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  • jedmaster2112
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 16

    #1

    The Word About HIV: AVN Lacks Ethics

    Fuck man, am I wrong here, or is AVN starting an HIV lynch mob? This strikes me as being really unethical and unfair to the people who aren't yet aware that they have been exposed.

    Whatever happened to a little medical privacy?

    Jeez, I know we're all in the porn industry, but this could be damning for those performers listed in the article.

    http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80458
    JedMaster2112
  • JFK
    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
    • Jan 2002
    • 67369

    #2
    Originally posted by jedmaster2112
    Fuck man, am I wrong here, or is AVN starting an HIV lynch mob? This strikes me as being really unethical and unfair to the people who aren't yet aware that they have been exposed.

    Whatever happened to a little medical privacy?

    Jeez, I know we're all in the porn industry, but this could be damning for those performers listed in the article.

    http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80458
    The other side of the coin is, maybee they would never know if it wasnt for AVN and they would carry on infecting others meanwhile.......think about that !

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    • Doctor Dre
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      • Jan 2001
      • 51692

      #3
      WRONG . This is a thing that you can't hide in adult industry . He signed papers with AIM and if he catch aids, he knew it would have been public.

      It's your profetional life, not your private life . If you get hurt during a job as a construction worker or something ppl don'T try to hide it .
      Originally posted by rayadp05
      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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      • XxShiznaughtxX
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        • Apr 2004
        • 408

        #4
        Hehe the only morality these guys have is when it comes to AIDS
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        • XBizSuzette
          Registered User
          • Mar 2004
          • 24

          #5
          OMG! How stupid! Have we just regressed to the Salem Witch Trials?! They name names even! How can that be legal?
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          • stevecore
            Confirmed User
            • May 2003
            • 6130

            #6
            i think that chick they can't find might be this patricia that dugmor was out with last nite...she's apparently linked to judy starr.

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            • JFK
              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
              • Jan 2002
              • 67369

              #7
              Originally posted by stevecore
              i think that chick they can't find might be this patricia that dugmor was out with last nite...she's apparently linked to judy starr.

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              • stevecore
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                • May 2003
                • 6130

                #8
                Originally posted by JFK


                Nice Looking Collection
                oh yeah, very nice! i dunno if it's her or not, just speculating since it the info seems to point in their direction. hope they can find everyone and let them know whats going on.

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                • Fletch XXX
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                  • Jan 2002
                  • 60840

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stevecore


                  oh yeah, very nice! i dunno if it's her or not, just speculating since it the info seems to point in their direction. hope they can find everyone and let them know whats going on.
                  what is going on?

                  any links?

                  missing girls?

                  huh?

                  fill me in

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                  • Babel
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                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1457

                    #10
                    There is no turning the clock around with HIV

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                    • Joesho
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 12329

                      #11
                      I agree with the decision to make the names public.... it is the right thing to do when one weighs out the alternatives..
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                      • JFK
                        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                        • Jan 2002
                        • 67369

                        #12
                        Originally posted by stevecore


                        oh yeah, very nice! i dunno if it's her or not, just speculating since it the info seems to point in their direction. hope they can find everyone and let them know whats going on.
                        someone must have Dugmors phone # in here

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                        • stevecore
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                          • May 2003
                          • 6130

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JFK


                          someone must have Dugmors phone # in here
                          he's in LA, saw him a few nites ago... i'll pass it along to him

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                          • jedmaster2112
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

                            Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?
                            JedMaster2112

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                            • Mutt
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 34431

                              #15
                              Adult talent signs a waiver when they go for testing at AIM. They waive their right to privacy in the event of an HIV outbreak, this information has to be made public. Would you want another Marc Wallice situation? Everyhahahaha has to know.

                              this is brutal, Jessica Dee, who is very close friends with Joe from AMA Content, this Patricia girl from Montreal, i think another girl from Canada

                              pray for all these people this is a false positive or these girls test negative
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                              • genomega
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                                • Feb 2002
                                • 1190

                                #16
                                I'm sure they are doing what their lawyers advise them to do.


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                                • cherrylula
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                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 15969

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jedmaster2112
                                  Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

                                  Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?
                                  Sorry but people's lives at stake here, the info would get out regardless of who publishes it.

                                  And I think maybe they're used to a little exposure and humiliation being porn stars and all

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                                  • Fletch XXX
                                    GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 60840

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                    Adult talent signs a waiver when they go for testing at AIM. They waive their right to privacy in the event of an HIV outbreak, this information has to be made public. Would you want another Marc Wallice situation? Everyhahahaha has to know.

                                    this is brutal, Jessica Dee, who is very close friends with Joe from AMA Content, this Patricia girl from Montreal, i think another girl from Canada

                                    pray for all these people this is a false positive or these girls test negative
                                    Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

                                    Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

                                    Where did HE get it?

                                    Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

                                    Possible no?

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                                    • Doctor Dre
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                                      • Jan 2001
                                      • 51692

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by stevecore
                                      i think that chick they can't find might be this patricia that dugmor was out with last nite...she's apparently linked to judy starr.

                                      I dunno but dugmor got too many girls to take care off for a single man
                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                      • JFK
                                        FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 67369

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                        Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

                                        Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

                                        Where did HE get it?

                                        Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

                                        Possible no?
                                        Yes your scenario is quite possible, it would have come from somewhere. Now everyone is sitting up and taking notice. At this point its not imptorant what came first the chicken or the egg! Lets try and not pass it on.

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                                        • Mutt
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                                          • Sep 2002
                                          • 34431

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                          Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

                                          Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

                                          Where did HE get it?

                                          Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

                                          Possible no?
                                          i think with more testing, that viral load test they are waiting for, they can pinpoint more closely when exactly he came into contact with the HIV virus. Then it's up to him to figure out who he was with professionally and non-professionally.

                                          And yeah, he could have gotten it from one of those girls, he just tested positive first. But AIM probably has those girls on record and i am speculating that they all have later clean tests than Darren James did.
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                                          • chaos-CME
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                                            • Jun 2003
                                            • 1348

                                            #22
                                            Man again here it is that you fucks sit here and not know one thing about the industry that you promote and make money off of .. AIM is a service to all of us in the adult industry and has been for years they have saved thousands of lives over the years and are very much appreciated by the "real" porn community in the valley ...

                                            you sit there and talk about fucking bad press and shit and we are talking about containing something deadly ... Lawyers?? what the fuck is that .. you need to go back to your fucking dorm room and get a clue ... 12 years in this industry and when this happened to brooke ashley many years back AIM was the one that kept it from spreading to the rest of the adult community ...

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                                            • Mr.Fiction
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                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 9484

                                              #23
                                              If they signed a release when they had the test, there is no question that AVN is doing the right thing.

                                              Without a third party being authorized to tell the industry about these people, how can you be sure all of them would stop working?

                                              Now it's out in the open and it can be dealt with by everyone involved.
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                                              • [dfo]
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Dec 2002
                                                • 799

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

                                                Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

                                                Where did HE get it?

                                                Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

                                                Possible no?
                                                this is a quote from another avn article:
                                                "According to Dr. Sharon Mitchell, executive director of AIM, in between his last two test dates, "this male talent went to Brazil and worked non-condom. We have spoken with T.T. Boy, whose production company James worked for."

                                                http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80454

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                                                • justsexxx
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                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                  • 13723

                                                  #25
                                                  Really scary story...Maybe it's me. But without protection you never can be 100% sure...

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                                                  • [dfo]
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                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 799

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                    Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

                                                    Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

                                                    Where did HE get it?

                                                    Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

                                                    Possible no?
                                                    this is a quote from another avn article:
                                                    "According to Dr. Sharon Mitchell, executive director of AIM, in between his last two test dates, "this male talent went to Brazil and worked non-condom. We have spoken with T.T. Boy, whose production company James worked for."

                                                    http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80454

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                                                    • Vic Lagina
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                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                      • 1409

                                                      #27
                                                      Man, this shit is scary.

                                                      This is why I prefer to shoot couples...

                                                      This is why I would never be a stunt cock...

                                                      This is why I am glad I am in a monogamous relationship...

                                                      Here's to hoping that it's a false positive and that nohahahaha is infected...
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                                                      • pornstar2pac
                                                        Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 17380

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jedmaster2112
                                                        Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

                                                        Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?

                                                        dude, even if they were completly wrong and named the wrong people, just by mentioning it could save 1 life. this doesn't "happen" everyday in the industry. I would have never known if they didn't come out with names.



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                                                        • Fletch XXX
                                                          GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                          • 60840

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by [dfo]


                                                          this is a quote from another avn article:
                                                          "According to Dr. Sharon Mitchell, executive director of AIM, in between his last two test dates, "this male talent went to Brazil and worked non-condom. We have spoken with T.T. Boy, whose production company James worked for."

                                                          http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80454
                                                          Sad thing is, wasnt TTBoy atround when marc Wallice was pulling his crap?

                                                          Youd think some of these Veteran stars would learn somethings over the years.

                                                          Aim can release whatever info they want, rightfully so.

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                                                          • Paul Waters
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                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                            • 4402

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by genomega
                                                            I'm sure they are doing what their lawyers advise them to do.

                                                            Lawyers??????

                                                            WTF?????

                                                            They should be seeing doctors, man.



                                                            Paul

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                                                            • Mr. Marks
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 7517

                                                              #31
                                                              Persons with HIV should be responsible enough
                                                              to carry condoms around, just in case.

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                                                              • jimmyf
                                                                OU812
                                                                • Feb 2001
                                                                • 12651

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jedmaster2112
                                                                Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

                                                                Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?
                                                                yes yes yes
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                                                                • Kimmykim
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                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                  • 16015

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by papichulo
                                                                  Persons with HIV should be responsible enough
                                                                  to carry condoms around, just in case.
                                                                  I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.

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                                                                  • jimmyf
                                                                    OU812
                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                    • 12651

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Kimmykim

                                                                    I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.
                                                                    I think he's saying, it's ok 2 have sex if you use a condom..

                                                                    some people are dumber than a pile of dam rocks.

                                                                    how would you like it, find out later someone had sex with you, but used a condom, and didn't tell you they had aids.
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                                                                    • Kimmykim
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                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                      • 16015

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jimmyf


                                                                      I think he's saying, it's ok 2 have sex if you use a condom..

                                                                      some people are dumber than a pile of dam rocks.

                                                                      how would you like it, find out later someone had sex with you, but used a condom, and didn't tell you they had aids.
                                                                      I was really hoping that wasn't what he was saying.

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                                                                      • jimmyf
                                                                        OU812
                                                                        • Feb 2001
                                                                        • 12651

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Kimmykim


                                                                        I was really hoping that wasn't what he was saying.
                                                                        just think some of these young people will be running our country someday.
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                                                                        • Axeman
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                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                          • 5201

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by papichulo
                                                                          Persons with HIV should be responsible enough
                                                                          to carry condoms around, just in case.
                                                                          Gotta agree with that
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                                                                          • jimmyf
                                                                            OU812
                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                            • 12651

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Axeman


                                                                            Gotta agree with that
                                                                            another one
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                                                                            • Kimmykim
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                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                              • 16015

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by jimmyf


                                                                              another one
                                                                              Well I guess I'm going to get a beer and hope my eyes stop bleeding from reading this...

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                                                                              • Jimmy Lifestyles
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                                • 341

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by chaos-CME
                                                                                Man again here it is that you fucks sit here and not know one thing about the industry that you promote and make money off of .. AIM is a service to all of us in the adult industry and has been for years they have saved thousands of lives over the years and are very much appreciated by the "real" porn community in the valley ...

                                                                                you sit there and talk about fucking bad press and shit and we are talking about containing something deadly ... Lawyers?? what the fuck is that .. you need to go back to your fucking dorm room and get a clue ... 12 years in this industry and when this happened to brooke ashley many years back AIM was the one that kept it from spreading to the rest of the adult community ...

                                                                                can you please wake up go back to coding and let the real pornographers do their job ...
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                                                                                • pornstar2pac
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                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 17380

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  gangbang girl #40 out yet?
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