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  • media
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    • Apr 2002
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    #1

    Designers: Design Whores?

    Not trying to be a dick or anything....

    BUT have any of you noticed the rediculously low prices some designers are putting on their spec sheets??

    Even though I am not looking for work, I am kinda pissed by this as a fellow designer, because others suffer..

    One person for example has tour pages for $100 for a short tour, and $200 for a long tour. Now admitedly these are not super site quality tours.. but for christs sake.. At least use numbers that are somewhat within the margins of industry standard pricing..

    There's a difference between being competative and being a total whore.. There's also circumstances such as being new and cutting breaks to get into the market.. Theres also people who know how much their ideas and concepts are worth to companies..

    But to make hard firm prices that low on your portfolio ...
    Call me a dick, but this is my



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    I'm here for the violence!
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    • The Truth Hurts
      Zph7YXfjMhg
      • Nov 2002
      • 15775
      #2
      the ones with the insanely low prices usually suck... unless they're from some third world country... like canada.

      99% of their shit is copied either directly or indirectly from something else..

      hell, this applies to most of the bigger design houses as well..
      999 barely different variations of the same two design formulas they didn't even come up with in their portfolio with a different color scheme applied.

      people that are serious about their shit stick with those designers that know what the fuck they're doing (there aren't many)... even if the work isn't as "pretty" as some others.

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        • Headless
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          • Jan 2001
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          #3
          Bro think of it like this... Most of this industry is unproffessional as it is... What makes you think they are gunna be any different in this case. Someone gets a copy of photoshop and they become a designer. Next thing you you you have clients coming up to you asking for a quote on a job. And then they turn around and say, well so and so will give it to me for X amount lower then you.

          Its all bullshit. The rats will never go away.

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            • Creative
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2004
              • 1252
              #4
              $8.00 banners yaheard? lol

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                • media
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                  • Apr 2002
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by Headless
                  Bro think of it like this... Most of this industry is unproffessional as it is... What makes you think they are gunna be any different in this case. Someone gets a copy of photoshop and they become a designer. Next thing you you you have clients coming up to you asking for a quote on a job. And then they turn around and say, well so and so will give it to me for X amount lower then you.

                  Its all bullshit. The rats will never go away.
                  Well, theres always competetive pricing and bargaining.. thats a game of life.. but to put your prices at rock bottom, thats pathetic, and fucks it up for others who work hard to make money..

                  $100 tour, and charging $20 for an animated banner? Where the fuck is the logic in that?
                  I'm here for the violence!

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                    • Headless
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                      • Jan 2001
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                      #6
                      Originally posted by media


                      Well, theres always competetive pricing and bargaining.. thats a game of life.. but to put your prices at rock bottom, thats pathetic, and fucks it up for others who work hard to make money..

                      $100 tour, and charging $20 for an animated banner? Where the fuck is the logic in that?
                      The only logic you will find is someone who hired 50 mexicans for 2 beans an hour pumping tours out like crazy.

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                        • Ironhorse
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                          • Nov 2002
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                          #7
                          A lot of times you have high school kids doing this to dodge a BK or McD job, $100 is mucho dinero to these folks
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                            • mind
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                              • Apr 2004
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                              #8
                              what you all said :D

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                                • Persius
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                                  • Jul 2003
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                                  #9
                                  nice post

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                                    • 421Fill
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                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 20659
                                      #10
                                      yeah, I'll do deals for repeat clients, but I keep my std prices normal on my site.

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                                        • eroswebmaster
                                          March 1st, 2003
                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 20295
                                          #11
                                          Funny thing is I keep raising my prices
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                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                              • Mar 2003
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                                              #12
                                              I list some great designers on my own design site, not just people I like but tried and true designers with a good rep.

                                              If your good there is tons of work to be done.
                                              Fakers ruin themseves but it takes a few people a while to learn to go with consistant and experienced guys.

                                              SO when I see a post about how shitty a designer is I already know the story pretty much I've read em millions of times and 9 times out of 10 it is the whinners fault for cutting corners on things they want to get done.
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                                                • Roald
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                                                  on the other hand, there are a lot of people who call themselfs designers and ask redicilously high prices for crap


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                                                    • media
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                      on the other hand, there are a lot of people who call themselfs designers and ask redicilously high prices for crap
                                                      Lol.. very true, but those people at least don't drive the market into the dirt because they fool people into thinking that is competative pricing...
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                                                        • Shaze
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                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by media
                                                          Not trying to be a dick or anything....

                                                          BUT have any of you noticed the rediculously low prices some designers are putting on their spec sheets??

                                                          Even though I am not looking for work, I am kinda pissed by this as a fellow designer, because others suffer..

                                                          One person for example has tour pages for $100 for a short tour, and $200 for a long tour. Now admitedly these are not super site quality tours.. but for christs sake.. At least use numbers that are somewhat within the margins of industry standard pricing..

                                                          There's a difference between being competative and being a total whore.. There's also circumstances such as being new and cutting breaks to get into the market.. Theres also people who know how much their ideas and concepts are worth to companies..

                                                          But to make hard firm prices that low on your portfolio ...
                                                          Call me a dick, but this is my



                                                          Any Serious comments on this?
                                                          part of economic globlization.....price/competition transparency ..most of these cheap prices come from countries where $200 dollars is worth alot.
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                                                            • Ash@phpFX
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                                                              • Nov 2003
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                                                              #16
                                                              i think most of the time you get what you pay for

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                                                                • Ironhorse
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                                                                  • Nov 2002
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster
                                                                  Funny thing is I keep raising my prices
                                                                  You money grubbing whore
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                                                                    • Platinumpimp
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      outsourcing definately sucks
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                                                                        • eroswebmaster
                                                                          March 1st, 2003
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 20295
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Ironhorse


                                                                          You money grubbing whore
                                                                          I charge ridiculously high prices for crap.
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                                                                            • media
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Shaze


                                                                              part of economic globlization.....price/competition transparency ..most of these cheap prices come from countries where $200 dollars is worth alot.
                                                                              I know what you're talking about, but to be good at what you do, and to charge $100-$200 for a tour, when you could easily get $400-800 per tour? Is that logical?

                                                                              Even if in a country where $100 = $1000 for someone who may be slave trading designers all day long they should have a sense of how much more they could make all day long even if they raised their prices to just beat standard pricing...
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                                                                                • media
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                                                                                  I charge ridiculously high prices for crap.
                                                                                  But some of the shit you won't give away or sell, so people have to steal it..
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                                                                                    • Roald
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                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                      • 27910
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by media


                                                                                      Lol.. very true, but those people at least don't drive the market into the dirt because they fool people into thinking that is competative pricing...
                                                                                      True, I know my pricing isn't too high but it is a result of my own success.
                                                                                      When I started out with designing I wasn't sure if people would like my work so I asked prices like 350 for a compete sitedesign. Since than I raised my pricing due to me going fulltime and bad dollarrates and ofcourse because of the increase of the quality.

                                                                                      Now I charge $550 for the same package and still people tell me I should raise my prices allthough I think they are good compared with the quality. I am fully booked for this month, working on a huge project and making a nice living of it.

                                                                                      Bottom point is, I don't think I can raise my prices much more as I think I would get way less orders. But maybe with the next update of my site they will be a bit higher again

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                                                                                        • shima
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by QuaShe
                                                                                          on the other hand, there are a lot of people who call themselfs designers and ask redicilously high prices for crap
                                                                                          True true..

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                                                                                            • Ironhorse
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by eroswebmaster


                                                                                              I charge ridiculously high prices for crap.
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                                                                                                • Ironhorse
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by QuaShe


                                                                                                  True, I know my pricing isn't too high but it is a result of my own success.
                                                                                                  When I started out with designing I wasn't sure if people would like my work so I asked prices like 350 for a compete sitedesign. Since than I raised my pricing due to me going fulltime and bad dollarrates and ofcourse because of the increase of the quality.

                                                                                                  Now I charge $550 for the same package and still people tell me I should raise my prices allthough I think they are good compared with the quality. I am fully booked for this month, working on a huge project and making a nice living of it.

                                                                                                  Bottom point is, I don't think I can raise my prices much more as I think I would get way less orders. But maybe with the next update of my site they will be a bit higher again

                                                                                                  Q.
                                                                                                  You are a victim to the usual artist mentality: Most people think they want more money than they really do, and settle for a lot less than they could get
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                                                                                                    • beemk
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                                                                                                      wait till $5 submissions teaches his crew to design. then you will all be fucked.
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                                                                                                        • MrJackMeHoff
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                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Kind of reminds me of Web Hosts eh? All these loser hosts on here reselling and overselling gigs for 20cents and shit. What a laugh and it kills real business.

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                                                                                                            • basschick
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              i agree - even if you do need to undercut everyone else, why not undercut them 20%? why 80 or 90%? you're keeping yourself from making that money.

                                                                                                              the same thing happens in other areas. i used to hahahahaha stories for people, and i charged less than other people, but enough so i was comfortable. then this guy comes along and he hahahahahas custom stories for $8. well, fuck - i sure don't plan to charge $5.

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                                                                                                                • bling_machine
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                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Totally agree with you.

                                                                                                                  I wouldn't call them whores though; maybe more like fast food service workers. Working for minimum wage cranking out shit design that's the equivalent to a mass-produced microwavable burger.

                                                                                                                  I am amazed in general at how low adult design prices are in relation to mainstream graphic and web design. Anybody with half a brain knows that good design costs good money.

                                                                                                                  If you hire somebody to work for min wage, you might as well fire up Photoshop and throw something together yourself.



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                                                                                                                    • Jakke PNG
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                                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                      • 20306
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by basschick
                                                                                                                      i agree - even if you do need to undercut everyone else, why not undercut them 20%? why 80 or 90%? you're keeping yourself from making that money.

                                                                                                                      the same thing happens in other areas. i used to hahahahaha stories for people, and i charged less than other people, but enough so i was comfortable. then this guy comes along and he hahahahahas custom stories for $8. well, fuck - i sure don't plan to charge $5.

                                                                                                                      They don't feel they're worth anymore, and well.. most of others as well I'd imagine...
                                                                                                                      I would personally never buy stuff if I could do it better myself, no matter how cheap. But that's the designer in me talking. .lol

                                                                                                                      ..oh, and I bought those $8 stories, they were worth it.. and I couldn't hahahahaha those Sorry hun.
                                                                                                                      ..and I'm off.

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                                                                                                                        • dunefield
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                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          You get what you pay for...

                                                                                                                          simple as that...

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                                                                                                                            • mind
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                                                                                                                              • Apr 2004
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              lol...i just read this thread again.. and then this got posted...right in the spirit of things
                                                                                                                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=272123

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                                                                                                                                • Roald
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                                                                                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dunefield
                                                                                                                                  You get what you pay for...

                                                                                                                                  simple as that...
                                                                                                                                  Not always


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                                                                                                                                    • Quatermain
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Why list prices?

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                                                                                                                                        • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Media 95 % of the big players would pay 4k $ for a great converting tour even tough prices are lower . Money isn't everything . When you become big, the small differences in a good tour and an EXCELLENT tour becomes so big (hundread $s a day) that they MUST get good service .

                                                                                                                                          You can't go nowhere without a good tour so anybody that get fooled will just waste 200 $ .
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
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                                                                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by dunefield
                                                                                                                                              You get what you pay for...

                                                                                                                                              simple as that...
                                                                                                                                              Nop I just whored myself . I did a design that I tought would take me an hour ... it's been 6 now .

                                                                                                                                              I charged 100 $ . I gave a very good service to the guy and he's quite happy so that's what matter .
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by rayadp05
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                                                                                                                                                • mammy
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                                                                                                                                                  thing is simple
                                                                                                                                                  some one lives in LA and someone lives in india or russia
                                                                                                                                                  someone needs 6k to live ok in his area
                                                                                                                                                  and someone can have 3-4k per month and will be happy with it for sure

                                                                                                                                                  that's market in the 21 century

                                                                                                                                                  best thing in this situation everyone has his own clients
                                                                                                                                                  mikew is booked up with his own clients
                                                                                                                                                  webinc bluedesign and ryan with their own
                                                                                                                                                  and there is also enough space for small companies and individuals like shima from www.gold-design.com
                                                                                                                                                  quashe from www.adultdesignstudios.com or me

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                                                                                                                                                    • Roald
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mammy
                                                                                                                                                      thing is simple
                                                                                                                                                      some one lives in LA and someone lives in india or russia
                                                                                                                                                      someone needs 6k to live ok in his area
                                                                                                                                                      and someone can have 3-4k per month and will be happy with it for sure

                                                                                                                                                      that's market in the 21 century

                                                                                                                                                      best thing in this situation everyone has his own clients
                                                                                                                                                      mikew is booked up with his own clients
                                                                                                                                                      webinc bluedesign and ryan with their own
                                                                                                                                                      and there is also enough space for small companies and individuals like shima from www.gold-design.com
                                                                                                                                                      quashe from www.adultdesignstudios.com or me
                                                                                                                                                      True, business is better than ever and I have to turn down offers due to me being fully booked.

                                                                                                                                                      Btw low pricing doesn't nessecarely mean low income




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                                                                                                                                                          Cheap cheap

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                                                                                                                                                              cheap move

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                                                                                                                                                                    • AdultDesigners
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                                                                                                                                                                      We do tour pages with $ 50 !!! 100 is way too much !
                                                                                                                                                                      JOKING !
                                                                                                                                                                      Well there is a true fact livig in a country where $ is powerfull means you can affort more from small ammount of $
                                                                                                                                                                      This means that the fixed costs of having a company, hiring profesional designer are low, so you can be more competitive. Meaning you can do great work at lower prices.

                                                                                                                                                                      So .. I think that customers shall go to whom can offer great quality for lowest prices.

                                                                                                                                                                      So .. my oppinion is that there are a lot of bulshiters who wants to grab some bucks, but there are also a lot of talented company leaving in a "cheap" country that allows them to be much more competitive than US companies !
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                                                                                                                                                                        • BlueDesignStudios
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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by QuaShe


                                                                                                                                                                          True, business is better than ever and I have to turn down offers due to me being fully booked.

                                                                                                                                                                          Btw low pricing doesn't nessecarely mean low income


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                                                                                                                                                                            • media
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Cheap isn't good, and good isn't cheap!!!
                                                                                                                                                                              I'm here for the violence!

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                                                                                                                                                                                • AdultDesigners
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Cheap is relative.

                                                                                                                                                                                  100 usd may be cheap for you .. but is 1 month sallary for a proffesor in Republic of Moldavia for instance.

                                                                                                                                                                                  What is cheap for you .. might be acceptable for someone else in other country.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • media
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by AdultDesigners
                                                                                                                                                                                      Cheap is relative.

                                                                                                                                                                                      100 usd may be cheap for you .. but is 1 month sallary for a proffesor in Republic of Moldavia for instance.

                                                                                                                                                                                      What is cheap for you .. might be acceptable for someone else in other country.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Someone who makes $100 on a paysite tour is setting their limits a little low if they are able to make more by industry standards.. I'm talking total rock bottom pricing here.. This is patheticly low, I would tell you that you were a fucking fool to your face if you sold yourself out that cheap.. One reason, why live for 1 month, when you can live for 6 months off your one design if you can get $600 for the design lets say..

                                                                                                                                                                                      Get my drift? Charging only $100 per tour only makes others suffer cuz $100 to you is like $600, is bullshit.. What if they are around the same skill level and from the US and need to make more money to survive..

                                                                                                                                                                                      If I design something for someone in a poor country you better believe your ass Im gonna charge american rates, Im not gonna say "oh but their money is worth way less, so I should discount it alot so they pay equivelant of $600 in their money" lol
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • media
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          To summarize my feelings a bit, your taking american dollars, charge american fucking rates...

                                                                                                                                                                                          Maybe we could start paying $1 per signup to those people who are in other countries, cuz our $1 is worth $25 there...

                                                                                                                                                                                          Sound realistic?? Lol
                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm here for the violence!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Roald
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by media
                                                                                                                                                                                              To summarize my feelings a bit, your taking american dollars, charge american fucking rates...

                                                                                                                                                                                              Maybe we could start paying $1 per signup to those people who are in other countries, cuz our $1 is worth $25 there...

                                                                                                                                                                                              Sound realistic?? Lol
                                                                                                                                                                                              haha now that would be nice


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                                                                                                                                                                                                • KraZ
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Headless


                                                                                                                                                                                                  The only logic you will find is someone who hired 50 mexicans for 2 beans an hour pumping tours out like crazy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  2 beans per hour )))) Now that's funny! Just think of all the fart jokes...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Roald
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by KraZ


                                                                                                                                                                                                      2 beans per hour )))) Now that's funny! Just think of all the fart jokes...
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thats where the farthammer came from


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