Second Female HIV positive

this from mikesouth.com

AIM Begins To Back Pedal, Apparently Someone is Reading What I am Saying: From AVN.com

"It is not known at this time if Roxx contracted HIV from James, but it has been assumed by most to be the case. "

FUCK!!!

Oh shit ...

There is really a need for performers to be in quarantine for a while when they come back to the country

i guess more pornstar are gonna have to be using condoms pretty soon

i wa thinking that same thing, if sharon mitchell kept such close tabs on everything, why wasn't there a quarantine when returning from places like brazil?

This is getting worse and worse

Jace,

It does not say that two women are HIV positive.....

From AVN.com -

CHATSWORTH, Calif. - Another woman has been added to the first-generation list, raising the number of performers that had sexual contact with Darren James, the veteran performer whose HIV-positive status sent the industry into a state of emergency on Tuesday, to thirteen as the mainstream media swarms Porn Valley looking for information on the two HIV-positive performers, Darren James and Lara Roxx.


At this time it is not known that Roxx caught the HIV virus from James, but it has been assumed by most to be the case.

They really need to test more often. 30 days is a long time to catch something.

I'm now getting tested, & all that shoot for me - every 14 days.

And all my productions are condom only.

read the second post in this thread...it said it oriiginally, then they retracted it by putting something else in its place

i guarantee tomorrow dynasty will be on the front of avn with hiv

oh WOW

now they have completely removed ANY of that all together

looks like avn jumped the gun on that one, huh?

if they want to play russian roulette, let them go for it...idiots.

AVN has been fucking up for the past 4 days. They've had at least 4 different spellings of Lara Roxx. But to be fair it seems that they are getting there info straight from AIM, who still haven't got there shit together and have people listed as performing on the wrong day, etc. It makes it pretty obvious that some production companies keep very poor records. They seem to keep track of who is in a video okay but keep spotty records of the dates they actually shot and don't always know who they shot with.

One of my own suggestions, which we will probably start putting into effect here in Montreal is that a performer has to keep track of the dates and places that they have shot in the last 30 days. And of course who they worked with. It's a VERY simple thing to do and it would have made finding out exactly who has been exposed about 100 times easier if it was done before now.

Thats a great idea Mister X, but, and it is a very big BUT.......

In my experience so many of these girls are sooooo very unreliable that you are lucky if they show up to a shoot with their ID, forget about writing down who they worked with.

There have been many times that I have asked talent who they worked with last week and 90% of the time they have no idea what company they worked for or the male talent's name.

For MOST of these girls, as you know if you run an eromodel is that its all about money for them.

Sadly enough.

I think we all know that nothing is 100% effective. However doing nothing is zero percent effective. If everyone in the industry started to do it it could be a very simple thing. The talent, male and female, take a notebook with them. The producer notes the very basics, like location, date and who they worked with and signs it. They go to their next shoot and if they don't have their little book they don't work. Simple.

Sure it can never be foolproof and a performer can always lie and say they haven't worked before or whatever. But it's one more little tool in the prevention arsenal.

The MOST important thing is that producers actually start keeping track of this shit on their own. It's really not acceptable that nobody can tell you who worked with who unless they look at the tape and they don't bother to keep track of the dates.

No they haven't, either.

Article Here

Look about 8 paragraphs up from the bottom:

"Since word broke of James HIV-positive status, two women have been confirmed by AIM as HIV-positive. Dynasty, a veteran female performer, was added to the first-generation ?A? list April 15 when it was discovered she performed in a scene with James on March 25, one day after he had performed with Lara Roxx, who has since tested positive for the virus."


Let me say this- and hopefully someone from AVN might read this - THEY NEED TO GET THEIR SHIT TOGETHER. Every fucken article I've read on that site in the last few days, has been FULL of misspelled words, incomplete sentences, missing words, and sentences that flat out just didn't make sense. Do they not have a fucken spell check or editors over there? For christ's sake - if you're too lazy and/or ignorant to proofread your own shit, then maybe you shouldn't be a "w.riter". If this other girl is NOT positive, they need to get that crap down. And if she is, they need to be a little more clear about it, or just leave it off until they have all the facts and are ready to report on it.

As bad as I hate to admit this, I think Luke Ford's grammar, spelling, and cut & paste are better than AVN's shit.

I seriously hope someone else isn't infected.

2 is bad enough. 3 just adds more posibilities to the list

I dont think shes been confirmed positive. She has been added to the First Generation list, and thats it.

what are you talking about Mister X, you don't even have AIM or anything like it in Montreal. Girls keeping a diary of who and where they worked is hardly a solution to anything.

Are you the guy who sent Laura Roxx down to L.A.? Why when it was known she wanted to come home didn't anybody pay her way home instead of her having to stay there begging for work?

this whole thing is very sad

huh? i'm on that page now and reloading it and it still has that line about two women being positive.

where is the retraction people are talking about?

i don't think it's inside information they have and are holding back, looks more like a hahahahahar who just made a goof. hope so anyway.

when a name is being thrown around the words "seems to indicate" shouldn't be anywhere near the sentence.


Damn bad journalism to hell. Getting solid facts is more important than breaking the story first.



(grumbles back to journalism school corner)

when people ask my why I've become so jaded and have seemingly started to develop a hatred for this business, it's because of things like this.

AVN sucks.

just checked avn and cant find any news about it

They don't test for HIV virus. They are testing for a antivirus that will appear in the body around 3 months after you are infected with HIV. In worst case you can go around for 3 months thinking you are OK and fuck people with no protection.

really does suck

hmm did they yank it?

the new plague

I'm just a person, and I've got the new plague
I'm wondering how I got this way
I drank some whiskey, I went and got laid
Now I'm a person, just a person with aids
He's just a person with aids -- I got what?
If you treat me, like any old dude,
I'll try real hard not to go bleed on you
Cause I'm a person, and I know what to do
So stick around cause I'm gonna get screwed
I'm just a person, and you're a person like me
Am I the victim of a conspiracy?
I drank some whiskey, I did some cocaine
Now I'm a person in Pain-Pain-Pain

the shit has yet to hit the fan

Brazil is a place like any other, but the tests aren't regular like in USA. Everyone should use condoms.

Ya know, all you guys are stating , OH < IM GONNA BE CONDOM ONLY NOW.... why now, there was a case of HIV from AIM, 10 years ago I think.. so why are you going now. WHy didnt you do it as soon as you got in the buisness. Im sorry but I think half you guys will do condom only for couple months and then we will see bareback on your site. I think people will be more careful for a while.. but 5 years from now people will forget what happened this week.. shit it may even be a year when a whole new core is in the buisness.

Mutt, I'm not really sure, but it's been said she went down by herself, against the advice of her agency because she had met someone or was chatting with someone who promised her 'fame' but it turned out this person was into something else. Since another Montrealer was in the vicinity, he was referred to her to get her out of that situation - then was trying to help her get some work.

IF she went by her own free will, I don't see why her agency is being 'tagged' *not providing her trip back*. Quite frankly, if you are going somewhere, you better have money to get back - don't expect to earn your way back - especially if you have no good contacts there.

IF she had not been respecting contracts and was not fulfilling her work obligations right (showing up, showing up on time and what not) and making the agency look bad, 'on the business POV', I don't see why they would have to had pay for her trip back - in retrospect, it would have probably been her salvation *assuming she got it from Darren and it was not the other way around*

One thing is for sure - this should not be happening, it could have avoided, if not, contained to a very strict minimum. Until everyone is in the clear or confirmed, we should all just step back and wait for the final analysis.

For the record, I feel for everyone in this situation - the ones confirmed, the ones waiting, the production companies - everyone.


My personal thoughts - since I got in this business was that there should be a type of 'union' or central office looking out for the production companies.

1) they could be the central office for 2257 records
2) every performer *prior* to getting into the business must go through a battery of tests
3) they can't work with other performers in the union unless they've been properly screened
4) testing is reported to these offices
5) Any production must be reported to this office along with the performers names 'preferably' prior to production
6) The performers themselves must carry a log - get the production companies to sign the logs (and the production company has to keep a copy) to confirm where they've been and who they will be with now.
7) Testing has to be done 'regularly'
8) Vacationing and performing in other countries means that you must wait a certain amount of time prior to working again
9) Failure to do so - you lose any health benefits and 'life insurance' that this association can put into place.

So in other words, if you failed to advise of hanky panky outside of the association and have knowingly put others at risk, you will not only become liable, but will lose any financial help from a group insurance plan that will be put into place. You will not be able to work and you will - in the case of those who don't save anything - be most likely broke.

Another good point he makes :

Has it occurred to anyone else that maybe Darren James didn't get HIV in Brazil, or that maybe he actually got it from Laura Roxxx? Think about it She worked with him on 3/24 he had tested negative on 3/17. It's as likely that he got it from her as it is that he got it in Brazil.

Because AIM has made assumptions that may be incorrect theres no real way to know now.

And Why are they not demanding tests of everyone who worked with Laura Roxxx for 60 days prior to her most recent test?

Sure its easier to assume it was James...because of the circumstances but nobody KNOWS that for sure do they?

This is just another in a long list of examples why Sharon (whom I will NEVER refer to as Dr or PhD again because it is an insult to REAL Doctors and PhDs) needs to step down and turn this over to someone more qualified.

Its all a shame but when you consider the last case was 1999 and all the fucking porn companies have done since that time. The industry actually hasnt done that bad protecting itself against hiv. I also think AIM needs to have a real medical doctor running it not Sharon Micthell.

Why don't you shut your mouth if you don't know wtf you are talking about? All AIM is is a fucking clinic. The "Dr." running it isn't a medical doctor. She has a probably bogus PhD in Human Sexuality. Every major city in North America has laboratories that are equal to or better than AIM in quality. And that includes Montreal.

As far as Lara wanting to come home and being "sent" to LA... It's all bullshit. Nobody sent her to LA. She went there on her own AGAINST our advice. And got involved with some asshole she met in a chatroom or something. We asked her to come home and would have paid for it if we had to. She was "begging" for work because she wanted more work. Period. Things were arranged for her to fly home a couple of days ago and SHE decided to stay in LA.

I never said keeping a list of who you work with would solve anything, did I? I said it would make it a lot easier to find out who was exposed to who and when. Because obviously the producers keep shitty records of that. Darren James was signed to Evasive Angles and they couldn't even provide a complete list of who he worked with or when. It's fucking pitiful and reprehensible. You might notice I said MALE AND FEMALE talent should keep a record. And I also stated that is was MOST important for the producers to keep better records.

Obviously you don't bother to read anything before you rip on others.

Just to inform some of you who need it:

Chances are very slim to none that Darren contracted HIV from Lara. His test on the 17th is basically null and void. Taking an aids test the day after assfucking a prostitute without a condom is not even slightly useful. Any reputable healthcare professional will tell you that anything under 2 weeks is too soon for any reasonable chance of being correct. Plus Lara tested clean the day before she worked with Darren.

After a full 30 days an HIV test is only about 50% reliable. Only after 60 days does it become 99% reliable.

Also it has been stated that Darren was bitten by a venomous spider in Brazil before shooting. This may possibly have lowered his body's resistance and made him more likely to get hiv from the girl he did. Which would seem to make some sense because a male will only get aids from a female aproximately 1% of the time. If there are no other factors to consider.

Also there is the fact that it has been stated by the Brazillian goverment that 94% of the prostitutes in that country have hiv. And they have a law requiring the use of a condom when shooting there. Regardless of the fact that the overall infection rate in the general population is only slightly higher than that of the US. I'm sure that any study of the prostitutes in the US would show that the rate of aids among them is very much higher than the general population also. And anybody fucking an American prostitute without a condom or hiv test for a video would probably be blacklisted from the entire industry. Very deservedly so. And the fact is that 99% of the girls that these producers shoot with in Brazil are in fact prostitutes.

Lara's scene with Darren included an internal anal ejaculation. That is statistically the highest risk of contracting HIV. Internal vaginal creampies are less risky but still much higher risk than external cumshots. In all cases the one doing the fucking is at the same 1% risk of contracting HIV if he has no open sores on his genitals and there are no other factors present.

So just looking at the probabilities it is very unlikely that Darren contracted Hiv from Lara.

So now "The Age" (not heard of it) is reporting that Dynasty is positive....such confusion!

this was on www.********.com

Dynasty HIV Positive?


The Age reports it

--The Age


The Age reports today that Dynasty has tested HIV positive. This information has not been corroborated.

The Age: The multi-million-dollar US pornographic film industry was reeling from a two-month production shutdown after three X-rated actors tested positive for HIV.

The Adult Industry Medical Health Care Foundation (AIM), which monitors the health of adult film actors, announced the moratorium and testing and said actor Darren James tested positive for HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

Lara Roxx and Dynasty, two actresses who appeared in movies with James, have tested positive. The industry is now gearing up to examine more than 45 other actors.

The production halt follows months of warnings from medical organisations that opposed films in which actors do not use condoms. Only 17 per cent of actors wear condoms, according to the AIM.

The AIM frequently tests adult film stars for HIV, and the last actor to test positive was Tony Montana in 1999.

While X-rated production giant Vivid and other producers cancelled filming, some in the industry worried about the moratorium's financial consequences.

"I'm against any stop in production," said Tyler Cash, a producer with Sinamotion Pictures. "It will put a lot of people out of business. You'll have people who will start losing their apartments. It's just not fair."

Ric Williams, general manager of production company Private USA, said: "At this time Private has decided to halt productions, as our chief concern is the health and safety of our talent," according to the website Adult Industry News.

"Our best wishes, hopes and prayers are with those who might be affected by the current climate," he added.

Several porn production companies are based north of Los Angeles in the San Fernando Valley.

Jack Kyser, chief economist of the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corporation, said the adult film industry plays an important role in the local economy.

Tim Connelly, editor of porn industry magazine AVN News, said actors will suffer more from the shutdown than production companies.

"There are companies who are canceling movies already in production," Connelly said. "The industry generates billions of dollars a year, but the consequences for manufacturers and producers will be minimal. It will affect the performers."

Jenna Jameson, dubbed by Rolling Stone magazine the most famous porn star in the country, said the shutdown makes sense.

"The fact is that the adult industry as a whole has been remarkably free of (sexually transmitted diseases) and HIV, considering that sex is what we do for a living. We must do even more to prevent it from taking root among performers," she said.

there we go

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...html?from=top5

this is spreading pretty fast

Joe,

You know that's not the case with me... I did condom from day 1 and never waivered. There is no way I was going to have sex with porn actresses without a condom. And for that matter, I cannot believe that a porn actress would let a guy fuck her without a condom.

Since day 1: condoms.

and now Darren James appears to be missing

AVN Story

94%? Our government is crazy then. This might be the actual number for the crack whores, but not for the "escorts".

yeah, and their thinkin the czech republic

you know, i have to say, if this happened to me, first thing I would do is head to my family and say hi and explain everything...then go to the doctor and arrange for meds...then hit the fucking road on a motorcycle for the rest of my life

another porn hot-spot...

i have a question here:

"What I would say is that I've heard those comments that Brazil is a high-risk place for HIV and so I went on the Internet and did some research and I found out there's more cases of HIV in the U.S. than in Brazil so if Brazil is high risk, the U.S. is a higher risk," Anthony said."

this was from his best friend...

NOW, of course brazil has fewer cases, isn't it smaller? i would imagine the percentage might be a little higher when measuring the populations

no one said you had to be smart to fuck on camera.