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  • CumSensei
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 3986
    #1

    If I offer to help the newbies in this game does that make me a bad man?

    From time to time I see new webmasters ask for advice here and get their asses flamed back to the stoneage

    If I offer my help to new people would that make me a bad man?

    If you are new and need some guidance and directions in your prodjects feel free to contact me by icq.

    icq: 20231065

    I helped newbies for over 6 years now and it given me a powerfull network of people over the years.

    Do anyone think you can make it without a network in this bizz?
    CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.
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    • natkejs
      Confirmed User
      • Jan 2003
      • 1640
      #2
      I think it's great if you have the time to do it...
      although ya gotta understand most webmasters don't.

      And the flaming BS you mentioned ... it's just people trying to show off, we all know that ^^

      Keep it up bro!

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        • okny
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2002
          • 5761
          #3
          I always offer help where i can, nothing bad about it just gets a little more respect.
          Aim: okny
          Icq: 306232
          Skype: OlegKrasBT

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            • DR_PHIL
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 4099
              #4
              jealous ass haters Good to help the newbies, never know how many will stick and end up being good partners.

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                • Doctor Dre
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jan 2001
                  • 51692
                  #5
                  Sensei is probably the biggest newbie helper in the industry ... Everytime he can help he does
                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                    • chowda
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 9527
                      #6
                      it comes to a point

                      i want help, but dont want to help others.

                      i guess u can teach the techniques and such, but why teach them how to sell.. u would be cutting into ur own pie anyways..
                      Someone finds you...
                      2007

                      PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                        • spentrent
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 876
                          #7
                          Today's newbies are tomorrow's legend. At least that's what I say to myself naked in the mirror every morning before I drink my raw eggs.

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                            • Lamar
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2001
                              • 22
                              #8
                              Where did the idea that bringing in new people and grooming them during a slow economy come from? Who thought this would be a good idea?

                              Dennis, we've been friends for years and usually we see eye to eye on things but I don't think crowding this industry with affiliates is a good idea when our customer base has less money to spend. The math just doesn't work out brother.

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                                • JFK
                                  FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 67369
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by CumSensei
                                  From time to time I see new webmasters ask for advice here and get their asses flamed back to the stoneage

                                  If I offer my help to new people would that make me a bad man?

                                  If you are new and need some guidance and directions in your prodjects feel free to contact me by icq.

                                  icq: 20231065

                                  I helped newbies for over 6 years now and it given me a powerfull network of people over the years.

                                  Do anyone think you can make it without a network in this bizz?
                                  No , and you are doing the smart thing . I have always stated that the Newbs are the lifeline of the biz.

                                  FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX
                                  For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

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                                    • Doctor Dre
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Lamar
                                      Where did the idea that bringing in new people and grooming them during a slow economy come from? Who thought this would be a good idea?

                                      Dennis, we've been friends for years and usually we see eye to eye on things but I don't think crowding this industry with affiliates is a good idea when our customer base has less money to spend. The math just doesn't work out brother.
                                      If they are here they are gonna get in the business one way or another . We better help them so they don't ruin the traffic and waste it .
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                        • CumSensei
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2001
                                          • 3986
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Lamar
                                          Where did the idea that bringing in new people and grooming them during a slow economy come from? Who thought this would be a good idea?

                                          Dennis, we've been friends for years and usually we see eye to eye on things but I don't think crowding this industry with affiliates is a good idea when our customer base has less money to spend. The math just doesn't work out brother.
                                          Well the new people in this game will still stay even if noone take care of em.

                                          Why not point em in the right direction so they dont make a mess?
                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                            • Lamar
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 22
                                              #12
                                              Ok, so I'm not misunderstood here, I know that there will always be new people coming into this industry. The same is true for any industry. There are several newbies I'm working with currently because they have actively sought me out and asked for the help. I'm ok with that. It's the open invitation that I think is a bad idea. That's newbie farming and it only accelerates the inflation.

                                              If we're all sharing the same pie the goal is that we all have our fill. We can not control the size of the pie but we can control who gets to sit at the table. The pie is stagnant because of a very real, very global, economic slowdown. There is nothing wrong with a few newbies using their option to RSVP and not sit at that table.

                                              If you're gonna help then at the very least be honest. If some new kid doesn't have what it takes then have the balls to tell him so. I've meet many folks that just didn't have the time nor the capacity for understanding that it takes to make it so I tell them honestly that they need to find something else to do. If the rest of you guys want to sheperd the herd then all I ask is that you're honest with these folks.

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                                                • Lykos
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • Apr 2003
                                                  • 31027
                                                  #13
                                                  That is great from u if u can do it

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                                                    • slapass
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                      • 14625
                                                      #14
                                                      helping newbies is good. If they come up with something you can just take it from them. they won't know.

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                                                        • wild-cat
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 908
                                                          #15
                                                          Well they say, when you help someone it comes back to you later. So keep on doing what you do.

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                                                            • MikeHawk
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                              • 6683
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by CumSensei
                                                              From time to time I see new webmasters ask for advice here and get their asses flamed back to the stoneage

                                                              If I offer my help to new people would that make me a bad man?

                                                              If you are new and need some guidance and directions in your prodjects feel free to contact me by icq.

                                                              icq: 20231065

                                                              I helped newbies for over 6 years now and it given me a powerfull network of people over the years.

                                                              Do anyone think you can make it without a network in this bizz?
                                                              Sensei,

                                                              I have always knew doing things and being nice to people...gets you further in this world than being a bitter dick. For me it just feels better being nice than be nasty.

                                                              Always help those who need help..comes back in dividends...never know who you are going to help and how they may or may not help you in the future...



                                                              Mike Hawk

                                                              THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

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                                                                • maxjohan
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                  • 7219
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Lamar
                                                                  Ok, so I'm not misunderstood here, I know that there will always be new people coming into this industry. The same is true for any industry. There are several newbies I'm working with currently because they have actively sought me out and asked for the help. I'm ok with that. It's the open invitation that I think is a bad idea. That's newbie farming and it only accelerates the inflation.

                                                                  If we're all sharing the same pie the goal is that we all have our fill. We can not control the size of the pie but we can control who gets to sit at the table. The pie is stagnant because of a very real, very global, economic slowdown. There is nothing wrong with a few newbies using their option to RSVP and not sit at that table.

                                                                  If you're gonna help then at the very least be honest. If some new kid doesn't have what it takes then have the balls to tell him so. I've meet many folks that just didn't have the time nor the capacity for understanding that it takes to make it so I tell them honestly that they need to find something else to do. If the rest of you guys want to sheperd the herd then all I ask is that you're honest with these folks.
                                                                  hummm... Intresting, it's a fact that most affiliates dont send more than a couple of hits per month or nothing. I don't really know, but people need to know BEFORE they start in this business- what it really takes, this is not easy money without work(what I thought before
                                                                  I went in to this biz)...

                                                                  You also need to think about- people do
                                                                  leave this industry too.

                                                                  AND... It's no secret that your popularity will not grow
                                                                  from all people ALREADY involved in this biz.

                                                                  But who can statisfy all people?

                                                                  Last edited by maxjohan; 04-15-2004, 12:57 PM.
                                                                  I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls...

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                                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                      best designer on GFY
                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                      • 30307
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I pin point a smart newbie from stupid newbies.
                                                                      There is a big difference between the two figuring out what is a smart one and stupid is not easy but when ya find a smart one its well worth the subtle tips to them, they tend to remember things like that down the road.

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                                                                        • CumSensei
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 3986
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Well lamar I am not saying I take people from the street and teach them all I know

                                                                          But I do not mind giving pointers to new people.

                                                                          I would never teach people everything I learned over the years.

                                                                          That is just not possible.

                                                                          But I would however give them a idea what to do and how to do it.

                                                                          After that its up to them if they got it or not.
                                                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                            • Ic3m4nZ
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                                              • 6285
                                                                              #20
                                                                              It's good to help them they will maybe help you later

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                                                                                • Spunky
                                                                                  I need a beer
                                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                                  • 133978
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Well hopefully the people that you have helped wind up signing up under some of your programs and not forget all about you.I think sadly thats the problem,they expect free advice that you had to learn the hard way through trial and error and they just dissapear after while.
                                                                                  Sure you don't expect them to become good friends but don't use a person either.

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                                                                                    • CumSensei
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                      • 3986
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by spunky1
                                                                                      Well hopefully the people that you have helped wind up signing up under some of your programs and not forget all about you.I think sadly thats the problem,they expect free advice that you had to learn the hard way through trial and error and they just dissapear after while.
                                                                                      Sure you don't expect them to become good friends but don't use a person either.
                                                                                      Well its all about how you help them I think
                                                                                      CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                        • webmaster x
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 4400
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I don't see anything wrong with that. You're just helping...
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                                                                                            • The Other Steve
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 2106
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Well someone has to say it:

                                                                                              You're an idiot - helping newbies is the worst thing you can do - you end up with a bunch of industry cripples who expect you to do the work for them.

                                                                                              You find your site designs and your ideas stolen and used - and half the idiots don't even have enough of a clue to change the referrer codes in the sites they stole from you.

                                                                                              Then you also face the problem of giving some one advice and getting abused when they go broke because they are too stupid to take your advice.

                                                                                              Helping newbies if for people who love wasting their time.

                                                                                              I may not entirely agree with what I just said but after doing it for several years I'm getting closer and closer to agreeing with every syllable of what I just wrote.
                                                                                              Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

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                                                                                                • Trax
                                                                                                  [----------------------]
                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                  • 14486
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                                                  Well someone has to say it:

                                                                                                  You're an idiot - helping newbies is the worst thing you can do - you end up with a bunch of industry cripples who expect you to do the work for them.

                                                                                                  You find your site designs and your ideas stolen and used - and half the idiots don't even have enough of a clue to change the referrer codes in the sites they stole from you.

                                                                                                  Then you also face the problem of giving some one advice and getting abused when they go broke because they are too stupid to take your advice.

                                                                                                  Helping newbies if for people who love wasting their time.

                                                                                                  I may not entirely agree with what I just said but after doing it for several years I'm getting closer and closer to agreeing with every syllable of what I just wrote.
                                                                                                  i agree to that
                                                                                                  i dont need competition either
                                                                                                  what for lol

                                                                                                  i remember people on GFY stated that competition is 'GOOD'

                                                                                                  morons

                                                                                                  (sorry sensei )

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                                                                                                    • Chris
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 27880
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      you can help me out by giving me a gallery spot on your site
                                                                                                      [email protected]

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                                                                                                        • CumSensei
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 3986
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Other Steve
                                                                                                          Well someone has to say it:

                                                                                                          You're an idiot - helping newbies is the worst thing you can do - you end up with a bunch of industry cripples who expect you to do the work for them.

                                                                                                          You find your site designs and your ideas stolen and used - and half the idiots don't even have enough of a clue to change the referrer codes in the sites they stole from you.

                                                                                                          Then you also face the problem of giving some one advice and getting abused when they go broke because they are too stupid to take your advice.

                                                                                                          Helping newbies if for people who love wasting their time.

                                                                                                          I may not entirely agree with what I just said but after doing it for several years I'm getting closer and closer to agreeing with every syllable of what I just wrote.
                                                                                                          Sorry to hear you are so full of hate.

                                                                                                          Guess you where never new to this game.
                                                                                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                            • Theo
                                                                                                              HAL 9000
                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                              • 34515
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              my anti-newbie rap song:

                                                                                                              My success would be the death of you
                                                                                                              Low and behold, you sold ya soul, theres nothing left of you
                                                                                                              Look in the mirror, ask yourself, who are you If you dont know what you do, how could ya dreams come true

                                                                                                              Muthafucka newbie, I sat backed and watched ya, you pretended to be a playa
                                                                                                              Till this industry die you won't get any help from me- from me
                                                                                                              And you can hate it or love it, but thats what it's go'n be- go'n be
                                                                                                              Shoulda listened, I told you not to fuck wit me- wit me
                                                                                                              Now can you take the pressure, that's what we go'n see- go'n see

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                                                                                                                • CumSensei
                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                  • 3986
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by JupZChris
                                                                                                                  you can help me out by giving me a gallery spot on your site
                                                                                                                  Sure man just hit me up.
                                                                                                                  CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                    • Mr. Marks
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                      • 7517
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Nope it doesn't make you bad at all.

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                                                                                                                        • ZeroFate
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                          • 257
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Hey, i have to say THANKS for giving us a hand.
                                                                                                                          I'm not a sig whore.....yet!

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                                                                                                                            • Brujah
                                                                                                                              Beer Money Baron
                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                              • 22157
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Keep on bro.. you're doin great.

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                                                                                                                                • Nylz
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 8285
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Nice offer
                                                                                                                                  If you list my galleries I'll be happy

                                                                                                                                  Btw.. what's everyone's definition of a 'newbie'? Should be interesting to see ;)
                                                                                                                                  Last edited by Nylz; 04-16-2004, 12:05 AM.
                                                                                                                                  No sig.

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                                                                                                                                    • The Other Steve
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 2106
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CumSensei


                                                                                                                                      Sorry to hear you are so full of hate.

                                                                                                                                      Guess you where never new to this game.
                                                                                                                                      Don't be a complete moron - just because I dared voice an opposing opinion you have to label me a hater?

                                                                                                                                      Of course I was new and I owe a lot to the guys who started me on the path that I am now on - people like Rowdy and Frank from ANS - Danger Dave and others as well.

                                                                                                                                      Of course I understand how it is to be a newbie but I didn't try to feed of the guys who showed me how to get started and you are just an insulting fool if you think that what I have said in any way shows that I am full of hate or don't understand what it is like to be a newbie.

                                                                                                                                      You come back and say that to me when you have been threatened with blackmail by some halfwitted prick - who posts on GFY btw - because after spending hours on ICQ trying to help him and even phoning him in America from where I live in Australia I suggested that he actually try to ftp something to his site himself!

                                                                                                                                      If you want to start serious discussion here then be prepared for dissenting views - if all you want is people to pat you on your head and tell you what a good guy you are for helping newbies then for fucks sake say that in your first post and people like me won't waste our time on dipshits like you.
                                                                                                                                      Last edited by The Other Steve; 04-16-2004, 12:10 AM.
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                                                                                                                                        • CumSensei
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 3986
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by The Other Steve


                                                                                                                                          Don't be a complete moron - just because I dared voice an opposing opinion you have to label me a hater?

                                                                                                                                          Of course I was new and I owe a lot to the guys who started me on the path that I am now on - people like Rowdy and Frank from ARS - Danger Dave and others as well.

                                                                                                                                          Of course I understand how it is to be a newbie but I didn't try to feed of the guys who showed me how to get started and you are just an insulting fool if you think that what I have said in any way shows that I am full of hate or don't understand what it is like to be a newbie.

                                                                                                                                          You come back and say that to me when you have been threatened with blackmail by some halfwitted prick - who posts on GFY btw - because after spending hours and even phoning him in America from where I live in Australia I suggested that he actually try to ftp something to his site himself!

                                                                                                                                          If you want to start serious discussion here then be prepared for dissenting views - if all you want is people to pat you on your head and tell you what a good guy you are for helping newbies then for fucks sake say that in your first post and people like me won't waste our time on dipshits like you.
                                                                                                                                          Well maby hate was the wrong word then

                                                                                                                                          It seems like you maby helped out a little to much in your days.

                                                                                                                                          I would never take on a guy who have 0 know how about this game.

                                                                                                                                          But I do not mind helping people who might have some questions or want some feedback on prodjects they done.

                                                                                                                                          I dont say my way is the best or only way at all I just offer my opinion and honesty.

                                                                                                                                          And I do not try to come on like im the good guy all the time but I do not mind to help a person out. But ofcourse if they fuck up or do something terribly wrong like stealing stuff or just act plain stupid even after I helped them they end up on my ignore list and it can take a few month or years to get in contact with me again ;)


                                                                                                                                          So sorry if I made you feel like I was calling you a hater...

                                                                                                                                          My english is not that good
                                                                                                                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                                            • jayeff
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                                                              • 2944
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by chowda
                                                                                                                                              why teach them how to sell.. u would be cutting into ur own pie anyways..
                                                                                                                                              That really is a cop-out which sounds good for all of thirty seconds if you actually think about it.

                                                                                                                                              This is the INTERNET, not Main Street in a small town! What are the odds that you and your protogé will ever target the exact same surfer? And if you think about the payback - building a network of people (not all of whom will be ungrateful assh*les) plus the chance that some will have fresh ideas right away - and if you have the time, helping people out is a great investment.

                                                                                                                                              It isn't just about newbies: most of us are paranoid about telling anyone anything useful. So what if 500 people read an info-post and only 2 of them ever hahahahaha informative posts in return? That's still twice as much information coming back as you are giving away. And that's only intended as fake logic for the people who still haven't figured out that you can show someone exactly how you made money and they still won't be able to do it.

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                                                                                                                                                • The Other Steve
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 2106
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CumSensei


                                                                                                                                                  Well maby hate was the wrong word then

                                                                                                                                                  It seems like you maby helped out a little to much in your days.

                                                                                                                                                  I would never take on a guy who have 0 know how about this game.

                                                                                                                                                  But I do not mind helping people who might have some questions or want some feedback on prodjects they done.

                                                                                                                                                  I dont say my way is the best or only way at all I just offer my opinion and honesty.

                                                                                                                                                  And I do not try to come on like im the good guy all the time but I do not mind to help a person out. But ofcourse if they fuck up or do something terribly wrong like stealing stuff or just act plain stupid even after I helped them they end up on my ignore list and it can take a few month or years to get in contact with me again ;)


                                                                                                                                                  So sorry if I made you feel like I was calling you a hater...

                                                                                                                                                  My english is not that good
                                                                                                                                                  Yeah well ... you may not be a dipshit either
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                                                                                                                                                    • iwantchixx
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                                                      • 12860
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Bottom line is this. If helping newbies fattens your wallet, then go for it. If it doesn't fatten your wallet in any way, maybe you should keep the help to yourself. But, even if it fattens your wallet, is it possible this person may be in direct competition with you if they take your advice and apply it successfuly? In which case, maybe it's also best to keep things on the low down.

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                                                                                                                                                        • CumSensei
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 3986
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Well alot of the people I helped a few years back now are my best friends and help me out with thuff I might not be able to fix myself.

                                                                                                                                                          SO love comes back to you
                                                                                                                                                          CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                                                            • teenoffice
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                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                              • 415
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Sensei could you help me too ? always intrested in some extra people, by the way long time no see dude. Hit me up on icq 94586225 Ragnar
                                                                                                                                                              Last edited by teenoffice; 04-16-2004, 12:43 PM.
                                                                                                                                                              Nothing here.

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                                                                                                                                                                • chowda
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 9527
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jayeff


                                                                                                                                                                  That really is a cop-out which sounds good for all of thirty seconds if you actually think about it.

                                                                                                                                                                  This is the INTERNET, not Main Street in a small town! What are the odds that you and your protogé will ever target the exact same surfer? And if you think about the payback - building a network of people (not all of whom will be ungrateful assh*les) plus the chance that some will have fresh ideas right away - and if you have the time, helping people out is a great investment.

                                                                                                                                                                  It isn't just about newbies: most of us are paranoid about telling anyone anything useful. So what if 500 people read an info-post and only 2 of them ever hahahahaha informative posts in return? That's still twice as much information coming back as you are giving away. And that's only intended as fake logic for the people who still haven't figured out that you can show someone exactly how you made money and they still won't be able to do it.
                                                                                                                                                                  helping is one thing. showing how to do galleries, tgps and what not is cool with me.

                                                                                                                                                                  things that i wont teach/tell: my keywords, search engine manipulation.

                                                                                                                                                                  Perfect example is expired domains: the more ppl that know, the harder it will be to get it.
                                                                                                                                                                  Someone finds you...
                                                                                                                                                                  2007

                                                                                                                                                                  PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • CumSensei
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by teenoffice
                                                                                                                                                                      Sensei could you help me too ? always intrested in some extra people, by the way long time no see dude. Hit me up on icq 94586225 Ragnar
                                                                                                                                                                      Sure man!
                                                                                                                                                                      I still got you on my list.

                                                                                                                                                                      So I just throw ya a msg now
                                                                                                                                                                      CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • teenoffice
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Great dude,



                                                                                                                                                                          Was nice talking eyhh, gonna do some buiz with you tomorrow when do we meet in Göthenborg ? I can't resist those girls in Sweden.
                                                                                                                                                                          Nothing here.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • CumSensei
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Hehe well I am gonna party all day today because of a friend who have his 30th birthday
                                                                                                                                                                              CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • titmowse
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  i kinda dig helping newbies.
                                                                                                                                                                                  I still love everybody

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • CumSensei
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah well according to my icq list after this thread was posted there are alot of people who want some guidance
                                                                                                                                                                                      CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Yo sensei you got thread of the day ... you get yourself a sweatshirt
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                                                          I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Tim
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Nope - it makes you a very good man I think, provided you don't have an ulterior motive that is too deceptive!
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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Babagirls
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  i encourage it!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                  been YEARS since someone on this board helped out a newbie!!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                  fuck the name callers, do it!!!!!!




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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Sensei you make miss the old hahahahahahaha and AWI days there ...every1 was helpfull
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                                                                                                                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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