD

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                                                                                                          • icu33774
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                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                            • 1573
                                                                                                            #177
                                                                                                            Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                                                                            it seems that he had said, "off the record" but who know's . I think we should close down adult beat and avn for awhile and let them think about what they did wrong
                                                                                                            Dang i must of hit entered lol ok here it is again



                                                                                                            Well if the guy did say "off the record" thats what it should of been.
                                                                                                            Now i seen in a pervious post someone stated that you can not use anwsering machine /voile mail messages usless its life threating. That statement is NOT true in florida . Me and my soon to be wife are sueing my mother in law for messages she left on my familys anwsering machine. We could agree to the deal but we will take it all they way and donate half the winning to chairity to just piss her off.

                                                                                                            Now if this guy said off "off the record" thats what it should of been. You can not argue that statement at all. If this guy did post the story after he was it was off the record he has made a bad mistake and people will not trust him at all!
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                                                                                                              • MicroChick
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                                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                • 1277
                                                                                                                #178
                                                                                                                Quiet, are you talking to me?

                                                                                                                Don't you want me to give you some competition here at GFY? Don't you want to be my post guru and teach me how to get my numbers up?

                                                                                                                What do you do? It looks like you enter ever thread several times to say HA HA HA so you can have ten million posts at the end of the month.

                                                                                                                Why don't you go to O-prano. They are looking for heavy-duty posters to make their sponsors happy.

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                                                                                                                  • pornstar2pac
                                                                                                                    Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                    • 17380
                                                                                                                    #179
                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
                                                                                                                    Yeah that is what Lensman does!!!




                                                                                                                    Tell Lens, I'll be a little late for golf tomorrow. I'll be there about 7:45am






                                                                                                                    thanks
                                                                                                                    Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                                                                                      • Loryn
                                                                                                                        Super Connector
                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                        • 12853
                                                                                                                        #180
                                                                                                                        Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                                                                                                        Tell Lens, I'll be a little late for golf tomorrow. I'll be there about 7:45am






                                                                                                                        thanks

                                                                                                                        ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~



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                                                                                                                          • Holly
                                                                                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                            • 10017
                                                                                                                            #181
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by MicroChick
                                                                                                                            Everyone knows LF likes to tape everything and everyone. If A-V-N didn't like the story he posted, then they should have called him and worked out something so it didn't result in A-V-N calling Lensman and bitching. Let's say LF should not have done the story. What right did A-V-N have to over-react and immediately contact their attorney. This is the adult business. How about acting like adults.
                                                                                                                            You don't like the fact that AVN didn't contact Luke personally... that AVN called Lensman and bitched about the article... that AVN contacted their attorney... that AVN didn't act like adults. Okay, fine. But I'm still not clear what Lensman had to do with any of that?? I doubt he has any control over how AVN decides to react to a story or how they handle themselves. And I haven't heard that he's psychic, so I don't think he knew they were gonna call him about all this.

                                                                                                                            Seems like the people you should be taking this up with are AVN. Why not post it on their board?


                                                                                                                            quote from you: I wanted all the parties to work something out. What's the point of hiring an attorney to threaten a reporter when those involved could sit down and settle the problem.


                                                                                                                            I still don't understand what the hell you're talking about. Where are you getting this??

                                                                                                                            No one is suing Luke Ford, no one has "hired an attorney" to threaten him. Surely you don't think AVN didn't already have an attorney? Of course they would ask their attorney if he felt what LF did was wrong. You said yourself, you asked 3 of your attorneys about it today. Would you consider that "threatening" someone?

                                                                                                                            There was no legal action taken, no paper work filed. Paul Fishbein, the President of AVN, was the one who called Lensman. Just because he may have said their attorney felt it was a felony, does not mean AVN has went out and hired lawyers to threaten LF.

                                                                                                                            I'm also not sure why you would be surprised that AVN called Lensman instead of Luke? If you specifically stated you didn't want to be on record with him or the site he worked for, then you found out he had recorded you without your knowledge and put up a transcript of it, I doubt you'd be trying to talk to *him*. Anyone in that situation would go straight to the top.
                                                                                                                            War National Damn Champions Eagle

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                                                                                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                                • 30307
                                                                                                                                #182
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
                                                                                                                                Yeah that is what Lensman does!!!

                                                                                                                                Figures ya would go on and read into it like that.

                                                                                                                                Adultbeat is kool, Len's is awesome for having Luke as a hahahahahar.
                                                                                                                                However...
                                                                                                                                Luke is capable of Far far more than a blogger.
                                                                                                                                We all know it and its a fucken shame no one has stepped up significantly so he could pull forward and be very succesful instead of living check to check like most Corp grunts do...

                                                                                                                                Luke is far more deserving and has 10X the talent in writing than most hahahahahars in the United States.

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                                                                                                                                  • Loryn
                                                                                                                                    Super Connector
                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                    • 12853
                                                                                                                                    #183
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Holly
                                                                                                                                    You don't like the fact that AVN didn't contact Luke personally... that AVN called Lensman and bitched about the article... that AVN contacted their attorney... that AVN didn't act like adults. Okay, fine. But I'm still not clear what Lensman had to do with any of that?? I doubt he has any control over how AVN decides to react to a story or how they handle themselves. And I haven't heard that he's psychic, so I don't think he knew they were gonna call him about all this.

                                                                                                                                    Seems like the people you should be taking this up with are AVN. Why not post it on their board?


                                                                                                                                    quote from you: I wanted all the parties to work something out. What's the point of hiring an attorney to threaten a reporter when those involved could sit down and settle the problem.


                                                                                                                                    I still don't understand what the hell you're talking about. Where are you getting this??

                                                                                                                                    No one is suing Luke Ford, no one has "hired an attorney" to threaten him. Surely you don't think AVN didn't already have an attorney? Of course they would ask their attorney if he felt what LF did was wrong. You said yourself, you asked 3 of your attorneys about it today. Would you consider that "threatening" someone?

                                                                                                                                    There was no legal action taken, no paper work filed. Paul Fishbein, the President of AVN, was the one who called Lensman. Just because he may have said their attorney felt it was a felony, does not mean AVN has went out and hired lawyers to threaten LF.

                                                                                                                                    I'm also not sure why you would be surprised that AVN called Lensman instead of Luke? If you specifically stated you didn't want to be on record with him or the site he worked for, then you found out he had recorded you without your knowledge and put up a transcript of it, I doubt you'd be trying to talk to *him*. Anyone in that situation would go straight to the top.
                                                                                                                                    MicroChick, please read this a couple of times!!!! Good stuff!!
                                                                                                                                    ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~



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                                                                                                                                      • MicroChick
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                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                        #184
                                                                                                                                        Folks, there were many people in the room. If one person acknowledges the "off the record" request, does that mean all of the other people must go along with it?

                                                                                                                                        No Replacement! I do think that certain people are not replaceable. If you take Serge away from O-prano, it starts to die. If Brad Shaw left his board, sponsors would leave...posters would wander off. I miss Shaw's posts on GFY. He is becoming too vanilla and too uncontroversial on just blow me.

                                                                                                                                        How do you replace the love of your life? Your soulmate? Don't get picky on me, Loryn. If LF were not special, Lensman would never have hired him. I have been covering w r i t e r s in porn for many years. There are none who have the style and the pizazz of Luke Ford.
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                                                                                                                                        Luke, all I ask for all my support is that you w r i t e a second book about porn, and give it your full attention.

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                                                                                                                                          • baddog
                                                                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                            • 107089
                                                                                                                                            #185
                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by MicroChick
                                                                                                                                            Folks, there were many people in the room. If one person acknowledges the "off the record" request, does that mean all of the other people must go along with it?
                                                                                                                                            Perhaps the "off the record" issue is what bothered Lensman, it however had nothing to do with the crime of tape recording a telephone call without the permission of all parties.

                                                                                                                                            That is what the AVN attorneys got involved for, the crime of tape recording a telephone conversation.

                                                                                                                                            Even if they did not say "off the record" there would still be a crime if all parties did not know the call was being recorded with an electronic device.

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                                                                                                                                              • icu33774
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                                                                                                                                                #186
                                                                                                                                                ok who did luke get the info from to hahahahaha the story? was it the guy who said off the record?
                                                                                                                                                Last edited by icu33774; 04-23-2004, 10:19 PM.
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                                                                                                                                                  • baddog
                                                                                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                    • 107089
                                                                                                                                                    #187
                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by icu33774
                                                                                                                                                    ok who did luke get the info from to hahahahaha the story? was it the guy who said off the record?
                                                                                                                                                    he taped it

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                                                                                                                                                      • MicroChick
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                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2002
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                                                                                                                                                        #188
                                                                                                                                                        Holly, I don't know anyone at A-V-N. I may have posted once there two years ago. I don't remember. I came here because Lensman is here. I like some of the decisions he has been making lately. I thought he would understand my concern about LF's resignation.

                                                                                                                                                        I have friends who post here. Yes, as strange as it may seem, I do have relationships with webmasters I have met on the boards. A-V-N has never given LF a break. (my opinion)

                                                                                                                                                        I just reread your post as Loryn suggested. You sound like you are a spider on the A-V-N wall. How do you know what A-V-N said or didn't say to their attorney, LF, and Lensman? They were pissed at Luke. So what else is new.

                                                                                                                                                        Loryn, I wonder what you would be saying if you weren't a Lensman employee. Lensman should be very proud of your professional behavior.

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                                                                                                                                                          • icu33774
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                                                                                                                                                            #189
                                                                                                                                                            I say bring luke to the board and lets end this once and for all. Because there is allways 2 sides to a story and we havnt heard anyones side yet.
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                                                                                                                                                              • MicroChick
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                                                                                                                                                                #190
                                                                                                                                                                Baddog, you just won't give up the SPEAKERPHONE bone!

                                                                                                                                                                I think the A-V-N attorney (s) was wrong about the taping issue. A speakerphone does not give one privacy. Prove that it does and I will shut up.

                                                                                                                                                                Also, this *off the record* crap is getting old. Luke didn't agree to the off the record request, and it appears that nobody pushed the issue until after the conversation appeared on the site. I didn't see it, but I will find someone who did and who has a copy. What is so bad about reading something you said on a speakerphone which is printed out on a website?

                                                                                                                                                                It reminds me of a YNOT radio person. He said he didn't want to be sued for saying something that may have offended a listener or two so he doesn't want his show to be archived. What kind of crap is that!!!!!!!!!!! If you are that lame and scared, what the hell are you doing in porn on a radio show!

                                                                                                                                                                Something is screwy about this entire mess!

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                                                                                                                                                                  • icu33774
                                                                                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                    • 1573
                                                                                                                                                                    #191
                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by Lensman
                                                                                                                                                                    If he's gonna post stuff that explictly stated "off the record", then he doesn't need to work for me.
                                                                                                                                                                    Well its his biz his call. But now im really confused because you say that lens should not accept luke's resignation. But here it sounds like lens let him go.

                                                                                                                                                                    Did you talk to luke about this before you came here to the boards?

                                                                                                                                                                    Why are you pushing this so hard. You need to back off of lens his biz his call.

                                                                                                                                                                    The issue of the whole tapeing is between luke and other partys

                                                                                                                                                                    What lens did was a biz call and why do you come to his neck off the woods and question his actions?
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                                                                                                                                                                      • StuartD
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                        #192
                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by MicroChick

                                                                                                                                                                        When I think of a speakerphone, I think of broadcasting...almost like ham radio. I don't know for sure who might be listening.
                                                                                                                                                                        It's funny how the California laws have no reference to "what MicroChick thinks of when she thinks of speakerphone"
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Loryn
                                                                                                                                                                            Super Connector
                                                                                                                                                                            • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                            • 12853
                                                                                                                                                                            #193
                                                                                                                                                                            Originally posted by MicroChick
                                                                                                                                                                            Folks, there were many people in the room. If one person acknowledges the "off the record" request, does that mean all of the other people must go along with it?

                                                                                                                                                                            No Replacement! I do think that certain people are not replaceable. If you take Serge away from O-prano, it starts to die. If Brad Shaw left his board, sponsors would leave...posters would wander off. I miss Shaw's posts on GFY. He is becoming too vanilla and too uncontroversial on just blow me.

                                                                                                                                                                            How do you replace the love of your life? Your soulmate? Don't get picky on me, Loryn. If LF were not special, Lensman would never have hired him. I have been covering w r i t e r s in porn for many years. There are none who have the style and the pizazz of Luke Ford.
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                                                                                                                                                                            Luke, all I ask for all my support is that you w r i t e a second book about porn, and give it your full attention.

                                                                                                                                                                            I am getting picky?? "How do you replace the love of your life? Your soul mate?" What does that have to do with the point of anyone?s "job" being replaced? That is what you were refereeing to right? No one can hahahahaha for Adult Beat?? He cannot be replaced??? I hate to break it to ya but anyone can be.

                                                                                                                                                                            ?If you take Serge away from O-prano, it starts to die.? Another board will pop up.

                                                                                                                                                                            ?If Brad Shaw left his board, sponsors would leave...posters would wander off.? And they could go to another board!!

                                                                                                                                                                            Sure things can get difficult when you replace someone, but you can find someone, some where, on this big huge planet of human beings, who is capable.

                                                                                                                                                                            One more thing, if the love of your life dies, sure no one can take his "place in your heart", but you can fall in love again.

                                                                                                                                                                            I am not wasting my time on this anymore!!! Nice chatting with you, see ya around the board!!
                                                                                                                                                                            ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~



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                                                                                                                                                                              • MicroChick
                                                                                                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                • 1277
                                                                                                                                                                                #194
                                                                                                                                                                                ICU, if everyone agreed, there would be no GFY.

                                                                                                                                                                                I came here because GFY is number one in posts. Regardless of what the competition says, GFY is still the leader. It's not perfect, but it is a very active place.

                                                                                                                                                                                Good night. And may all of you remember to turn off those damn speakerphones!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Holly
                                                                                                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                    • 10017
                                                                                                                                                                                    #195
                                                                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by MicroChick
                                                                                                                                                                                    Holly, I don't know anyone at A-V-N. I may have posted once there two years ago. I don't remember. I came here because Lensman is here. I like some of the decisions he has been making lately. I thought he would understand my concern about LF's resignation.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I have friends who post here. Yes, as strange as it may seem, I do have relationships with webmasters I have met on the boards. A-V-N has never given LF a break. (my opinion)

                                                                                                                                                                                    I just reread your post as Loryn suggested. You sound like you are a spider on the A-V-N wall. How do you know what A-V-N said or didn't say to their attorney, LF, and Lensman? They were pissed at Luke. So what else is new.

                                                                                                                                                                                    Loryn, I wonder what you would be saying if you weren't a Lensman employee. Lensman should be very proud of your professional behavior.
                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, you've figured me out. I'm a secret under cover agent for AVN, sent in to infiltrate GFY.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I wasn't asking you if you post on AVN. I merely suggested that since all of the gripes you wrote about in your post seemed to be geared toward AVN, then why not post them on their board? There's not much Lensman can do about any of those things you mentioned.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I also never wrote or implied that you don't have friends here or shouldn't post here, so I'm not sure what that comment was about.

                                                                                                                                                                                    And you're right, I don't know what AVN's attorney said to Lensman. I never claimed I did. I wrote: "Just because he <b>may</b> have said their attorney felt it was a felony..." As far as Paul Fishbein being the one who did the calling, that was printed in the article. I've seen nothing that said that wasn't so.

                                                                                                                                                                                    The only thing I assumed to know was that AVN did not go out and hire an attorney to threaten LF, like <b>you</b> wrote that they did. If Paul Cambria was not already their attorney and they hired him for the sole purpose of threatening Luke Ford, then I will apologize.

                                                                                                                                                                                    And if they were "threatening" him, you'd think they would have at least made some kind of contact with him, wouldn't you? They didn't. They made a complaint to his boss.
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Loryn
                                                                                                                                                                                        Super Connector
                                                                                                                                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                        • 12853
                                                                                                                                                                                        #196
                                                                                                                                                                                        Originally posted by MicroChick

                                                                                                                                                                                        Loryn, I wonder what you would be saying if you weren't a Lensman employee. Lensman should be very proud of your professional behavior.
                                                                                                                                                                                        I have no idea what I would think about it if I wasn't a Lensman employee, nor do I care. I heard it from the horses mouth. He even said it to you. I know he is not stupid or incapable of running his business the right way. He wouldn't be where he is today if he couldn't handle his business and make good decisions. The fact that you think he did not listen to everything that happened and handle the situation based on facts, blows me away!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                        Smooches girl, I am heading to bed now. Good luck!!!
                                                                                                                                                                                        ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~



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                                                                                                                                                                                          • MicroChick
                                                                                                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                            • 1277
                                                                                                                                                                                            #197
                                                                                                                                                                                            Holly, I enjoyed reading your comments.

                                                                                                                                                                                            It wouldn't matter to me if it were A-V-N, or any number of adult businesses. Luke has been sued in the past. He also has been threatened many times. He can take care of himself. I just like the guy and have fun defending him.

                                                                                                                                                                                            There are certain Luke haters who get royally pissed when I talk favorably about him. Pornboards, for me, are great places to just let it all hang out. I don't take them seriously until I see that someone has dragged attorneys into the picture. Then I step back and take a long hard look at the people who feel they can't handle a sticky situation on their own. Most are assholes. Most go after a little guy who can't fight back. I feel that is what A-V-N did.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              • TDF
                                                                                                                                                                                                Triple OG nigga on GFY
                                                                                                                                                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                • 27296
                                                                                                                                                                                                #198
                                                                                                                                                                                                so this is what they call a redundant thread...ive only heard of these special kind of threads..carry on
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • icu33774
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                    • 1573
                                                                                                                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                                                                                                                    "I just like the guy and have fun defending him"

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ones fun is someones nightmare right now not funny nor fun!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • pornstar2pac
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                        • 17380
                                                                                                                                                                                                        #200
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lens, off the record....... Lakers or Kings? who's going to the finals?
                                                                                                                                                                                                        Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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