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  • Oracle Porn
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    • Oct 2002
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    Sleazydream wannabe

    Sony (13:37) :
    Hello Webmaster if you have stocking/latex/pantyhose galleries and you are interested in buying gallery spots contact me. I run one of the largest stocking TGP around, www.stockings-world.com averaging 15,000 uniques/day.



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    • DR_PHIL
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      • Oct 2002
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      #2
      15k pantyhose..wild

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        • Oracle Porn
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          very


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            • Niki
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              • Jan 2001
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              #4
              hehe at least he has changed his bgcolor
              Ivo

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                • DreamCumTrue
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                  lol people are getting less and less creative every day in this biz

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                    • Rictor
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                      • Jan 2001
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                      #6
                      That's not a bad size for a niche TGP. You can make more from a 15k niche tgp than a 50k general TGP, that's for sure.

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                        • Kinder
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                          Sony (13:37) :
                          Hello Webmaster if you have stocking/latex/pantyhose galleries and you are interested in buying gallery spots contact me. I run one of the largest stocking TGP around, www.stockings-world.com averaging 15,000 uniques/day.
                          Judging by your simplistic logic then Pinkworld is a Hun wannabe because he display his gallery links the same as Hun does.

                          http://www.pinkworld.com/
                          http://www.thehun.com/

                          I can come up with much more examples, but you got the ideea.

                          I am just displaying my thumbs the way Sleazy does, what's the big deal with that ? Got no major similarities with his site.
                          I haven't stole his design, database, or anything else.

                          And Oracle Porn you're nothing but a worthless and clueless bigmouth sigwhore. I don't give a fuck on your 10,000++ post you're still a newbie, mind your own fucking bussines you piece of shit.
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                            • Pipecrew
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                              • Feb 2002
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by Kinder


                              I am just displaying my thumbs the way Sleazy does, what's the big deal with that ? Got no major similarities with his site.
                              I haven't stole his design, database, or anything else.
                              That's bullshit, Say it 10 times quickly! maybee someone will believe you.

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                                • Giorgio_Xo
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                                  #9
                                  I have a 15k a day site that makes $5000 a month. I wouldn't necessarily make fun of him. Niche converts.
                                  Make Levees, Not War

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                                    • polish_aristocrat
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                                      • Jul 2002
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                                      #10
                                      well, actually Oracle, don't you sell spots on oracleporn.com too ?
                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                        • Sony
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Pipecrew


                                          That's bullshit, Say it 10 times quickly! maybee someone will believe you.
                                          Care to elaborate?

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                                            • polish_aristocrat
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                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 40377
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo
                                              I have a 15k a day site that makes $5000 a month. I wouldn't necessarily make fun of him. Niche converts.
                                              great, must be something like foot niche though rather than a general site like teen niche
                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                • Oracle Porn
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                  well, actually Oracle, don't you sell spots on oracleporn.com too ?
                                                  i sale short spots


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                                                    • Oracle Porn
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                      general site like teen niche


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                                                        • Sony
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                                                          #15
                                                          More info about my site on Sextracker - Lingerie Category

                                                          For ad placements and gallery spots on
                                                          www.stockings-world.com contact me at

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                                                            • SleazyDream
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                                              Sony (13:37) :
                                                              Hello Webmaster if you have stocking/latex/pantyhose galleries and you are interested in buying gallery spots contact me. I run one of the largest stocking TGP around, www.stockings-world.com averaging 15,000 uniques/day.
                                                              lol


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                                                                • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Oracle Porn


                                                                  what?
                                                                  don't you think that a 15k foot niche tgp makes more than a 15k teen niche tgp ?
                                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                    • Oracle Porn
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                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

                                                                      what?
                                                                      don't you think that a 15k foot niche tgp makes more than a 15k teen niche tgp ?
                                                                      monkey
                                                                      teen is a niche.


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                                                                        • Pipecrew
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                                                                          • Feb 2002
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Sony


                                                                          Care to elaborate?
                                                                          Come on, you copied that site completely, Even his toplist and how he uses a bigger font on the top trades, right down to EVERY minor detail. Be original

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                                                                            • Niki
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Oracle Porn


                                                                              monkey
                                                                              teen is a niche.
                                                                              teen is mainstream

                                                                              hairy teen is niche

                                                                              and now go fuck your flash ligt pussy
                                                                              Ivo

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                                                                                • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Rictor
                                                                                  That's not a bad size for a niche TGP. You can make more from a 15k niche tgp than a 50k general TGP, that's for sure.
                                                                                  Yea but you can't make shit from a 50k tgp anyways :P
                                                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
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                                                                                    • Oracle Porn
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Niki


                                                                                      teen is mainstream

                                                                                      hairy teen is niche

                                                                                      and now go fuck your flash ligt pussy
                                                                                      idiots.


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                                                                                        • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Oracle Porn


                                                                                          monkey
                                                                                          teen is a niche.
                                                                                          lol, who is the monkey?
                                                                                          you didn't answer my previous question though....
                                                                                          sure, teen is a niche but a big niche
                                                                                          almost every surfer is into teens but only a small percent into feet niche, spanking niche, bondage, pregannt women etc....i thought it is pretty obvious that these small niches sell better than the teen niche...

                                                                                          you are a SE guru, right?

                                                                                          So make two sites, one getting hits for the keyword "teen babes" the second for "feet licking" and tell me what converts better
                                                                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                            • Oracle Porn
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                                                                                              lol, who is the monkey?
                                                                                              you didn't answer my previous question though....
                                                                                              sure, teen is a niche but a big niche
                                                                                              almost every surfer is into teens but only a small percent into feet niche, spanking niche, bondage, pregannt women etc....i thought it is pretty obvious that these small niches sell better than the teen niche...

                                                                                              you are a SE guru, right?

                                                                                              So make two sites, one getting hits for the keyword "teen babes" the second for "feet licking" and tell me what converts better
                                                                                              different niches convert differently yes.
                                                                                              but teen is a niche none the less.

                                                                                              ill also get a lot les traffic to smaller niches than bigger niches.

                                                                                              and to them monkey who say hairy teen is a niche...better shut your fucking trap before you speak dumbass.... hairy teens is a SUB niche. Don't open your mouth because a stupid thing will get out of it before you know it.


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                                                                                                • psyko514
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  do people not realize that the design is exactly the same?
                                                                                                  are you all blind (Except for OP and Pipecrew)??

                                                                                                  and if he get's 15K visitors a day, how can he claim to have 1 million a month??

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                                                                                                    • polish_aristocrat
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Oracle Porn


                                                                                                      different niches convert differently yes.
                                                                                                      but teen is a niche none the less.

                                                                                                      ill also get a lot les traffic to smaller niches than bigger niches.
                                                                                                      true, smaller niches get less traffic, but if someone has a "small-niche" 15k tgp , than he probably makes more that he would make with a 15 teen niche tgp

                                                                                                      ok, EOT, pizza arrived
                                                                                                      I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                        • Axeman
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by DR_PHIL
                                                                                                          15k pantyhose..wild
                                                                                                          probably some potent traffic
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                                                                                                            • Thong Sniper
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                                                                                                              I will say this...

                                                                                                              thong niches dont convert!
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                                                                                                                • Oracle Porn
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Thong Sniper
                                                                                                                  I will say this...

                                                                                                                  thong niches dont convert!
                                                                                                                  no, you don't know how to convert them.


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                                                                                                                    • Thong Sniper
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Oracle Porn


                                                                                                                      no, you don't know how to convert them.
                                                                                                                      yeah. im actually pretty clueless on converting niches. im going to go general and work my way up to niches. it seems easier to learn that way.
                                                                                                                      <vb>signature</vb>

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                                                                                                                        • Sony
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by psyko514

                                                                                                                          and if he get's 15K visitors a day, how can he claim to have 1 million a month??
                                                                                                                          That's 1 million non-unique visitors. We all lie a little our surfers, aren't we ?

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                                                                                                                            • Sony
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Pipecrew


                                                                                                                              Come on, you copied that site completely, Even his toplist and how he uses a bigger font on the top trades, right down to EVERY minor detail. Be original
                                                                                                                              Common dude I can show you zillions of toplists which look the same. I olso can show you zillions of TGP's which display their thumbs/links in similar manners.

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                                                                                                                                • Oracle Porn
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sony


                                                                                                                                  Common dude I can show you zillions of toplists which look the same. I olso can show you zillions of TGP's which display their thumbs/links in similar manners.
                                                                                                                                  suck a dick spammer.


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                                                                                                                                    • BigFrog
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Oracle Porn



                                                                                                                                      and to them monkey who say hairy teen is a niche...better shut your fucking trap before you speak dumbass.... hairy teens is a SUB niche. Don't open your mouth because a stupid thing will get out of it before you know it.

                                                                                                                                      u are so full of shit.

                                                                                                                                      niche, subniche....shut the fuck up already.

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                                                                                                                                        • Oracle Porn
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BigFrog



                                                                                                                                          u are so full of shit.

                                                                                                                                          niche, subniche....shut the fuck up already.


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                                                                                                                                            • MicDoohan
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              you're such a fucking tryhard oracle porn



                                                                                                                                              why dont you step boy

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                                                                                                                                                • Sony
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Oracle Porn


                                                                                                                                                  suck a dick spammer.
                                                                                                                                                  Your sig is too big.

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                                                                                                                                                    • psyko514
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sony


                                                                                                                                                      Common dude I can show you zillions of toplists which look the same. I olso can show you zillions of TGP's which display their thumbs/links in similar manners.
                                                                                                                                                      dude. your site looks exactly the same. just fucking admit it. you copied sleazy's site.

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                                                                                                                                                        • Sony
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                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by psyko514


                                                                                                                                                          dude. your site looks exactly the same. just fucking admit it. you copied sleazy's site.
                                                                                                                                                          Yes, already said that I display my thumbs same ways Sleazy does no doubts. I don't consider this a copyright infringement. THey are just thumbs with date and descriptions.

                                                                                                                                                          There are olso differences between our sites too - graphics ,colors, bottom sites list, I have welcome text, good bye text, banners displaying and I list 8 galleries/day.

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                                                                                                                                                            • BradM
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Sony


                                                                                                                                                              Yes, already said that I display my thumbs same ways Sleazy does no doubts. I don't consider this a copyright infringement. THey are just thumbs with date and descriptions.

                                                                                                                                                              There are olso differences between our sites too - graphics ,colors, bottom sites list, I have welcome text, good bye text, banners displaying and I list 8 galleries/day.
                                                                                                                                                              So you copied it and made like 3 changes.
                                                                                                                                                              Cool

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                                                                                                                                                                • Strife
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Oracle Porn


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                                                                                                                                                                    • Sony
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by BradM


                                                                                                                                                                      So you copied it and made like 3 changes.
                                                                                                                                                                      Cool
                                                                                                                                                                      no point to reply you

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Plan9
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by BradM


                                                                                                                                                                          So you copied it and made like 3 changes.
                                                                                                                                                                          Cool
                                                                                                                                                                          Thats more than most peoplle both making. a huge percentage of the 88x88 and 90x120 thumb TGPs out there could be summed up with the same statement. Most just take the same general layout and change a couple things and call it a brand new TGP.
                                                                                                                                                                          Dont see how this one is any better or worse than any of those offended, and why its getting all the attention here?

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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Sony


                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, already said that I display my thumbs same ways Sleazy does no doubts. I don't consider this a copyright infringement. THey are just thumbs with date and descriptions.

                                                                                                                                                                              There are olso differences between our sites too - graphics ,colors, bottom sites list, I have welcome text, good bye text, banners displaying and I list 8 galleries/day.
                                                                                                                                                                              First instance of copying:

                                                                                                                                                                              <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sw1.jpg> <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sd1.jpg>

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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sony


                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes, already said that I display my thumbs same ways Sleazy does no doubts. I don't consider this a copyright infringement. THey are just thumbs with date and descriptions.

                                                                                                                                                                                  There are olso differences between our sites too - graphics ,colors, bottom sites list, I have welcome text, good bye text, banners displaying and I list 8 galleries/day.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Second instance of copying:

                                                                                                                                                                                  <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sw2.jpg> <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sd2.jpg>

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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Sony


                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes, already said that I display my thumbs same ways Sleazy does no doubts. I don't consider this a copyright infringement. THey are just thumbs with date and descriptions.

                                                                                                                                                                                      There are olso differences between our sites too - graphics ,colors, bottom sites list, I have welcome text, good bye text, banners displaying and I list 8 galleries/day.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Third instance of copying:

                                                                                                                                                                                      <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sw3.jpg> <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sd3.jpg>

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Sony
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by psyko514


                                                                                                                                                                                          First instance of copying:

                                                                                                                                                                                          <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sw1.jpg> <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sd1.jpg>
                                                                                                                                                                                          wow, a table with links. Fuck off!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Sony
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by psyko514


                                                                                                                                                                                              Third instance of copying:

                                                                                                                                                                                              <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sw3.jpg> <img src=http://www.kwikcash.net/copy/sd3.jpg>
                                                                                                                                                                                              now please count the differences too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sony


                                                                                                                                                                                                  wow, a table with links. Fuck off!
                                                                                                                                                                                                  The layout and is exactly
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Plan9


                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thats more than most peoplle both making. a huge percentage of the 88x88 and 90x120 thumb TGPs out there could be summed up with the same statement. Most just take the same general layout and change a couple things and call it a brand new TGP.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Dont see how this one is any better or worse than any of those offended, and why its getting all the attention here?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      That's what I'm trying to point out, thx.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      And btw psyko514 are you Sleazy's lawyer or just a random ass kisser?

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