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  • Brujah
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    • Jan 2001
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    #1

    it's time to put an end to the religion illusion

    it served it's purpose but now it's time to put an end to it. there's no such thing.
  • PiksalDesign
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    • Mar 2003
    • 1632

    #2
    Originally posted by Brujah
    it served it's purpose but now it's time to put an end to it. there's no such thing.
    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whore
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    • BRISK
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      • Feb 2003
      • 12240

      #3
      I guess I should stop sacrificing virgins then
      I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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      • Brujah
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        • Jan 2001
        • 22157

        #4
        Originally posted by PiksalDesign


        http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=whore
        whore of babylon ?
        babble on ?

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        • Brujah
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          • Jan 2001
          • 22157

          #5
          Originally posted by BRISK
          I guess I should stop sacrificing virgins then
          heathen

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          • BRISK
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            • Feb 2003
            • 12240

            #6
            I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
            I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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            • Brujah
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              • Jan 2001
              • 22157

              #7

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              • Brat
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                • Jan 2003
                • 1545

                #8
                Originally posted by BRISK

                hahah

                forget talking to them. we dont even answer the door. we peek out the hahahahahaha and hide until they go away.

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                • Gheenz
                  Here's Your Sign
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2410

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Brujah
                  Yikes. Christ was scary lookin'!
                  Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

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                  • hershie
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                    • Jun 2002
                    • 4642

                    #10
                    Too much blood has been spilled in the name of God over the ages that I am amazed that people buy into the zealots out there. From suicide bombers believing they will get martyrdom to George Bush saying God's gift to people was democracy and its the US right to spread it to other countries, we have learned no lessons from our past about how poisionous religion is.

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                    • KRL
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 31429

                      #11
                      Religion was created in a time when people still thought the earth was flat. That pretty much sums up the logical reasoning of the time period and why so many people that have half a brain look at religion and scratch their head realizing its a bunch of bs to in actuality control masses of people with fear and prophecy.

                      My mother is religious and it drives me batty. One time when she was visiting I went with her to mass since I hadn't been for so many years and I couldn't control myself and just started laughing when the priest started the usual gospel part talking about some events from 2000 years ago with the corinthians and the zacharians or whatever the fuck it was.

                      I had to walk out of the service and waited outside. My mother got upset, but I jammed her and said you tell me what one thing means that he talked about with all this nonsense from 2000 years ago and she couldn't.

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                      • Gheenz
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                        • Oct 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by hershie
                        Too much blood has been spilled in the name of God over the ages that I am amazed that people buy into the zealots out there. From suicide bombers believing they will get martyrdom to George Bush saying God's gift to people was democracy and its the US right to spread it to other countries, we have learned no lessons from our past about how poisionous religion is.
                        100% right! I'm sure religion will outlive us all though (aside from being the demise and end of us all.)
                        Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

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                        • hershie
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                          • Jun 2002
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                          #13
                          Here's my theory (and an over simplified generalization):

                          Religious people are weak and need to hand off all personal responsibility and decisions on a moral code to live by to a religion so they don't have to deal with these most important things they should have been pondering and deciding for themselves.

                          After reading Dostoyevsky's THe Grand Inquisitor, I realised people are indeed sheep and are afraid to be without crutches and warm and fuzzy certanties like religion provides them rather than taking it on themselves to figure it all out.

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                          • hershie
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                            • Jun 2002
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                            #14
                            Country music is like a religious cult:

                            You have to wear the cult dress code in their club.

                            You have to learn the ritual dance.

                            Its another version of religion that attracts weak people that need the reassurance a cult gives them where all individual decisions have been made for them and they don't have to take individual reponsibility. You don't just enjoy the music and make up your attire and dance step, you learn the cult way so you can belong.

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                            • Brujah
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                              • Jan 2001
                              • 22157

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hershie
                              Country music is like a religious cult:

                              You have to wear the cult dress code in their club.

                              You have to learn the ritual dance.

                              Its another version of religion that attracts weak people that need the reassurance a cult gives them where all individual decisions have been made for them and they don't have to take individual reponsibility. You don't just enjoy the music and make up your attire and dance step, you learn the cult way so you can belong.
                              country music is goth for hillbillies

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                              • jayeff
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                                • May 2001
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by hershie
                                Its another version of religion that attracts weak people that need the reassurance a cult gives them where all individual decisions have been made for them and they don't have to take individual reponsibility.
                                You just described most of the human race. From school to the grave, the vast majority of us are terrified of being individual, different, not belonging to some group or other.

                                And if you think about it, since we are designed to be communal creatures, how could our genes allow us to be any other way? It would be a contradiction in terms.

                                Beyond providing a group to which people can belong, religion also provides some with a focal point for the wish to believe that this life is not all there is. It has also been, still is, a useful tool for those in search of wealth and power.

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                                • sixxxth_sense
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 2430

                                  #17
                                  Religion's become a fucking BUSINESS now. Nothing MORE!!! I can't belive people still belive in this shit... a fucking loozers, can't belive in themselfs... so sad!

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                                  • Ironhorse
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                                    #18
                                    Oh yay, thanks for clearing that up.
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                                    • JFK
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                                      • Jan 2002
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by KRL
                                      Religion was created in a time when people still thought the earth was flat. That pretty much sums up the logical reasoning of the time period and why so many people that have half a brain look at religion and scratch their head realizing its a bunch of bs to in actuality control masses of people with fear and prophecy.

                                      My mother is religious and it drives me batty. One time when she was visiting I went with her to mass since I hadn't been for so many years and I couldn't control myself and just started laughing when the priest started the usual gospel part talking about some events from 2000 years ago with the corinthians and the zacharians or whatever the fuck it was.

                                      I had to walk out of the service and waited outside. My mother got upset, but I jammed her and said you tell me what one thing means that he talked about with all this nonsense from 2000 years ago and she couldn't.


                                      "the corinthians and the zacharians"


                                      They were a soccer team I think

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                                      • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                        #20
                                        Religeon has been a business from the beginning.

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                                        • JFK
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                          Religeon has been a business from the beginning.
                                          The End .........Amen

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                                          • sixxxth_sense
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 2430

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JFK


                                            The End .........Amen
                                            couple people i agree with!



                                            but i don't agree with ur "Amen" sayin!

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                                            • Wilber
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                                              • May 2001
                                              • 1295

                                              #23
                                              What's not to believe?
                                              • Mary was a virgin
                                              • Jesus raised the dead and cured the blind
                                              • Oceans part
                                              • Rivers turn to blood
                                              • If it rains for 40 days the Earth floods


                                              Besides, religion attracts nice honest ppl...

                                              Jim Swaggart

                                              Jim Tammy Baker

                                              Osama Mothefucker

                                              David Koresh

                                              Jim Jones
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                                              • Odin88
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                                                • Jul 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Bunch of idiots on GFY. 'Religion attracts nice people' - well actually in many instances it does. If you actually knew the amount of people Christian charities help daily across the world (and even in your own nation - i.e. the homeless) you might actually realise. But I guess, considering 90% of you never get out of the house, you live in your own delusional world which is ruled by FOX or BBC (depending on which way you swing). You see a child abuse case in the Catholic Church (an obvious problem no doubt) and you believe all Catholics are possessed with this urge to fuck children.

                                                The truth of the matter is that the majority of the world swings to one religious orientation or another, and while religion has been used in the name of bad things, the vast majority of these people are good, honorable people. They help the starving in developing nations, they help the starving in your own, and they do it not for money but for satisfaction of helping another human being. Just because you idealise money and things only, does not give you a reason to bash those that idealise a God.

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                                                • Wilber
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                                                  • May 2001
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Odin88
                                                  does not give you a reason to bash those that idealise a God
                                                  Your all liars and deceivers as well.

                                                  How many of your church buddies do you tell you have 1885 posts at
                                                  an adult webmaster board.
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                                                  • Odin88
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                                                    • Jul 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Wilber

                                                    Your all liars and deceivers as well.

                                                    How many of your church buddies do you tell you have 1885 posts at
                                                    an adult webmaster board.
                                                    I don't attend Church dickhead, nor am I religious (other than believing that there may well be a God). However, I know plenty of religious people and organisations that do great work. Idiots like you are just too stupid to realise it.
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                                                    • BRISK
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                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                      • 12240

                                                      #27
                                                      Humans aren't rational.
                                                      I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                      I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                      • Wilber
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                                                        • May 2001
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                                                        #28
                                                        So we are the one who live in a "delusional world which is
                                                        ruled by FOX or BBC" and you don't attend church but you
                                                        know where and who donates to charities...do you see the
                                                        transparency you portray in yourself.

                                                        On a scale of one to ten - fuck off.
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                                                        • Odin88
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Wilber
                                                          So we are the one who live in a "delusional world which is
                                                          ruled by FOX or BBC" and you don't attend church but you
                                                          know where and who donates to charities...do you see the
                                                          transparency you portray in yourself.

                                                          On a scale of one to ten - fuck off.
                                                          You live in a delusional world ruled by mass media. American's (and many other Western nations mind you) are filled with idiots who jump on any and every trend that pops up in the mass media. If you actually took the time to read some various sources and learn a bit more about the world you live in (that is other than learning about terrorists and child abusers) you would actually realise how idiotic your intial post was.

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                                                          • TurboTrucker
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                                                            • Jan 2003
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                                                            #30
                                                            Unfortunately, we haven't evolved that far yet. Most people still need religion.

                                                            Originally posted by Brujah
                                                            it served it's purpose but now it's time to put an end to it. there's no such thing.

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                                                            • Wilber
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                                                              • May 2001
                                                              • 1295

                                                              #31
                                                              Well if we live a delusional world and we're the most powerful nation
                                                              on the Earth, where does that put you and the rest of the kangaroos.
                                                              Just keep sending us rack of lamb...we like it.
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                                                              • BRISK
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                                                                • Feb 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                Humans are easily influenced, highly impressionable, and have a strong desire to believe that our existence in this universe has a purpose. Given these qualities, it's understandable why religions are as popular as they are.
                                                                I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do,
                                                                I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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                                                                • Wilber
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Organized religion...it's just another way for an elite group of people to control others.
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                                                                  • Odin88
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Wilber
                                                                    Well if we live a delusional world and we're the most powerful nation
                                                                    on the Earth, where does that put you and the rest of the kangaroos.
                                                                    Just keep sending us rack of lamb...we like it.
                                                                    Who said anything about America not being a powerful nation? Hell, I like most Americans but I was stating an obvious fact. Just look at this board when Britney Spears hits the news because she likes to touch herself. A bunch of:

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                                                                    • Wilber
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                                                                      • May 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Odin88
                                                                      I like most Americans but I was stating an obvious fact.
                                                                      Just look at this board when Britney Spears hits the news
                                                                      because she likes to touch herself
                                                                      Because in the US we like girls, especially when the touch themselves.
                                                                      Putting bars on the front of our Holdens and bumping roos isn't
                                                                      exactly big with us.

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                                                                      • webmaster x
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Religion is important to a lot of people. You may not understant it fully, but it has a purpose. A good purpose - that is.
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                                                                        • AWW - Kevin
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Odin88
                                                                          Bunch of idiots on GFY. 'Religion attracts nice people' - well actually in many instances it does. If you actually knew the amount of people Christian charities help daily across the world (and even in your own nation - i.e. the homeless) you might actually realise. But I guess, considering 90% of you never get out of the house, you live in your own delusional world which is ruled by FOX or BBC (depending on which way you swing). You see a child abuse case in the Catholic Church (an obvious problem no doubt) and you believe all Catholics are possessed with this urge to fuck children.

                                                                          The truth of the matter is that the majority of the world swings to one religious orientation or another, and while religion has been used in the name of bad things, the vast majority of these people are good, honorable people. They help the starving in developing nations, they help the starving in your own, and they do it not for money but for satisfaction of helping another human being. Just because you idealise money and things only, does not give you a reason to bash those that idealise a God.
                                                                          very true


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                                                                          • Head
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by BRISK
                                                                            I guess I should stop sacrificing virgins then

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                                                                            • KRL
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                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                              • 31429

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Odin88
                                                                              Bunch of idiots on GFY. 'Religion attracts nice people' - well actually in many instances it does. If you actually knew the amount of people Christian charities help daily across the world (and even in your own nation - i.e. the homeless) you might actually realise. But I guess, considering 90% of you never get out of the house, you live in your own delusional world which is ruled by FOX or BBC (depending on which way you swing). You see a child abuse case in the Catholic Church (an obvious problem no doubt) and you believe all Catholics are possessed with this urge to fuck children.

                                                                              The truth of the matter is that the majority of the world swings to one religious orientation or another, and while religion has been used in the name of bad things, the vast majority of these people are good, honorable people. They help the starving in developing nations, they help the starving in your own, and they do it not for money but for satisfaction of helping another human being. Just because you idealise money and things only, does not give you a reason to bash those that idealise a God.

                                                                              Relgion has been the root cause of more destruction, violence, and death than any other element in the history of mankind.

                                                                              Give me a fucking break with this religion does good things baloney. You'd still have charitable people without religion behind it. Nothing would change there so your argument has no merit.

                                                                              The Vatican is one of the most corrupt institutions in the world. They've been sucking money out of poor 3rd world catholics for 2000 years. Go look at the wealth they've amassed over there sometimes.
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                                                                              • CamChicks
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Religion impeds Science, and for that all the religionists need to be sent off somewhere far away to live like in the dark ages .. as they still would be if smarter people didn't fight and sacrifice for progress.

                                                                                Despite the hundreds of millions who have been murdered in the name of religion, that tradgedy does not compare to the inconceivable cost of slowing our intellectual and technological evolution.

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                                                                                • slackologist
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  so long as there is misery in the world, there will be religion of some sort.

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                                                                                  • slackologist
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    This definition is a large umbrella.

                                                                                    4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

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                                                                                    • fusionx
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Brujah
                                                                                      Christ is actually Hulk Hogan?!?

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                                                                                      • LeeNoga
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by hershie
                                                                                        Here's my theory (and an over simplified generalization):

                                                                                        Religious people are weak and need to hand off all personal responsibility and decisions on a moral code to live by to a religion so they don't have to deal with these most important things they should have been pondering and deciding for themselves.
                                                                                        Yup, over generalizing for the main religions, perhaps one should consider the smaller independent ones, who differ greatly in the regimentation and passing off of responsibilities.

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                                                                                        • TGPslut
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by KRL



                                                                                          Relgion has been the root cause of more destruction, violence, and death than any other element in the history of mankind.

                                                                                          Give me a fucking break with this religion does good things baloney. You'd still have charitable people without religion behind it. Nothing would change there so your argument has no merit.

                                                                                          The Vatican is one of the most corrupt institutions in the world. They've been sucking money out of poor 3rd world catholics for 2000 years. Go look at the wealth they've amassed over there sometimes.
                                                                                          So coz the Vatican is corrupt all religion is evil???
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                                                                                          • TGPslut
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            you're right, we have to put an end to religion...

                                                                                            Christianity is a way of life! Not a religion

                                                                                            and stop generalizing all beliefs!

                                                                                            If you don't want to have anything to do with it leave it alone... I don't attack you coz you do not believe so why should you attack anyone that DOES believe?

                                                                                            In fact believers are not "weak" people... we are people who dare to admit we have no control over anything in life... we dare to admit we cannot decide what will happen and what will not!

                                                                                            Don't give me that shit "not taking the consequences" "giving everything out of hand" coz I do take responsibility for all my actions... I do not think I can pull off any shit without consequences!

                                                                                            If you do not believe that is your choice, starting this discussion over and over is not going to get you anywhere coz everyone has his/her own opinion which is almost impossible to change.

                                                                                            If you ARE willing to discuss this with an open mind (as I always am) you can contact me whenever you want.

                                                                                            So... I'm done... carry on
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                                                                                            • benc
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              I see some mixed signals. On one hand people say it hurts scientific discovery, and on the other hand these are the same people that would rather sink money into deadbeats, and slash the nasa and military budget.


                                                                                              I don't believe in religion, and think it is a crock to control people.

                                                                                              But on the other hand the opposite extreme probably isn't good either. People that give into decadence and vices, and don't do an ounce of good with their life.
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                                                                                              • AWW - Kevin
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by KRL



                                                                                                Relgion has been the root cause of more destruction, violence, and death than any other element in the history of mankind.

                                                                                                Give me a fucking break with this religion does good things baloney. You'd still have charitable people without religion behind it. Nothing would change there so your argument has no merit.

                                                                                                The Vatican is one of the most corrupt institutions in the world. They've been sucking money out of poor 3rd world catholics for 2000 years. Go look at the wealth they've amassed over there sometimes.
                                                                                                come on man you're talking a long time ago, when was the last time the catholic church said go to war.. wasn't in my lifetime.
                                                                                                they also didn't want the iraq war!

                                                                                                it's a free world believe what you may....
                                                                                                the basis of religion are good, love your neighbour, don't kill etc...


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                                                                                                • Wilber
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by AWW - Kevin
                                                                                                  come on man you're talking a long time ago, when was the
                                                                                                  last time the catholic church said go to war.. wasn't in my lifetime.
                                                                                                  See this is the whole point here, you have no idea what you support.
                                                                                                  You babble on about righteousness and in the meantime you have no
                                                                                                  idea what your leaders do and support.
                                                                                                  • War involvement - Vatican openly supports Palestine and condemns Israel
                                                                                                  • Shelters war criminals - money, gold, land, factories, and other loot
                                                                                                    stolen by the Ustashe and Nazis.

                                                                                                  This is "your" lifetime. Now shuddap and toss some more into the collection
                                                                                                  plate so they can pay for the bodyguards and limos they drive the Ustashe
                                                                                                  and Nazis around in.
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                                                                                                  • Thong Sniper
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    every country on the planet but the US condems israel.

                                                                                                    anyway. i don't buy into religion. I'm a decent person. I genuinly care about my friends. I love my girlfriend and I try and live the best and happiest life I can. If I go to "hell", so be it, I don't want to base my existence on worshipping someone or something and I sure as fuck don't want to base my eternity on that either.

                                                                                                    And since God is all knowing...he knew I'd feel this way long before my creation.


                                                                                                    besides, how can I have free will, if God knows everything? that denotes destiny and fate...not free will.
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