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  • JOKER
    Facit Omnia Voluntas
    • Apr 2003
    • 2105

    #1

    Klitschko lost

    Counted while standing? WTF


    Discuss


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  • Dr. Ewen Cameron
    So Fucking Banned
    • Mar 2004
    • 282

    #2
    WTF

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    • Kard63
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2003
      • 8944

      #3
      Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
      Counted while standing? WTF


      Discuss


      Take care,
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      I don't think the standing 8 count should have been used there.

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      • CAHEK
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        • Aug 2003
        • 7455

        #4
        wtf ?? IMPOSSIBLE

        the guy is huge and made like 3X MORE punches.
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        • Digipimp
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          • Mar 2003
          • 13481

          #5
          he and his brother have no heart, that's their flaw

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          • Kard63
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2003
            • 8944

            #6
            Originally posted by CAHEK
            wtf ?? IMPOSSIBLE

            the guy is huge and made like 3X MORE punches.
            I'm glad that cheap fuck lost. He flopped on top of Brewster and put all of his weight on brewsters back everytime they did the gay little hug thing.... whats that called lol.

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            • Axeman
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2004
              • 5201

              #7
              Originally posted by Kard63


              I don't think the standing 8 count should have been used there.

              if he didnt Wladimir would have been knocked out 5 seconds later.
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              • JOKER
                Facit Omnia Voluntas
                • Apr 2003
                • 2105

                #8
                Originally posted by Digipimp
                he and his brother have no heart, that's their flaw
                Interesting POV .

                What makes you think this? The comments after the fight,or is that your own opinion?

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                • JOKER
                  Facit Omnia Voluntas
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 2105

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Axeman



                  if he didnt Wladimir would have been knocked out 5 seconds later.
                  Indeed he was pretty exhausted at that point.

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                  • Digipimp
                    BP4L OT DL
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 13481

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE


                    Interesting POV .

                    What makes you think this? The comments after the fight,or is that your own opinion?

                    J.
                    That's the way those two have always been. They had fights against nobodies and the first times they've had to face competition that didn't just go down they both showed they have no heart and give up or quit like Golota. They're all about the same. It's sad, they both had a ton of potential but no heart. Heart isn't something you can get through training, it's something you either have or you don't.

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #11
                      the standing 8 count was because he hit the ropes so hard, that if they had not been there he would have fallen over. A wall can not save you from being knocked down.

                      It really did not matter as he was soon knocked out on his feet and could not continue, the ref did the right thing by stopping the fight before he got seriously hurt.

                      He has a glass jaw, and really should consider taking up golf.

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                      • baddog
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Axeman



                        if he didnt Wladimir would have been knocked out 5 seconds later.
                        He was knocked out 5 seconds after the standing 8 count, so that is a pretty safe bet

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                        • baddog
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 107089

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CAHEK
                          wtf ?? IMPOSSIBLE

                          the guy is huge and made like 3X MORE punches.
                          You obviously did not watch the fight. Brewster used a method not recommended for all, let the other guy tire himself out pounding on you.

                          Wladimir thought he had it won, and let down his guard . . . . say goodnight Wladi.

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                          • JOKER
                            Facit Omnia Voluntas
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 2105

                            #14
                            Originally posted by baddog
                            the standing 8 count was because he hit the ropes so hard, that if they had not been there he would have fallen over. A wall can not save you from being knocked down.

                            It really did not matter as he was soon knocked out on his feet and could not continue, the ref did the right thing by stopping the fight before he got seriously hurt.

                            He has a glass jaw, and really should consider taking up golf.

                            Hey baddog,how you doin?

                            Good point regards the glass jaw,I kind of share that thought.
                            But it would be interesting to see a fight where he can "household" with his strength and go for 12 rounds.

                            Was it a glass jaw or high pacing - hoping to achieve a knock out asap?

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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE



                              Hey baddog,how you doin?

                              Good point regards the glass jaw,I kind of share that thought.
                              But it would be interesting to see a fight where he can "household" with his strength and go for 12 rounds.

                              Was it a glass jaw or high pacing - hoping to achieve a knock out asap?

                              Steve
                              Doing pretty good . . . as far as him ever going 12 rounds, it would be against a welterweight or lighter. He can not take a punch to save his life.

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                              • cayne
                                My time is coming...
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7475

                                #16
                                Can't understand that he lost. I was sure that he will own his opponent...now the could forget his global carrier...
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                                • ldinternet
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 8245

                                  #17
                                  Shit is fixed.

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                                  • liquidmoe
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 4994

                                    #18
                                    I wasn't watching the beginning of the fight but I tuned for the last two and a half rounds and all I saw was a very tired Klitschko. His left hand was always down instead of up gaurding and unless he is De La Hoya, who can actually box like that, it's a sure sign he's out of strength. They dont take punches well, but I wouldn't really call that a glass jaw. He may have one, but in this case I think it was more a matter of him being just tired. Look at how he was after the fight. He wasn't knocked out, he was hyperventilating, like he just ran a marathon. Punched himself out, or had bad endurance training.

                                    Take Luck!

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                                    • InsaneMidget
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 3767

                                      #19
                                      haha, i'm not sure half of you even seen the fight, Baddog is completely right. I like Klitschko a lot, wish he would have taken it, but he wore himself out, and Brewster's chin was just too much.

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                                      • brickbat
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Apr 2004
                                        • 740

                                        #20
                                        I'm downloading the fight now so I haven't seen it, but sounds like Wlad's jaw has let him down again. A shame with his size and technical skills he coulda ruled at the top but a weak chin in the hw division is a hell of an albatross..

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                                        • baddog
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 107089

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ldinternet
                                          Shit is fixed.
                                          Granted, when you go to the scorecards in Vegas, anything can happen. . . but how is it fixed when the guy gets knocked out?

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                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by brickbat
                                            I'm downloading the fight now so I haven't seen it, but sounds like Wlad's jaw has let him down again. A shame with his size and technical skills he coulda ruled at the top but a weak chin in the hw division is a hell of an albatross..
                                            His skills? Please. He is trying to fight like an American instead of Eastern European and he looked like an idiot in the process.

                                            He probably tired himself out just as much trying to lean on Brewster as he did punching him.

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                                            • brickbat
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                                              • Apr 2004
                                              • 740

                                              #23
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                                              • brickbat
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                                                • Apr 2004
                                                • 740

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by baddog


                                                His skills? Please. He is trying to fight like an American instead of Eastern European and he looked like an idiot in the process.

                                                He probably tired himself out just as much trying to lean on Brewster as he did punching him.
                                                Okay, I have seen the fight now. He did do a few things that weren't in his 'European style' repertoire, namely holding, pushing, leaning and using more lateral movement (he seems to have pretty much stopped going straight back after punches). This will all be courtesy of his new trainer, Emmanuel Steward, who used to train Lewis to do all the same things.

                                                Jury is still out on what caused the early fatigue after the weird blood tests, but I can tell you it wasn't the leaning, that's to make the <b>other</b> guy tired.

                                                I don't think he has the chin, heart, meaness or guile to dominate in the hw division though. Time to cash in the chips and go home to Kiev.

                                                Vitali, on the other hand, is one to keep watching. <br><br>

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                                                • Mr.Fiction
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                                                  • Feb 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by brickbat

                                                  Time to cash in the chips and go home to Kiev.
                                                  I think he lives in LA now?
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                                                  • Vitasoy
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                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                    • 58202

                                                    #26
                                                    damn, I missed it...


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                                                    • andi_germany
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                                                      • Oct 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      His blood sugar level was 6 times as high as normal. It seems he is an unnoticed diabetic and he has to finish his career.
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                                                      • spamofon
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                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 2999

                                                        #28
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                                                        • baddog
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                          • 107089

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by brickbat



                                                          Jury is still out on what caused the early fatigue after the weird blood tests, but I can tell you it wasn't the leaning, that's to make the <b>other</b> guy tired.
                                                          I understand the purpose of leaning on the other guy, my point is that because he does not know how to do it, it could have contributed to his early fatigue.

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                                                          • brickbat
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                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                            • 740

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by baddog


                                                            I understand the purpose of leaning on the other guy, my point is that because he does not know how to do it, it could have contributed to his early fatigue.
                                                            I suppooooose that's possible, he certainly didn't look as good at holding and leaning as Lewis was (but had also had a lot less time to practice the techniques).

                                                            He looked worse at holding than leaning too, but then Brewster was having to expend a lot of energy when he fought against the clinches. Brewster was the smaller guy too though so *juggle imaginary weights*..

                                                            And to andy: his blood sugar level was 4X higher, not 6. There's a brief post-fight interview with Wladamir and Vitali <a href="http://www.boxingtalk.net/pages/kernitski24.htm">here</a> (first one to have taken place, as far as I know). <br><br>

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