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Old 12-19-2004, 01:33 AM  
European Lee
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The only claims we've made is that NATS has no shave feature
Which was a point you didnt have to make because nowhere in this thread was it mentioned that you DO have a shave feature.

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I never imagined in my life we'd be met with so much definace for trying to bring a little bit of integrity to the business.
Again, i dont see anywhere in this thread where you have been met with defiance, i think everyone agrees there is no shave feature built into NATs but you yourself have even agreed it is still possible for an affiliate program to shave using your application.

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Lee is annoying, he choose to single us out, most likely for the attention.
Of course because the fact that your application is the latest fad in the industry has nothing to do with it. I used one of the more popular programs to illustrate my point, if this thread had been started 3 months ago, i would have used MPA3 in the thread title.

The difference is, everyone seems to be under the impression you CANT be shaved by an affiliate program using NATs.. As you yourself have agreed in this very thread, that isnt the case.

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But when he starts a thread making false claims (i.e. he uses NATS)
So you are pissed that i said we were using NATs? Where did i say that? I made a 'comment' i never said we actually did use NATs.

Thats the problem with many people on GFY, they focus on the stuff that really doesnt matter and bring their emotions into the discussion when there shouldnt be any emotion involved at all. This is business, end of story.

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As far as the modifying of things, you can do exactly the same thing with a CCBill only program (as serveral people have stated in this thread). People for years have said "you're safe with us since we use ccbill for our affiliate program". No one ever jumped on them for it.
Perhaps because most webmasters arent under the impression it is IMPOSSIBLE to shave with CCBill, as they seem to be with NATs, hell ive seen several threads in the last 2 months where affiliate programs were recommonded because they are 'incapable of shaving' because 'they use NATs'.

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NATS is a very powerful, very flexible software that is growing and taking hold at an unbelievable rate. It is doing so for the most part because it is the best option out there for an affiliate program looking for a turnkey package and it has a real company behind it that offers real service and support. You can ALWAYS reach us by phone during business hours. That may sound silly but it's a rarity in the adult business.
Agreed.. phone support is a rare thing.. shaving however.. is not.

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NATS taking hold so quickly has some people in the business scared. With that comes hate and drama threads like we have here.
I see no drama.

I see facts being agreed upon and nothing more.

I have nothing to gain from letting webmasters know they can in fact be shaved by an affiliate program that uses NATs.

Regards,

Lee

Last edited by European Lee; 12-19-2004 at 01:34 AM..
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