Windows Longhorn Edition

Think ill wait till they get XP right

I doubt XP will still be in dev once LH is released.

doubt it, doesn't really look THAT hot...

Its NEVER a good idea to get the first edition of a Windows product.

Yeah I probably will but not on my main box

I absolutely despise Microsoft, and will not adopt their new OS. After XP, I'm making the switch to Linux.

Some "interesting" food for thought..

http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#longhorn

Quotes:

"The most important feature of Longhorn is replacement of the familiar DOS/Windows filesystem with an object database (W0). You will no longer copy files to a floppy or CD-ROM or attach them to an email, because there will be no files. Database records will be copied from one database to another, probably through a .NET server. Large organizations will have their own .NET servers, but everyone else will use one of Microsoft's, a service for which you will pay a fee."

"Current Windows based software will not be compatible with the Longhorn filesystem (W26. Microsoft has already stated that all their own software has to be rewritten for it - so will everyone else's. This will eliminate a huge number of software titles which are useful, but not sufficiently profitable to justify rewriting them. Others will fail because their conversion won't be done in time to compete with Microsoft products."

"Given Microsoft's enthusiasm for "rich data formats", I expect Longhorn is going to eat disk space at an alarming rate. Perhaps this is why Microsoft has suddenly taken a strong interest in storage technology and services (W9). It's also going to be a major backup problem, so watch for Microsoft to start offering .NET backup services (for which you will pay a fee)."


+++ More interesting stuff on Microsoft's plans to kill all competing Operating Systems including Linux +++

"Microsoft's current push is to have complete control over hardware design and availability. The practice of issuing joint Intel / Microsoft PC design specifications came to an end with the PC 2001 issue (J2). Microsoft alone now specifies PC design, leaving Intel as only a manufacturer (J3). This control is now made final and all encompasing by the Athens PC design.

Microsoft has three pressing reasons for seizing control of hardware design:

* DRM (Digital Rights Management): Microsoft is assuring the motion picture and recording industries it will be the "safe" channel for distributing digital content that cannot be pirated. Credibility of this claim requires complete control of the hardware Windows will run on (see also Palladium and Home and Entertainment below).
* Home Electronics: With XBox, Microsoft has started a move to control household electronics and entertainment. This goes hand in hand with their DRM efforts - Microsoft hardware will be the only means by which much entertainment content will be available, and competing DRM schemes can be blocked. The "Athens" PC extends this control to the telphone system.
* Open Source: Competition from Open Source products like Linux is being taken very seriously by Microsoft. It is already hindering their expansion in the business market, and they certainly don't want that to happen in the home market. By controlling the hardware platform they can assure that open source products do not have access to important hardware features. They have already stated that Palladium will not be ported to non-Windows platforms."

Loads of features, including the entirely DB based FS got ripped out of longhorn, as far as I know. Microsoft need to get longhorn finished before linux gets up to scratch with XP.

As for me, I decided I'd had enough of Windows a while back and switched to OS X instead, makes my life a lot easier (no crashes, viruses, spyware etc).

See you in 2014 then

I've been a member of MSDN for a couple of years(work paid for it) and I was suposed to have it already, but nothing! I have the key but no disk yet. Fuck them.

I was hoping that Longhorn would have included the new object database architecture, because I'm more than sure it would have been a serious disaster for Microsoft. My feeling is that .net is still far ahead of it's time, and won't fly just yet. They've been having nothing but problems with it, and having mixed its use into their new OS would have certainly added a ton of fuel to the fire as it pissed off more and more SOHO and home users.

Micro$oft

It's a 64 bit version.

I'd like to test it on my Athlon.

That article was written in 2002 for fucks sake

LOL

Onwed.

longhorn? weird name for windows

I think Longhorn is still just the production name, and not the actual release name.

As for picking it up, I'm going to just say no. Maybe if it wasn't for all that DRM crap, then maybe I would think about it. But so long as that crap is in there, then I'll be going to Linux real fast.

That's not the point, some of that is from 2001, 2002, 2003 and right up to present. The point is, it gives you a window into Microsoft and how they do business. It also offers some valuable insight on what you can expect in the future should you travel down that road..

OS X on PC?

funny you say that, I've yet to crash XP, that includes the times I import 1000 1.4 mb files into photoshop at a time while surfing the net and chatting on IM's.

But I've crashed Red Hat several times recently.


I would bet on it being called Windows 64, longhorn is the production name as stated.


OS-x is unix based and has long been ported off macs.

OSX was ported from FreeBSD for the mac

I'll buy it - after the 2nd service pack is out.

really? neat shit, wondered why it was so similar to freebsd lol

Indeed, and its 100X more stable than any linux distro will ever be!