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"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
Thomas Paine 1794 - The Age Of Reason
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still only the Catholic church you're talking about... I think religion doesn't define to Roman Catholic onlyOriginally posted by Wilber
See this is the whole point here, you have no idea what you support.
You babble on about righteousness and in the meantime you have no
idea what your leaders do and support.- War involvement - Vatican openly supports Palestine and condemns Israel
- Shelters war criminals - money, gold, land, factories, and other loot
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This is "your" lifetime. Now shuddap and toss some more into the collection
plate so they can pay for the bodyguards and limos they drive the Ustashe
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Originally posted by Thong Sniper
And since God is all knowing...he knew I'd feel this way long before my creation.
besides, how can I have free will, if God knows everything? that denotes destiny and fate...not free will.
lame attempt at "discussing"
you said it yourself> FREE WILL!!!
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Your picking peanuts out of shit.Originally posted by TGPslut
still only the Catholic church you're talking about... I think religion doesn't define to Roman Catholic only
The onus is on you...you name an uncorrupted religion.Sig NOT for saleComment
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Originally posted by Wilber
See this is the whole point here, you have no idea what you support.
You babble on about righteousness and in the meantime you have no
idea what your leaders do and support.- War involvement - Vatican openly supports Palestine and condemns Israel
- Shelters war criminals - money, gold, land, factories, and other loot
stolen by the Ustashe and Nazis.
This is "your" lifetime. Now shuddap and toss some more into the collection
plate so they can pay for the bodyguards and limos they drive the Ustashe
and Nazis around in.
I don't know if they are supporting palestine or not i'm not following it closely. And if they are, they are not saying go to war and kill.
i don't go to church and i don't throw $ into the collection plate
even if i did i wouldn't let an ignorant idiot like you tell me otherwise...
maybe you have me mistaken for someone who gives a shit.
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Couldn't agree more. A good person is a good person at heart; they dont need the fear of an all-powerful being to be kind to other human beings.Originally posted by KRL
...Give me a fucking break with this religion does good things baloney. You'd still have charitable people without religion behind it. Nothing would change there so your argument has no merit....
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Quite an oxymoron, there. Of course; I doubt anyone can name ANY organization that big that hasn't been corrupted in some way - not just religions. Its a statistical improbability.Originally posted by Wilber
Your picking peanuts out of shit.
The onus is on you...you name an uncorrupted religion.Comment
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Religion is a scam and the followers of any religion are of the most ignorant poeple on the planet. Religion was used to explain things that were not understood before reasoning and logical thought were adopted. The ancient Greeks, Romans, and the Egyptians all had multiple gods and they were around way before Christ, so maybe we should be looking to Zeus for guidance.
I would like somone to post irrefutable proof of a almighty being that is in control of everything. Somehow I don't think that will happen.Comment
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hmmm... any clue why they call it BELIEVE???Originally posted by rip raster
Religion is a scam and the followers of any religion are of the most ignorant poeple on the planet. Religion was used to explain things that were not understood before reasoning and logical thought were adopted. The ancient Greeks, Romans, and the Egyptians all had multiple gods and they were around way before Christ, so maybe we should be looking to Zeus for guidance.
I would like somone to post irrefutable proof of a almighty being that is in control of everything. Somehow I don't think that will happen.
with 100% proof it would be KNOWING!
You show me 100% fool-proof evolution, and don't throw me some university link for evolution, that's no proof.Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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The onus??? what's that??? seriously what does it mean?Originally posted by Wilber
Your picking peanuts out of shit.
The onus is on you...you name an uncorrupted religion.
about uncorrupted religions... it depends on how you look at it... you can divide many religions while they mostly point to the same cause... but all I can say is that Christianity does not support any form of war/violence.
If there's any corruptcy that's becoz it is the CHOICE and WILL of the humans in question... and naming yourself "Christian/Catholic/Muslim" or whatever else does not make you one!Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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wtf is that? Children and automatons regurgitate thatOriginally posted by AWW - Kevin
come on man you're talking a long time ago
...when was the last time the catholic church said go
to war.. wasn't in my lifetime
tired old crap...no substance or reality in that babbling.
How hard is it for you to see past your own stupidity. Your
the one throwing comments into a subject you obviously
don't know one iota about.
Since when does a war participant have to be the one
at the front of the troops, with sword in hand, yelling
"CHARGE!!"
That isn't even close to the correct wording/rules thebasis of religion are good, love your neighbour, don't kill etc
bible lays out...did you ever even read the fucking thing.
Your attempting to quote the "commandments"...say it
with me "c o m m a n d m e n t s". What's the key word
in there?...."command". That in itself is a soldiers directive.
It's "Thou shalt not kill, Love thy..." oh fuck it, your as dumb
as a sack of dead cats...the point is nobody follows rules
ever. Go ask the jews and the palestinians...they both follow
the bible "religiously" and what's going on over there since
before you were even born. Lot's of killing, lots of neighbor
hating...they both consider themselves the "chosen people"
of god and the bible.
Here is where you show your the biggest babbling gonad-grabber.I don't know if they are supporting palestine or not
i'm not following it closely
You don't follow it but you consider yourself knowledgeable to
comment on it. Why are you even talking in this thread...better
yet why am I even talking to a child's mind in the first place.
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Amen to that brother.Originally posted by Plan9
Couldn't agree more. A good person is a good person at heart;
they dont need the fear of an all-powerful being to be kind to other
human beings.
The Masons. Organized, be around since the dawn of intelligence and money,Quite an oxymoron, there. Of course; I doubt anyone can name ANY
organization that big that hasn't been corrupted in some way - not just
religions. Its a statistical improbability.
take care of their own in such a way no other organization has ever come close
to their abilities. The Vatican only has a text statement on our money...the
Mason's have their logo on it.Sig NOT for saleComment
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The almighty dollar rules mankind with an iron fist.Originally posted by rip raster
I would like somone to post irrefutable proof of a almighty being
that is in control of everything. Somehow I don't think that will happen.Sig NOT for saleComment
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This ain't English lessons here and I ain't steppin' down my intellectOriginally posted by TGPslut
The onus??? what's that??? seriously what does it mean?
so a zoo monkey like you can understand me.
Get off the boards and go read some books. That's more repetitive ramblingbut all I can say is that Christianity does not support any form of war/violence
that has already been proven wrong in this very thread.Sig NOT for saleComment
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Originally posted by Wilber
Here is where you show your the biggest babbling gonad-grabber.
You don't follow it but you consider yourself knowledgeable to
comment on it. Why are you even talking in this thread....blah blah blah ...
blah ..
blah ..
did i say i consider myself knowledgeable? show me where??
only thing you're good at is puting words in other peoples mouth
and you're not even good at that.
jeez seems they let anyone post here
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fuck religions and all that bullshit.
my religion is moneyComment
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My religious neighbor was in jail for 3 months for a 6 month term for credit card fraud and fraud relating to a Real Estate Broker business.
Here's what she does besides the above.
1. screams and yells loud outside in front of my girls that I am a whore and a slut
2. trys to poison my horses with hay with mold on it
3. feed my horse for 4 years without my persmission
4. let her dog kill my chickens on my property and chase my horses
5. says shit like the Fbi is watching me etc etc.. ( SHe does not know what I do )
6. Says shit to the other neighbors about me
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This is not over simplified, this is accurate. Religoin was important back in the day, it gave people a reason to keep living their shitty lives (to a lesser extent today) but now it is most definatly irrevelant.Originally posted by hershie
Here's my theory (and an over simplified generalization):
Religious people are weak and need to hand off all personal responsibility and decisions on a moral code to live by to a religion so they don't have to deal with these most important things they should have been pondering and deciding for themselves.
After reading Dostoyevsky's THe Grand Inquisitor, I realised people are indeed sheep and are afraid to be without crutches and warm and fuzzy certanties like religion provides them rather than taking it on themselves to figure it all out.
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your ignorance is pissing me off now, you are living in a fucking fantasy...you know what if you want to believe in fuckin fairy tales go right ahead, I pointed out a site with some clearly hahahahahahahahaed facts on it about evolution. It's your choice to ignor the facts, no skin off my fucking back, it's not my job to teach your sorry ass the facts about the corruption of religion, go ahead believe whatever you'd like....and your still beating around the bush about my question, can you proove to me that there is a god?? it's a simple yes or no answerOriginally posted by TGPslut
hmmm... any clue why they call it BELIEVE???
with 100% proof it would be KNOWING!
You show me 100% fool-proof evolution, and don't throw me some university link for evolution, that's no proof.
To BELIEVE is to accept somthing as true or real, and right now the evidence on a almighty god is a little thin don't you think???Comment
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Wow sweet arguements, well mister genius did you ever consider the fact that not everyone on this board is native english?Originally posted by Wilber
Originally posted by TGPslut
The onus??? what's that??? seriously what does it mean?
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This ain't English lessons here and I ain't steppin' down my intellect
so a zoo monkey like you can understand me.
And this zoo monkey studies law at the best university of the Netherlands so I guess yeh... I'm very dumb
I've read more books than you will ever do in your sorry life... you do not know wtf you're talking about and I'm not gonna discuss this with someone that does not take it seriously.
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but all I can say is that Christianity does not support any form of war/violence
Get off the boards and go read some books. That's more repetitive rambling
that has already been proven wrong in this very thread.
I'm always open to discussions IF you have an open mind and actually LISTEN to what others say and don't just RAMBLE away.
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Originally posted by rip raster
your ignorance is pissing me off now, you are living in a fucking fantasy...you know what if you want to believe in fuckin fairy tales go right ahead, I pointed out a site with some clearly hahahahahahahahaed facts on it about evolution. It's your choice to ignor the facts, no skin off my fucking back, it's not my job to teach your sorry ass the facts about the corruption of religion, go ahead believe whatever you'd like....and your still beating around the bush about my question, can you proove to me that there is a god?? it's a simple yes or no answer
To BELIEVE is to accept somthing as true or real, and right now the evidence on a almighty god is a little thin don't you think??? facts and theories are 2 different things, but as you have proven to me you're not open to discussion your sole purpose is to speak YOUR opinion and ignore everything else... bye bye to you too.
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I've always found that if you do indeed, have right on your side, there's no need to argue or get angry.. periodComment
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Well said. I do like one of the ideas Martin Luder/Luther(1483) had.. that it's possible for the individual to have a direct link with god without going through the church. Weird how there ended up being a lutheren church( dont know much about it)Originally posted by Fletch XXX
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
Thomas Paine 1794 - The Age Of Reason
Churches would be better if they were just community groups of people getting together to try and make things better on a local level without bringing god and religious bullshit doctrines into it.Last edited by slackologist; 04-18-2004, 02:57 AM.Comment
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Fact = EVOLUTIONOriginally posted by TGPslut
facts and theories are 2 different things, but as you have proven to me you're not open to discussion your sole purpose is to speak YOUR opinion and ignore everything else... bye bye to you too.
Theory = RELIGION
I think you are the one not open to discussion, I am sorry that some of my opinions happen to be reality
Why don't you say hi to god for me when you're in church on Sunday...oh and while your at it let him/her know how your porn site is doing, maybe god will throw a miracle or two your way, double or triple your salesComment
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I'm not in church on sunday... bad boy ain't I?Originally posted by rip raster
Fact = EVOLUTION
Theory = RELIGION
I think you are the one not open to discussion, I am sorry that some of my opinions happen to be reality
Why don't you say hi to god for me when you're in church on Sunday...oh and while your at it let him/her know how your porn site is doing, maybe god will throw a miracle or two your way, double or triple your sales
He knows I do porn... he knows everything remember?
Please if you think evolution is the truth have fun with it... it is your choice and it was never my intention convince you otherwise I just wanted to correct the false facts that are thrown around here so much.
If you do not mind I'm putting an end to this discussion... we will never reach any form of agreement and further discussing is useless coz I think you are not open and you think I am not open to it.
You will find out soon enough who was right... hope it will not be too late for ya.
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Originally posted by BRISK
That is fucking brilliant. I fully lost it over that.Comment
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Kind of like Santa Clause, another fictitious characterOriginally posted by TGPslut
I'm not in church on sunday... bad boy ain't I?
He knows I do porn... he knows everything remember?
Peace!
There is no evidence at all that there is a god just some bullshit that some uneducated people wrote 2000 years ago. I hope that when you realize that you have put your faith in someone elses mythological fantasy that you will not be too dissappointedOriginally posted by TGPslut
You will find out soon enough who was right... hope it will not be too late for ya.
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