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  • DrewKole
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 5193
    #1

    Who's scrubbing the least right now?

    It seems both Epoch and CCBill are out to fuck over me right now.

    Jettis any better?

    I need to switch all my promotion away from these 2 cockknockers for now.
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    • m00d
      So Fucking Banned
      • May 2002
      • 3129
      #2
      Have scrubs gone insane for everyone? What's up CCbill? Help a brother out . .

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        • TheDoc
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 13827
          #3
          aye its fucking nuts..

          78% denials today
          34% yesterday
          36% on the 19th

          What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.
          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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            • m00d
              So Fucking Banned
              • May 2002
              • 3129
              #4
              Originally posted by TheDoc
              aye its fucking nuts..

              78% denials today
              34% yesterday
              36% on the 19th

              What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.
              oh my god

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                • LadyMischief
                  Orgasms N Such!
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 18135
                  #5
                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                  aye its fucking nuts..

                  78% denials today
                  34% yesterday
                  36% on the 19th

                  What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.
                  Yeah, seems the more sales you make with less chargebacks or refunds, the harder they scrub you.

                  ICQ 3522039
                  Content Manager - orgasm.com
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                    • DreamCumTrue
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 2985
                      #6
                      Jettis is a great company!

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                        • Rankings
                          Adult SEO
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10633
                          #7
                          good luck with that buddy
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                            • DrewKole
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 5193
                              #8
                              Someone needs to get their shit together, this is completely unacceptable...

                              Best part is, no CCBill or Epoch rep ever bothers to respond to these threads... which they are bound to fucking read.

                              These guys piss me off to no end.

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                                • TheDoc
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 13827
                                  #9
                                  Maybe I should set-up each site with 2 different VISA contacts, split the joins up so it lowers the total sales and maybe I can slip under the RAPE-o-meter some.
                                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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                                    • GoGoBar
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2002
                                      • 1439
                                      #10
                                      This is why you need to cascade with a powerful system like http://nats.toomuchmedia.com

                                      [end blatant spam]

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                                        • TheDoc
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 13827
                                          #11
                                          I use NATS

                                          Epoch, to CCbill, CC for both and checking and Web900..

                                          If Epoch kick'em, only about 10% will make it through CCbill.
                                          ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                          It's all disambiguation

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                                            • TaDoW
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2001
                                              • 3875
                                              #12
                                              I don't know, CCbill has been good to us lately ... some wonkey #'s over the past 2 weeks, and vastly changing polarity of "popular" join times ... (for example, this week it seems way more joins come in between 10 am and 2 pm, and last week the more popular time was late late evening/early morngin, and before that we hardly had any joins before noon, and all of a sudden they'd come pouring in) I can understand trends, but they usually change slowly over a period of weeks or months, not days ...

                                              Epoch, on the other hand, has taken 24 hours to respond to a password request by me, and their call in "support" staff is next to worthless, all they say is "send an email" ... wtf? Ain't nuthin but love guys - but that seriously has to be taken care of. CCbill's support staff will pick their nose and eat it for you if you want them to.
                                              Last edited by TaDoW; 04-21-2004, 09:40 AM.
                                              -TaDoW

                                              I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

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                                                • corvette
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                  • 7880
                                                  #13
                                                  Drew, im here

                                                  we had some intermittent network issues yesterday, not sure if that is what you may be referring to?

                                                  if you would like your declines looked at over a certain period of time, icq me and I will make sure that this gets done

                                                  Nothing has recently changed anywhere as far as scrubbing goes

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                                                    • TheDoc
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 13827
                                                      #14
                                                      Good'ol CCbill steps up the plate
                                                      ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                      It's all disambiguation

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                                                        • Va2k
                                                          I’m still alive barley.
                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                          • 10060
                                                          #15
                                                          Yea I've gotten alot of declines to day and failed rebills... Hope they fix this shit asap...


                                                          TOM

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                                                            • m00d
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • May 2002
                                                              • 3129
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by corvett


                                                              Nothing has recently changed anywhere as far as scrubbing goes

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                                                                • ace0r
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 1410
                                                                  #17
                                                                  may want to look into adult merchant accts

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                                                                    • corvette
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 7880
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by m00d

                                                                      what can i help with?
                                                                      If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                                                                        • Trax
                                                                          [----------------------]
                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                          • 14486
                                                                          #19
                                                                          whoever says that there are no changes is not telling thruth

                                                                          scrubbing has been way worse during the last days

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                                                                            • corvette
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                              • 7880
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Trax
                                                                              whoever says that there are no changes is not telling thruth

                                                                              scrubbing has been way worse during the last days
                                                                              im saying it and i try to be truthful; if you want to talk about your declines, icq me
                                                                              If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                                                                                • TaDoW
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                  • 3875
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                  whoever says that there are no changes is not telling thruth

                                                                                  scrubbing has been way worse during the last days
                                                                                  I'd at least talk with corvett first before making statements like that. he's a very knowledgable guy and can help you out a lot. It never hurts to have a good relationship with your processor.
                                                                                  -TaDoW

                                                                                  I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

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                                                                                    • Va2k
                                                                                      I’m still alive barley.
                                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                                      • 10060
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by TaDoW


                                                                                      I'd at least talk with corvett first before making statements like that. he's a very knowledgable guy and can help you out a lot. It never hurts to have a good relationship with your processor.

                                                                                      I agree but ass kissing just sucks









                                                                                      J/k just having a little fun

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                                                                                        • fletcher
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jan 2003
                                                                                          • 698
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by TaDoW


                                                                                          I'd at least talk with corvett first before making statements like that. he's a very knowledgable guy and can help you out a lot. It never hurts to have a good relationship with your processor.
                                                                                          Agreed, Mark is a great guy and has always been more than helpful.
                                                                                           
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                                                                                            • TaDoW
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                              • 3875
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by va2k



                                                                                              I agree but ass kissing just sucks









                                                                                              J/k just having a little fun
                                                                                              hehe =) I've always been an ass kisser .... helped get me 4.0's in a lot of college classes when I deserved like a 3.5 ... helps me out every day in business ... saved me twice from being canned in middle school. that in itself is worth it
                                                                                              -TaDoW

                                                                                              I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

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                                                                                                • LadyMischief
                                                                                                  Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                  • 18135
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by DrewKole
                                                                                                  Someone needs to get their shit together, this is completely unacceptable...

                                                                                                  Best part is, no CCBill or Epoch rep ever bothers to respond to these threads... which they are bound to fucking read.

                                                                                                  These guys piss me off to no end.
                                                                                                  Yeah they do hide from it, or make excuses

                                                                                                  ICQ 3522039
                                                                                                  Content Manager - orgasm.com
                                                                                                  [email protected]

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                                                                                                    • LadyMischief
                                                                                                      Orgasms N Such!
                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                      • 18135
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Except corvett, he's brave

                                                                                                      ICQ 3522039
                                                                                                      Content Manager - orgasm.com
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                                                                                                        • TaDoW
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                                          • 3875
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by LadyMischief
                                                                                                          Except corvett, he's brave
                                                                                                          tee hee =)
                                                                                                          -TaDoW

                                                                                                          I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

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                                                                                                            • Va2k
                                                                                                              I’m still alive barley.
                                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                                              • 10060
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by TaDoW


                                                                                                              hehe =) I've always been an ass kisser .... helped get me 4.0's in a lot of college classes when I deserved like a 3.5 ... helps me out every day in business ... saved me twice from being canned in middle school. that in itself is worth it
                                                                                                              See that is why I like you, you can take a joke and laugh at it

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                                                                                                                • TheDoc
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                  • 13827
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TaDoW


                                                                                                                  tee hee =)
                                                                                                                  Are you a guy? If so you can't say tee hee.. It's just not right.
                                                                                                                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                                  It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                                    • notjoe
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                                                      • 5599
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DrewKole
                                                                                                                      It seems both Epoch and CCBill are out to fuck over me right now.

                                                                                                                      Jettis any better?

                                                                                                                      I need to switch all my promotion away from these 2 cockknockers for now.
                                                                                                                      Not me, I use someone other than anyone you've listed for my credit card processing.... want to give my Pay Per View site a shot and see how well it does?

                                                                                                                      Hit me up on ICQ at 5956902

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                                                                                                                        • DrewKole
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                          • 5193
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I just think the whole mentality of the processors in general is stupid.

                                                                                                                          Im sorry, but when you're used to doing 1:150, day in and day out, and then a couple days pop up at 0:4000. Something is wrong, and someone is doing their job wrong.

                                                                                                                          To say, everything is running fine, etc. etc. is an insult to our intelligence.

                                                                                                                          How bout someone actually cough up some fucking truth around here, and say something like

                                                                                                                          "Well, we've been getting alot of fraud on some of our accounts, and in order to keep ourselves under the Visa radar, we decided to go ahead and just deny 90% of all transactions for the next two days. That will go ahead and give us a little bit better daily average of chargebacks."

                                                                                                                          And don't even bother to quote me the law of averages.

                                                                                                                          Those 3 words are severely played out.

                                                                                                                          Im just venting, my foodstamps are a week late here in Texas. =(
                                                                                                                          Last edited by DrewKole; 04-21-2004, 10:08 AM.

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                                                                                                                            • TaDoW
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                              • 3875
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc


                                                                                                                              Are you a guy? If so you can't say tee hee.. It's just not right.
                                                                                                                              lol =) the pillsbury dough boy is a guy and he says it all the time!
                                                                                                                              -TaDoW

                                                                                                                              I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

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                                                                                                                                • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 13827
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by DrewKole
                                                                                                                                  I just think the whole mentality of the processors in general is stupid.

                                                                                                                                  Im sorry, but when you're used to doing 1:150, day in and day out, and then a couple days pop up at 0:4000. Something is wrong, and someone is doing their job wrong.

                                                                                                                                  To say, everything is running fine, etc. etc. is an insult to our intelligence.

                                                                                                                                  How bout someone actually cough up some fucking truth around here, and say something like

                                                                                                                                  "Well, we've been getting alot of fraud on some of our accounts, and in order to keep ourselves under the Visa radar, we decided to go ahead and just deny 90% of all transactions for the next two days. That will go ahead and give us a little bit better daily average of chargebacks."

                                                                                                                                  And don't even bother to quote me the law of averages.

                                                                                                                                  Those 3 words are severely played out.

                                                                                                                                  Im just venting, my foodstamps are a week late here in Texas. =(

                                                                                                                                  I agree 100%...

                                                                                                                                  No way in gods earth that nobody changes anything and declines go from 3-10% all the way up to 30%+ and in a few days it will drop back down as if nothing happened.

                                                                                                                                  I'm starting to think scrub is 100% chance on 'possible good' transactions. Of course known bad or blocked countries are dropped from the start. The rest is a random role of the dice, you either crap out or keep going. Sometimes it's all CRAP!
                                                                                                                                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                                                  It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                                                    • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 13827
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TaDoW


                                                                                                                                      lol =) the pillsbury dough boy is a guy and he says it all the time!


                                                                                                                                      Do you look like him?
                                                                                                                                      ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                                                      It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                                                        • TaDoW
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 3875
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TheDoc




                                                                                                                                          Do you look like him?

                                                                                                                                          hmm... I'm ghostly white because I live in seattle ... and a little pudgy around the mid section ... but although BrettJ likes to poke me in the tummy (NOT LIKE THAT!) until I say "Tee Hee" I don't think I'm that pudgy
                                                                                                                                          -TaDoW

                                                                                                                                          I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

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                                                                                                                                            • fletcher
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 698
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TaDoW



                                                                                                                                              hmm... I'm ghostly white because I live in seattle ... and a little pudgy around the mid section ... but although BrettJ likes to poke me in the tummy (NOT LIKE THAT!) until I say "Tee Hee" I don't think I'm that pudgy
                                                                                                                                              "Not like that" my ass.
                                                                                                                                               
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                                                                                                                                                • TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 13827
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by fletcher


                                                                                                                                                  "Not like that" my ass.
                                                                                                                                                  You mean "his" ass, right?
                                                                                                                                                  ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
                                                                                                                                                  It's all disambiguation

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                                                                                                                                                    • BradM
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 3397
                                                                                                                                                      #38

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                                                                                                                                                        • corvette
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 7880
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by DrewKole
                                                                                                                                                          "Well, we've been getting alot of fraud on some of our accounts, and in order to keep ourselves under the Visa radar, we decided to go ahead and just deny 90% of all transactions for the next two days. That will go ahead and give us a little bit better daily average of chargebacks."
                                                                                                                                                          drew, contrary to popular belief, at least with CCBill, we do not adjust the scrubbing on a daily basis to help alleviate chargebacks that may come in a few weeks or months later.

                                                                                                                                                          And I do agree with you, if a ratio suddenly drops, then I think that it would become a priority to investigate it; absolutely

                                                                                                                                                          However, by investigate, I don?t mean to stop at the processor, I mean to look at your server traffic logs to see if your hits to the ?join? page decreased, or are the # or percentage of declines up or down, or is there a specific decline reason, does your card go through, etc?.continue the troubleshooting rather than stop at ?must be the scrub?

                                                                                                                                                          The process is completely auditable, every decline and the reason for which can be retrieved

                                                                                                                                                          icq me
                                                                                                                                                          If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                                                                                                                                                            • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                                                                                                                              www.TastyDollars.com
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 6797
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                                                                              aye its fucking nuts..

                                                                                                                                                              78% denials today
                                                                                                                                                              34% yesterday
                                                                                                                                                              36% on the 19th

                                                                                                                                                              What is fucking nuts is I have a .09% CB ratio, hell my refunds are under 1% and yet I still get my balls scrubed with a brilo pad.
                                                                                                                                                              Fuck!

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