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  • StickyGreen
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    • Oct 2003
    • 13076

    #1

    Taxes......a MUST READ...

    if you are an American and you pay taxes...you should read this...if you can even understand it that is...


    Self-sacrifice is not synonymous with moral duty nor does it justify the accommodation of evil. The frivolous issue put forth and debated is whether or not the income tax is mandatory by law. No, it is not mandatory by law, but it is most definitely mandatory by force - police force. In the real world it does not matter what law requires. It matter what is required by force.

    Our lives are dominated and consumed by the process and payment of taxes. It would be accurate to say that our existence is indexed to the tax system in America. Yet not one person in ten million has the monetary understanding that income taxes have absolutely nothing to do with the economic or financial support of the federal government.

    The federal government does not need your income taxes to pay its bills. The income tax system (withholding) was inaugurated under the "crisis" of World War II in its present form. Before that time, not more than 1% of the American people paid any so-called tax on income. What did the government do for money all those years before World War II?

    Modern money is numbers and abstraction. The government/central bank creates those numbers and "pay" the numbers, called dollars, for what it needs. The monetary system of the United States is regulated by the IRS income tax system. The IRS income tax system implies in the public mind that the IRS is collecting taxes to support the federal government and pay its expenses. This is not true but it serves as a disguise to hide the fraud.

    What then is the IRS collecting? When you send your check to the IRS, the IRS then subtracts the numbers on your check from your checking account. In this action, the IRS is a regulator of your consumption. Your consumption of goods and services is reduced by the exact numbers. The fiat monetary system would not work without the regulation of your consumption. This essential function of the IRS is the reason that it is a system backed by police power.

    Does the IRS spend your numbers (dollars) or send them to Washington as taxes? No, they disappear in the reverse manner that they were created. The more numbers that disappear, the more the government can create without causing price inflation.

    When the IRS reduces your numbers, your consumption is effectively transferred to government consumption. The most revealing statement ever printed which describes the IRS system and reveals the fraud is that found in the book published in 1919 entitled "Economic Consequences of the Peace" by John Maynard Keynes. Lord Keynes is the darling of modern bankers, politicians and pseudo economists. Quote: "If government should refrain from regulation, (taxation) the worthlessness of the money becomes apparent and the fraud upon the people can be concealed no longer."

    This statement clearly says that the income tax system covers the fraud that government prints its own money. THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED YOUR NUMBERS (DOLLARS). IT CREATES ITS OWN IN UNLIMITED AMOUNTS. BUT THE PEOPLE MUST BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE PAYING TAXES ACCORDING TO "THEIR FAIR SHARE."

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  • SuckOnThis
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    • Oct 2003
    • 6844

    #2
    Tell it to the judge and see how far you get.

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    • BRISK
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      • Feb 2003
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      #3
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      • StickyGreen
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        • Oct 2003
        • 13076

        #4
        /\ it's not for the judge...it's for the people so they can at least understand the concept...
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        • demented
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          • Dec 2002
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          #5
          Makes sense.. if you think about it.

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          • Snake Doctor
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            • Mar 2001
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            #6
            Originally posted by BRISK
            Agreed
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            • Roger
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              • Jul 2003
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              #7
              government is like a big mafia organisation.

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              • Rictor
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                • Jan 2001
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                #8
                I support the One Tax sales tax.

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                • TheDoc
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                  • Jul 2001
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                  #9
                  Could someone post the LAW that states you have to pay income tax?


                  hmmmm
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                  • StickyGreen
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 13076

                    #10
                    People who are saying it makes sense must be educated and actually know something about economics...those who are saying conspiracy shit or whatever must be plain ignorant...the information is right there...read it...
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                    • StickyGreen
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 13076

                      #11
                      TheDoc...

                      you must have missed line 3...

                      No, it is not mandatory by law, but it is most definitely mandatory by force - police force.
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                      • Dusen
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                        #12
                        The government cannot just print unlimited amounts of money. This is how you make your dollar worthless.
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                        • 69pornlinks
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                          Tell it to the judge and see how far you get.
                          did you hear about that chick that was a flight attendant, she beat a federal case concerning her taxes i'll try to find the link when i get around to it...it wasn/t reported on fox/ccn for reasons people would say hey i'm expemt also
                          It IS what it IS

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                          • genomega
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                            #14
                            The irs calls it voluntary.


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                            • Roger
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                              • Jul 2003
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                              #15
                              I know that in Canada it's against the law to pay federal taxes yet everyone pays

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                              • Roger
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by genomega
                                The irs calls it voluntary.
                                The trick is to stop thinking of it as your money

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                                • JDog
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                                  • Feb 2003
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 69pornlinks


                                  did you hear about that chick that was a flight attendant, she beat a federal case concerning her taxes i'll try to find the link when i get around to it...it wasn/t reported on fox/ccn for reasons people would say hey i'm expemt also
                                  YEa find that link, I'd like to see it!

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                                  • NetRodent
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                                    #18
                                    Every good conspiracy theory has a kernel of truth.
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                                    • pornguy
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                                      • Mar 2003
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                                      #19
                                      The funny thing is that taxes are against the constitution.

                                      That is why they made the ammendment. so that they could collect them
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                                      • StickyGreen
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                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 13076

                                        #20
                                        i just think its funny cuz the average person thinks they pay taxes so the government can support itself...when they're actually just reducing and regulating your numbers and power to consume so they can continue to do their thing...
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                                        • Snake Doctor
                                          I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                          • Mar 2001
                                          • 13449

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by pornguy
                                          The funny thing is that taxes are against the constitution.

                                          That is why they made the ammendment. so that they could collect them
                                          Taxes aren't against the principles of the original constitution, only INCOME taxes are.
                                          And the constitution doesn't specifically say that income taxes are wrong, but the supreme court ruled that income tax was unconstitutional, which is why the constitution was amended.

                                          To use your line of thinking, a woman's right to vote is unconstitutional also, but once the constitution gets amended what is and isn't constitutional changes.
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                                          • 69pornlinks
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                                            • Mar 2003
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JDog


                                            YEa find that link, I'd like to see it!

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                                            she was a pilot not attendant, very sexist of me..haha

                                            here's the case number U.S. District Court, Western District of Tennessee (Memphis) # 03-CR-20111, USA v. Kuglin just in case you wanna look it up
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                                            • icecycle
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                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 35

                                              #23
                                              great to see some of you know the deal
                                              for others learn here

                                              http://anon.taxableincome.speedera.net/index_cache.html

                                              the federal reserve is not federal at all...its foreign bankers
                                              and the currency is fiat (not backed by anything)

                                              no constitutional amendment made our income taxable either
                                              Last edited by icecycle; 04-15-2004, 03:03 PM.

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                                              • goBigtime
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                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 7761

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Roger
                                                government is like a big mafia organisation.
                                                forgetaboutit.

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                                                • Snake Doctor
                                                  I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 13449

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by icecycle


                                                  no constitutional amendment made our income taxable either
                                                  Amendment XVI

                                                  The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
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                                                  • icecycle
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                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 35

                                                    #26
                                                    keyword "source"

                                                    follow link in my above post

                                                    also the supreme court has said that the 16th conveyed no new taxing powers

                                                    our income is protected by the constitution
                                                    Last edited by icecycle; 04-15-2004, 03:41 PM.

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                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                      • 13449

                                                      #27
                                                      I followed the link....a bunch of convoluted bullshit if you ask me.

                                                      Reading stuff like that reminds me of reading the unabomber manifesto or the principles of the montana freeman, talking about how money is worthless because it isn't backed by gold and banks are evil institutions controlled by foreign powers blah blah blah.

                                                      The government is coming to get us, let's go blow up a building.

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                                                      • icecycle
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                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                        • 35

                                                        #28
                                                        actually it speaks nothing about blowing up buildings
                                                        but go ahead and continue to pay what you dont owe

                                                        just trying to point a few of you toward the truth

                                                        no problem if you feel otherwise

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                                                        • warlock5
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                                                          • Jan 2004
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                                                          #29
                                                          Who cares whether taxes are illegal, real, fake, or whatever, I'd just like to keep my own money please!

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                                                          • icecycle
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                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 35

                                                            #30
                                                            and that is what the constitution says you can do

                                                            it is your right to keep it

                                                            so please help to educate america since we have been asleep at the wheel

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                                                            • StickyGreen
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                                                              • Oct 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              any educated person should be able to read what i posted originally...and understand that it makes sense...
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                                                              • bringer
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                                                                • Jul 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                http://www.fairtax.org/
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                                                                • The Heron
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Dusen
                                                                  The government cannot just print unlimited amounts of money. This is how you make your dollar worthless.
                                                                  One good statement in a pile of poo. Get a clue the rest of you!

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                                                                  • webmaster x
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    A good read. Thanks.
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                                                                    • Scootermuze
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Lenny2


                                                                      Amendment XVI

                                                                      The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
                                                                      The authority of the federal government to collect its income tax depends upon the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, which was allegedly ratified in 1913. After a year of extensive research, Bill Benson discovered that the 16th Amendment was not ratified by the required 3/4 of the states, but nevertheless Secretary of State Philander Knox fraudulently announced ratification.


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                                                                      • woj
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        It's all smoke and mirrors... the whole world economics is based on the fact that people believe that pieces of paper (money) have value...
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                                                                        • Ash@phpFX
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          interesting, ill read up on this later

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                                                                          • AnalProbe
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                                                                            • Jan 2004
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by woj
                                                                            It's all smoke and mirrors... the whole world economics is based on the fact that people believe that pieces of paper (money) have value...
                                                                            I second that !


                                                                            What would mean that we could launch our own money.

                                                                            As long as the user of that money believes in its worth, it's usable.


                                                                            Imagine Adult Money with nice chicks on it instead of ugly old men.

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                                                                            • icecycle
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 35

                                                                              #39
                                                                              please enough with the 16th amendment

                                                                              if you are a private citizen working in the 50 states
                                                                              collecting a paycheck then you dont make 16th amendment income!

                                                                              more here
                                                                              http://www.originalintent.org/edu/consttax.php

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                                                                              • icecycle
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                                                                                • Mar 2004
                                                                                • 35

                                                                                #40
                                                                                and if you care to learn more about our paper money

                                                                                http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/tma68/griffin.htm


                                                                                if you're not outraged, you're not informed!

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                                                                                • bufferover
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                                                                                  • Jan 2004
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I don't know here lot of people avoid to pay taxes but i realy don't want to have any problems with the law

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                                                                                  • icecycle
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                                                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                                                    • 35

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    and the law you are referring to is?

                                                                                    not avoiding paying taxes
                                                                                    just not into paying taxes im not liable for
                                                                                    Last edited by icecycle; 04-16-2004, 01:00 AM.

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                                                                                    • PigBlimpin'
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                                                                                      • Sep 2003
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      The Income Tax system was implemented under "Wartime" which if you ask anyone with any knowledge of what is going on in the Gov't, the U.S. is ALWAYS in "Wartime". Many laws were started and have stayed in effect because of "Wartime" needs.

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                                                                                      • Dusen
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                                                                                        • Aug 2002
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by StickyGreen
                                                                                        This statement clearly says that the income tax system covers the fraud that government prints its own money. THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED YOUR NUMBERS (DOLLARS). IT CREATES ITS OWN IN UNLIMITED AMOUNTS. BUT THE PEOPLE MUST BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE PAYING TAXES ACCORDING TO "THEIR FAIR SHARE."
                                                                                        I still cannot fathom how anyone believes this for a second. Unlimited amounts? Get a clue.

                                                                                        If you're outraged at the government being able to "create" money without consequences you are obviously ignorant of the consequences of flooding the world with your currency. There ARE consequences, but on a greater level than your paycheque or $30,000 debt owing to the IRS.

                                                                                        You know what you call someone who refuses to pay taxes? A leech. Don't like taxes? Get an accountant and find loopholes or whatnot to save your money. Simply flat out refusing to pay taxes but driving on roads and walking in parks, as well as countless other things is both hypocritical and parasitic.
                                                                                        Last edited by Dusen; 04-16-2004, 03:36 AM.
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                                                                                        • Mr. Marks
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by SuckOnThis
                                                                                          Tell it to the judge and see how far you get.
                                                                                          Or better yet....

                                                                                          Tell it to his cellmate.... see how far that gets him (up his ass!)

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