taboo_dude

John,

You and Nathan shouldn't be talking about being professional and mature. If you are so professional than why are we paying for an advertising slot that you declined to advertise on since one of our employees was a moderator there. This woman was going through some tough times and we thought we would go ahead and help her due to your childish act. So don't go around talking about being mature ;) Also I congratulated you on NATS back in the summer, you saw it but declined to accept it. Real professionals you and Nathan are.

Now back to this subject of NATS being shave proof and don't sit there and try to say you guys haven't ever said that or implied it. You have done this for the past 6 months. In the beginning only a handful confronted you on it. Now that has been determined that programs can shave when using nats, you are backing off on that statement and saying it is almost impossible and if you do we will catch you.

That's BULLSHIT I could have something made in one day that would clearly allow NATS merchants the ability to shave. I will never do this because it is something I firmly stand against. I have done so since 1998 and will continue to do so as long as I am alive. I do not go around though telling people you CANNOT shave using my solutions. You can shave with or without my solutions and you will always be able to do so. If I catch you, you'll be using someone else I can guarantee you that.

What you have done is left a false sense of security with everyone using NATS. Telling them that it is shaveproof and they could promote their program that way. Most do, here is a few old posts I had bookmarked. I have the urls if anyone needs them.

Thread 1.

Lensman: quote:Originally posted by papichulo
Which one has a RAZOR feature?

No shave possible with NATS, can't speak for the rest.

Thread 2.

angeleyes: It's not possible to shave with NATS and the owners, no matter how much money offered will not build in that feature either. I have first hand knowledge of this.

These posts was months ago as I haven't been on GFY for about 4 or 5 months now. I actually came here because of an error I got from a program using NATS,


So I come over to gfy for the first time in a VERY VERY long time and once I complete this post I will not come back probably for another several months. We don't have to play the petty little games and refuse to do so. We have focused on making money and giving our customers what they need in order to run a successful affiliate program, which is why I am in business in the first place.

Before I go, here is another post others may be interested in (it was on another board so I can't post the url):

angeleyes: It's not possible to shave with NATS and the owners, no matter how much money offered will not build in that feature either. I have first hand knowledge of this.
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makefuckingmoney: I believe the NATS guy admitted it was possible to shave them.

So to say its not shaveable is misleading

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fthylmann: Where did I admit its possible to shave? You pointed out multiple ways you think its possible to "shave" by handling the postback, and I told you why every single one of them is not an effective way to do it out of various reasons.

Fabian Thylmann
Too Much Media LLC
NATS - Next-generation Administration & Tracking Software

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makefuckingmoney: my point is that it IS shaveable..while it doesnt have built in shave functions, any programmer could filter the postback VERY easily.

and thats a fact jack!
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fthylmann: Do you even listen?

Filtering the postback _DOES NOT HELP_ It would just DELAY us getting the data. We would get the sale info and import it between 15 minutes and 24 hours later, depending on the biller and the time of day.

Blocking postback data does NOT HELP.

I have enough of this constant back and forth, if you do not read what I write, so be it. There is no way to shave in NATS and noone has given us any explanation or description of how he would add shaving externally which WORKS. Now THAT is a fact. If anyone can think of a way to do shaving, feel free to suggest it, and I will tell you why it does not work, just like I told MFM 3 times now (even if he does not listen).

I have said multiple times, and I will say so again, we have MANY systems in place in NATS to prevent shaving. And we will be adding new ones when we ourself (or others) figure out ways to circumvent any. We have not yet found any ways to do so.

Enough about this...


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Too Much Media LLC
NATS - Next-generation Administration & Tracking Software

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That about sums up what you have been telling the adult community for the past six months. Don't sit there and try to say you haven't. Your insulting some of the posters intelligence.


Since I have spent an hour this morning reading this thread, digging up old threads and showing some of the facts. For those of you who want an alternative to the HIGH PRICED nats program that your currently using, we will sell you our software for a 1.00. We'll call it the "$1.00 you can shave with nats EASILY sympathy sale."

You must be currently using NATS and truly interested in switching. People looking to just peek at or copy our code will be dealt with. For those that do switch, it will be kept private. We will not rub it in nats noses by using your brand name. I will have enough satisfaction in knowing I am taking away money they would otherwise be earning

I had actually planned on doing this months ago but declined not to because of it being so childish. Since I have spent the time this morning making the post I might as well make it a worthwhile one.

I'll probably go ahead and make sure the thread is bumped up tomorrow morning. Other than that, you can contact me via ICQ or email. It will be another couple of months before coming back here.

You can view a demo of our newest release at: http://taboorevenue.com/page/demo

It has cascading billing, content management,multiple site management and is a solid solution used by thousands worldwide. Definitely worth a 1.00 For others considering using NATS, we will offer you a sale (for a limited number of copies) as well. We'll maybe charge you 2.00 You'll need to show use where you have been in contact with them regarding their solution. Other than that, that's it

For some that might not have heard of us, we have been providing quality affiliate tracking solutions since 1997. AffiliateZone.com was our first website: http://web.archive.org/web/199812030...liatezone.com/

We now provide tracking solutions to various Fortune 500 companies and scaled back on promoting some of our adult solutions. So when I saw I could have something made in a days time that would enable someone to shave EASILY using nats. It's because I know what I am talking about ;)

John, Nathan, be careful as to who you try to piss on in the future, they may very well piss on you instead.

Craig Belcher
craig at tabootracking dot com

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