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  • KRL
    Entrepreneur
    • Oct 2002
    • 31429
    #1

    Interesting New Billing Concept

    ChargeMeLater.com

    But apparently the FTC doesn't like it.

    They mention NoCreditCard.com and RJB Telecom in this article also.

    http://www.forbes.com/execpicks/2004...318credit.html
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    • Headless
      Registered User
      • Jan 2001
      • 26727
      #2
      Interesting read... Chargemelater actually sounds like a solution. If it gets past the wolves...

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        • JOKER
          Facit Omnia Voluntas
          • Apr 2003
          • 2105
          #3
          Kind of innovative, I like that.

          Let's see if they can stand the heat and stay in the market.

          Would be an alternative to everything and worth a try.


          Take care,
          JOKER
          Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing
          Skype: jokerempire | Silent Circle: joker

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            • MrIzzz
              If u touch it, I will cum
              • Sep 2003
              • 22923
              #4
              interesting

              and the amazing part is that finally, something interesting has come form NJ


              WHO WANTS TO PLAY GRAB-ASS?

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                • Chris
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • May 2003
                  • 27880
                  #5
                  ...Hmm kinda confussing but intersting non the less
                  [email protected]

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                    • fatbaby
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 486
                      #6
                      KRL.. check out the billing solution in my sig... a similar concept that we've been developing for the past 9 months....

                      and we dont have any problems with the FTC ;-)

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                        • AaronM
                          GFY Royality ;)
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 46917
                          #7
                          Originally posted by fatbaby
                          KRL.. check out the billing solution in my sig... a similar concept that we've been developing for the past 9 months....

                          and we dont have any problems with the FTC ;-)
                          I was just about to post a link there.

                          Fuck it...

                          www.123bill.com

                          Here's another option I am considering:

                          www.duocash.com

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                            • fatbaby
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 486
                              #8
                              Thanks for the link ArronM ;-)

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                                • tony299
                                  lurker
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 57021
                                  #9
                                  I would say 50% would pay at best. Checks are the way to go, with better scrubbing and fraud controls. There is no reason why that cant happen when mainstream has that.

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                                    • Nysus
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 7817
                                      #10
                                      I was about to post 123Bill.com which is owned and developed by Brad (SinEmpire). Very good guy.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Matt
                                      What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now

                                      Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for *pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets*

                                      See http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?p=16744521 and for more detailed see http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=948645

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                                        • 123Jason
                                          Registered User
                                          • Dec 2003
                                          • 89
                                          #11
                                          if anyone is interested in 123Bill hit me up in email or icq and I'll be happy to help you out with anything.
                                          Account Representative, ChiChiClicks Toll Free 1-800-997-9071 x 245 | ICQ #267863713

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                                            • Shok
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 5611
                                              #12
                                              Is that like billmelater.com?

                                              I have used them for a few years now on nonadult buys.

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                                                • imageman
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 1938
                                                  #13
                                                  am i reading this correctly you pay out just 65% and keep 35% ?

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                                                    • sperbonzo
                                                      I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 9750
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by AaronM


                                                      I was just about to post a link there.

                                                      Fuck it...

                                                      www.123bill.com

                                                      Here's another option I am considering:

                                                      www.duocash.com
                                                      Thanks Aaron! If anyone has any questions I'm pretty much ALWAYS available by phone, email or whatever. (I really don't have a life....)

                                                      You can also check out http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp

                                                      (BTW, I still owe you a breakfast dude....thanks!)
                                                      Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                      [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

                                                      ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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                                                        • fatbaby
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 486
                                                          #15
                                                          Shok.. similar concept, but we dont have any restrictions about Adult....


                                                          am i reading this correctly you pay out just 65% and keep 35% ?
                                                          Yes, you read that right... WE assume all liability for collection, and GUARANTEE payment to the merchant. The Merchant gets paid, period ... no concerns about chargeback, collections, ect

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                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 40377
                                                              #16
                                                              As many as 87% of U.S. consumers are still worried about using their credit cards to make Internet purchases, according to one recent survey.
                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                • SinEmpire
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                  • 9813
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Hi Everyone

                                                                  I'm happy to talk billing anytime, anyplace...

                                                                  Yes 35% is the fee but you're comprehending it wrong, most likely. It's not 35% on collected, our fee is 35% on gross. That means that all uncollected amounts, the cost of collections, chargebacks, refunds... everything comes out of that 35%. So, from the point that you make a sale you know that you're going to receive a check with my signature on it.

                                                                  Realize that we're not presenting ourselves as everyone's first choice as a primary billing method. What I am saying is that rather than send US traffic to a dialer or 900 solution, send them to 123Bill. Not only will you have the opportunity for recurring billing, but our financial model allows for trial pricing and ultimately will net the merchant more then ever possible with either other method.

                                                                  More questions? I'm happy to answer them here in the forum, on the phone, over ICQ or through email. Whatever is easiest for you!

                                                                  Cheers,

                                                                  Brad
                                                                  President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                                                  71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                                                    • AaronM
                                                                      GFY Royality ;)
                                                                      • Oct 2001
                                                                      • 46917
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by sperbonzo


                                                                      Thanks Aaron! If anyone has any questions I'm pretty much ALWAYS available by phone, email or whatever. (I really don't have a life....)

                                                                      You can also check out http://www.duocash.com/merchants.jsp

                                                                      (BTW, I still owe you a breakfast dude....thanks!)
                                                                      Shit...I completely forgot about that. Buy my sig space for the month of June and we can call it even.

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                                                                        • Kimmykim
                                                                          bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                          • 16015
                                                                          #19
                                                                          If I'm not mistaken, Alyon has already gone a few rounds with the FTC and ended up the winner.

                                                                          The guy who wrote this article is just like Forbes own little Luke Ford, imo.

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                                                                            • Steelhead
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 586
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by KRL
                                                                              ChargeMeLater.com

                                                                              But apparently the FTC doesn't like it.

                                                                              They mention NoCreditCard.com and RJB Telecom in this article also.

                                                                              http://www.forbes.com/execpicks/2004...318credit.html
                                                                              You know if they mention Nocreditcard.com it has to be good
                                                                              VENDO - The AI Biller

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                                                                                • Nicky
                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 30071
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  It it works its good, everyway to get them to pay is good

                                                                                  gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                                                                    • steffie
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 2422
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                      I was just about to post a link there.

                                                                                      Fuck it...

                                                                                      www.123bill.com

                                                                                      Here's another option I am considering:

                                                                                      www.duocash.com
                                                                                      I actually took time and checked out DuoCash. They send me a contract for me to read etc etc blah blah,, at the 6th page on the buttom it said that after 6 month they charge $ 2500.00. So be careful. However I do agree this is not a bad system.
                                                                                      Partying since '96 and not going anywhere Anna's Dorm

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                                                                                        • Jer
                                                                                          God is Brazilian
                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 10601
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          123Bill.com is a very nice concept.

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                                                                                            • slackologist
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                                              • 2379
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              new billing methods that catch on in rapidly expanding markets will provide a big boom for some well placed companies i'm sure.

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                                                                                                • Shoehorn!
                                                                                                  Die With Your Boots On
                                                                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                                                                  • 22872
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Wow, should be interesting to see how that all pans out.

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                                                                                                    • SinEmpire
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                      • 9813
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom
                                                                                                      Wow, should be interesting to see how that all pans out.
                                                                                                      Indeed! And I met Michael from DuoCash at the Phoenix show too, btw, was a very nice guy. I embarassed myself when asked if I was familiar with his program I said I thought it was an affiliate program... see, that's what that RedBull and Vodka will do to ya!



                                                                                                      Brad
                                                                                                      President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                                                                                      71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                                                                                        • justsexxx
                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                          • 13723
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Good and interesting read.

                                                                                                          Andre
                                                                                                          Questions?

                                                                                                          ICQ: 125184542

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                                                                                                            • SinEmpire
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                                              • 9813
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              If I can answer any more questions about the service, please let me know!!!

                                                                                                              Brad
                                                                                                              President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                                                                                              71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                                                                                                • Mutt
                                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                  • 34431
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                                                  I was just about to post a link there.

                                                                                                                  Fuck it...

                                                                                                                  www.123bill.com

                                                                                                                  Here's another option I am considering:

                                                                                                                  www.duocash.com
                                                                                                                  Duocash processes for underage sites. Consider their scruples, or lack thereof.
                                                                                                                  I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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                                                                                                                    • Jizar II
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                                                                      • 1425
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SinEmpire

                                                                                                                      More questions? I'm happy to answer them here in the forum, on the phone, over ICQ or through email. Whatever is easiest for you!

                                                                                                                      Cheers,

                                                                                                                      Brad
                                                                                                                      Hi, your product looks very interesting I looked at your Sinbucks site portfolio, and couldn't see the 123bill as payment option on your own sites, why is that? Do you consider 123bill as a "last resort" payment option like a dialer?

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                                                                                                                        • wanderingbear
                                                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                          • 48
                                                                                                                          #31
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                                                                                                                            • sperbonzo
                                                                                                                              I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                              • 9750
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by steffie


                                                                                                                              I actually took time and checked out DuoCash. They send me a contract for me to read etc etc blah blah,, at the 6th page on the buttom it said that after 6 month they charge $ 2500.00. So be careful. However I do agree this is not a bad system.
                                                                                                                              Steffie, get back in touch with me.....we have decided to waive the set up fees right now, so the $2500 is no longer applicable. Send me an email or an ICQ or call.....You can simply cross off the set up fees, hahahahaha "waived" under it, and intitial next to it. You can then fax it to me at 1 208 441 2292
                                                                                                                              Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                                                                                              [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

                                                                                                                              ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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                                                                                                                                • sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                  I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 9750
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                                                                  Shit...I completely forgot about that. Buy my sig space for the month of June and we can call it even.

                                                                                                                                  NICE! LOL! Let me know what you need me to do
                                                                                                                                  Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                                                                                                  [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

                                                                                                                                  ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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                                                                                                                                    • sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                      I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 9750
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by SinEmpire


                                                                                                                                      Indeed! And I met Michael from DuoCash at the Phoenix show too, btw, was a very nice guy. I embarassed myself when asked if I was familiar with his program I said I thought it was an affiliate program... see, that's what that RedBull and Vodka will do to ya!



                                                                                                                                      Brad
                                                                                                                                      Howdy Brad........ and yes, the vodka and redbulls were frickin' deadly! :-)
                                                                                                                                      Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                                                                                                      [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

                                                                                                                                      ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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                                                                                                                                        • AaronM
                                                                                                                                          GFY Royality ;)
                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 46917
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by sperbonzo



                                                                                                                                          NICE! LOL! Let me know what you need me to do
                                                                                                                                          Read this thread and you will see what you have just gotten yourself into.

                                                                                                                                          http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=268718

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                                                                                                                                            • sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                              I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 9750
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by AaronM


                                                                                                                                              Read this thread and you will see what you have just gotten yourself into.

                                                                                                                                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=268718

                                                                                                                                              I understand.....and will obey!


                                                                                                                                              Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                                                                                                              [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

                                                                                                                                              ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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                                                                                                                                                • SinEmpire
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 9813
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Jizar II


                                                                                                                                                  Hi, your product looks very interesting I looked at your Sinbucks site portfolio, and couldn't see the 123bill as payment option on your own sites, why is that? Do you consider 123bill as a "last resort" payment option like a dialer?
                                                                                                                                                  Not at all... two reasons it's not on the SinBucks site. First is that it's basically new, we've been beta testing it. Second is that we're waiting to complete integration with MPA2, in the interim our programmer got everything figured out so that we're able to track and report for our affiliates internally so that at least we can start using it, reporting and paying on it

                                                                                                                                                  Cheers,

                                                                                                                                                  Brad
                                                                                                                                                  President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                                                                                                                                  71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                                                                                                                                    • SinEmpire
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 9813
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Jizar II


                                                                                                                                                      Hi, your product looks very interesting I looked at your Sinbucks site portfolio, and couldn't see the 123bill as payment option on your own sites, why is that? Do you consider 123bill as a "last resort" payment option like a dialer?
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Jizar II


                                                                                                                                                      Hi, your product looks very interesting I looked at your Sinbucks site portfolio, and couldn't see the 123bill as payment option on your own sites, why is that? Do you consider 123bill as a "last resort" payment option like a dialer?
                                                                                                                                                      Not at all... two reasons it's not on the SinBucks site. First is that it's basically new, we've been beta testing it. Second is that we're waiting to complete integration with MPA2, in the interim our programmer got everything figured out so that we're able to track and report for our affiliates internally so that at least we can start using it, reporting and paying on it

                                                                                                                                                      Cheers,

                                                                                                                                                      Brad
                                                                                                                                                      President at MojoHost | brad at mojohost dot com | Skype MojoHostBrad
                                                                                                                                                      71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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                                                                                                                                                        • sperbonzo
                                                                                                                                                          I'd rather be on my boat.
                                                                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 9750
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          So Aaron.......when are you going to get back to me anyway.....still "digesting" the stuff I sent you? Like I said above, we are waiving the set up fee right now, so this is a no lose situation for you....

                                                                                                                                                          let me know.
                                                                                                                                                          Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing

                                                                                                                                                          [email protected] / http://Acellafinancial.com/

                                                                                                                                                          ICQ 177961090 / Tel +1 909 NET BILL / Skype msperber

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