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This didn't help to Nazi in Russia, and this didn't help the USA in Vietnam. The people there are fighting not just for oil of for some one's injured father - they are fighting for THEIR COUNTRY! It's so stupid to expect they stop shooting invaders and shake their hands... Just put yourself on their place.Originally posted by Digipimp
Come on now what you said is just some of the dumbest shit ever. These people killing soldiers are not just defending their country against occupants. I was against the war in Iraq to start with but if they start putting numbers on us we can't just up and leave we have to start putting it to them hard and double up our force and fuck these people up that are fighting us but even that probably won't solve it.Obey the CowgodComment
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And still another perspective. There are more homicides in the US than combat fatalities.Originally posted by titmowse
to put this in another perspective: as of last official count, there have been 624 US soldiers killed in Iraq since March, 2003. that averages out to 44.57 per month.
In Los Angeles, [California's] most populous city, crime was up 1.8 percent overall and there were 653 homicides, a jump of 11.1 percent.
The number of homicides in New York City dropped to 580 for the year 2002, the lowest figure in 39 years.
Chicago, the country's third-largest city, recorded about 645 homicides for 2002.
California's murder rates up in 2002"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
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Sad ... but true. That's what happens when the commander of the ship is a moron...Originally posted by MaskedMan
unfortunately, I don't think there is any one right way to handle this situation as it is. Can't leave, can't stay.... can't kill, can't save...
When you throw out the burnt food and jump into the oven and lock the door.... you're goose is cooked.
Only way is to shift to the UN, and slowly pull out over the year. Let them fight against themselves afterwards...
I know Bush wants to "build" a western style democracy , but is this really important to the american population???I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Hey tard when are you going to wake up and realize the people fighting our troops right now are not fighting for their country? Now it's possible if things further deteriorate that we will end up fighting the average Iraqi but right now the average Iraqi is just staying home and keeping his mouth shut. The people fighting us our radical islamists at this point and a lot of them weren't even there until we showed up. However if it gets worse we could end up fighting all of them but it's not happening yet even in your dreamt up world.Originally posted by cyberxxx
This didn't help to Nazi in Russia, and this didn't help the USA in Vietnam. The people there are fighting not just for oil of for some one's injured father - they are fighting for THEIR COUNTRY! It's so stupid to expect they stop shooting invaders and shake their hands... Just put yourself on their place.Comment
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They aren't fighing for their country... Where do you get these thoughts. The old regime is gone and is not coming back. They are fighting to replace the regime. Which is quite different then fighting for their country. Nazi wanted to pillage and kill people. The situation is quite different in Iraq the coaliton has no interest in pillaging and purging a race.Originally posted by cyberxxx
This didn't help to Nazi in Russia, and this didn't help the USA in Vietnam. The people there are fighting not just for oil of for some one's injured father - they are fighting for THEIR COUNTRY! It's so stupid to expect they stop shooting invaders and shake their hands... Just put yourself on their place.IcooCash - DVD Content for your TGP
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It's safer to be a US soldier in Iraq than it is to be a civilian in California.
The murder rate in California is just over 6 people per day. Less soldiers, on average, die in Iraq each day.
Where's the big uprise to pull of out California? Kinda puts it in to perspective..Comment
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Wow that's dumb on so many levels I don't even know where to start.Originally posted by WarChild
It's safer to be a US soldier in Iraq than it is to be a civilian in California.
The murder rate in California is just over 6 people per day. Less soldiers, on average, die in Iraq each day.
Kinda puts it in to perspective.Comment
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I'd say he's a dead man walking now.Originally posted by herbal logic
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Just try to understand one simple thing: the USA are invaders! They have invaded another country for no reason (actually there are no reason for any invasion). Just open your eyes, this is so easy to see...Originally posted by Digipimp
Hey tard when are you going to wake up and realize the people fighting our troops right now are not fighting for their country? Now it's possible if things further deteriorate that we will end up fighting the average Iraqi but right now the average Iraqi is just staying home and keeping his mouth shut. The people fighting us our radical islamists at this point and a lot of them weren't even there until we showed up. However if it gets worse we could end up fighting all of them but it's not happening yet even in your dreamt up world.Obey the CowgodComment
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Yes, Bush is a mororn because he was tired of seeing inaction from the U.N. how many chances do you get? The U.N didn't want anything to do with Iraq and now we want to force them into it? How is that a good solution. Who is the moron now? The American population doesn't actually care about the average Iraqi as long as its government isn't hell bent on destroying life especially ours and our allys. And if making Iraq a westernized democacy helps make the middle east more peaceful then its worth every cent and every life.Originally posted by directfiesta
Sad ... but true. That's what happens when the commander of the ship is a moron...
Only way is to shift to the UN, and slowly pull out over the year. Let them fight against themselves afterwards...
I know Bush wants to "build" a western style democracy , but is this really important to the american population???
When do will the liberals stop blasting and start helping. You don't like the way things are done. Then provide an alternative and no sitting on your hands because it is easier to ignore the problem then deal with it is not a viable alternative.IcooCash - DVD Content for your TGP
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How are facts dumb? It's the truth. Please elaborate.Originally posted by Digipimp
Wow that's dumb on so many levels I don't even know where to start..Comment
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What are you high on? No reason for any invasion. Of coursse there is a reason for everything. You just may not agree with the reasons but that doesn't neccessarly mean the reason wasn't warranted. Or should we call you god? How come every issue is so easy for you liberals bet yet you never have any solutions?Originally posted by cyberxxx
Just try to understand one simple thing: the USA are invaders! They have invaded another country for no reason (actually there are no reason for any invasion). Just open your eyes, this is so easy to see...IcooCash - DVD Content for your TGP
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Can't win? Haven't they already won?Originally posted by Nydahl
doesn't matter if 130 or 13 - you shouldn't stick your US noses in some1 else biz
I don't fucking care about the Iraq war or Bush politics but true is - you can't win in Iraq guys.Go home and safe your assesComment
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If everyone in LA rolled around with close air support a fully auto machine gun, pistol, kevlar and in and armored hummer there might be less murders dumbass. So no California is not more dangerous than being a soldier in Iraq. That's so stupid I shouldn't have even attempted to explain it.Originally posted by WarChild
How are facts dumb? It's the truth. Please elaborate.Comment
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Fair enough.Originally posted by Digipimp
If everyone in LA rolled around with close air support a fully auto machine gun, pistol, kevlar and in and armored hummer there might be less murders dumbass. So no California is not more dangerous than being a soldier in Iraq. That's so stupid I shouldn't have even attempted to explain it.
BUT .. MORE AMERICANS DIE EACH DAY IN CALIFORNIA THAN IN IRAQ.
Doesn't matter about ifs, or air support or any other bullshit. That's the truth.
You want to save American lives? Go regulate California..Comment
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Why dont they just hand control over to some new iraqi dictator who's more friendly, give him a bunch of guns and let him get the place under control old school style.Comment
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These aren't even the same issues that you're arguing. By far more people are killed in Iraq everday compared to Cali. In Iraq the US Soldiers are approximately 1 to 2 percent of the population and heavliy armed and they are still dying. Your issues aren't even the same.Originally posted by WarChild
Fair enough.
BUT .. MORE AMERICANS DIE EACH DAY IN CALIFORNIA THAN IN IRAQ.
Doesn't matter about ifs, or air support or any other bullshit. That's the truth.
You want to save American lives? Go regulate California.Comment
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As I said earlier: the USA are invaders! This short phrase explains everything...Originally posted by piker
What are you high on? No reason for any invasion. Of coursse there is a reason for everything. You just may not agree with the reasons but that doesn't neccessarly mean the reason wasn't warranted. Or should we call you god? How come every issue is so easy for you liberals bet yet you never have any solutions?Obey the CowgodComment
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Listen..... before the war Iraq had a 50% unemployment rate, during 60%, now most estimates are less than 10% in the major cities. Its a FACT that it is a small majority of Iraqi's with guns to their heads follwing Muqtada al-Sadr. The fact these idiots are stirring shit before the transfer of power is beyond me. The USA will be in Iraq for the next several years. Theres alot of good in Iraq happening.
You shouldn't be mad at Bush. At least we have someone willing to deal directly with these issues head on. Its the FBI/CIA you should be mad up for fucking this all up in the first place.
War isn't pretty... 13 or so UN resolutions were passsed and never enforced against Iraq so you are absolutely out of your mind if you think the USA had no right to go into Iraq.Comment
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Great ... But I said more AMERICAN's.. I didn't say shit about Iraqis.Originally posted by Digipimp
These aren't even the same issues that you're arguing. By far more people are killed in Iraq everday compared to Cali. In Iraq the US Soldiers are approximately 1 to 2 percent of the population and heavliy armed and they are still dying. Your issues aren't even the same.
The Iraq people, like most Arabs are little better than cavemen. Morons don't even understand when people are trying to help them.
I completely agree with you guys .. Pull out of Iraq now. Give them all their weapons back, and let them kill each other and their neighboring arab buddies too. The world would no doubt be better off.
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What exactly did Iraq have that wasn't listed in their arms report remitted to the UN...Originally posted by piker
Yes, Bush is a mororn because he was tired of seeing inaction from the U.N. how many chances do you get? The U.N didn't want anything to do with Iraq and now we want to force them into it? How is that a good solution. Who is the moron now? The American population doesn't actually care about the average Iraqi as long as its government isn't hell bent on destroying life especially ours and our allys. And if making Iraq a westernized democacy helps make the middle east more peaceful then its worth every cent and every life.
When do will the liberals stop blasting and start helping. You don't like the way things are done. Then provide an alternative and no sitting on your hands because it is easier to ignore the problem then deal with it is not a viable alternative.
Oh yes, they had stockpiles of WMD ....
And they attacked the US on 9/11 disguised as Saudis...
No point explaining, you take bits ands parts of the news fed to you and make up your own justification for an invasion....
Very simple: George had balls ache for Iraq because of Daddy... On top, a bit of oil would keep the SUV runnings... Now, it is american blood of innocent soldiers running in those gas lines....
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Iraq was (and is) a thorn in our side. This short phrase explains everything.Originally posted by cyberxxx
As I said earlier: the USA are invaders! This short phrase explains everything..."Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
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I knew I was stupid to try and discuss this with you. You're way beyond help.Originally posted by WarChild
Great ... But I said more AMERICAN's.. I didn't say shit about Iraqis.
The Iraq people, like most Arabs are little better than cavemen. Morons don't even understand when people are trying to help them.
I completely agree with you guys .. Pull out of Iraq now. Give them all their weapons back, and let them kill each other and their neighboring arab buddies too. The world would no doubt be better off.
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Almost a good point. Except the US isn't stealing, or discounting Iraqi oil. It's selling it to be used in the rebuilding of Iraq. The US is not stealing the Iraqi Oil.Originally posted by directfiesta
Very simple: George had balls ache for Iraq because of Daddy... On top, a bit of oil would keep the SUV runnings... Now, it is american blood of innocent soldiers running in those gas lines....
The production capabilities of the Iraqi oil fields is very, very low. Be much better to take over Saudi Arabia, if you just wanted to steal oil. Come on, just try using your brain for a short while..Comment
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How many for Israel???Originally posted by herbal logic
War isn't pretty... 13 or so UN resolutions were passsed and never enforced against Iraq so you are absolutely out of your mind if you think the USA had no right to go into Iraq.I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Yeah, you can pretty much keep your little view of world Politics. You aren't going to convince me of anything either.Originally posted by Digipimp
I knew I was stupid to try and discuss this with you. You're way beyond help..Comment
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There are 35 million people in California.Originally posted by WarChild
It's safer to be a US soldier in Iraq than it is to be a civilian in California.
The murder rate in California is just over 6 people per day. Less soldiers, on average, die in Iraq each day.
Where's the big uprise to pull of out California? Kinda puts it in to perspective.
There are 100-200K US soldiers in Iraq.
6 of one group is a radically different ratio vs. 6 of the other group.Comment
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Don't worry, it is ON THE LIST ... Just harder to convince the rest of the world of the legitimacy of such an invasion....Originally posted by WarChild
Come on, just try using your brain for a short while.
PS: The US tought they would have a picnic in Iraq, and that the oil would just be there to be pumped out ( just as in Iran with the Sghah) ... But it wasn't so...
Instead of flowers, bullets
Instead of kisses, burning corpses
And this after " Saddam" has been captured... and ALL OVER the country...I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Very good point...Originally posted by CamChicks
There are 35 million people in California.
There are 100-200K US soldiers in Iraq.
6 of one group is a radically different ratio vs. 6 of the other group.I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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I realize that. But when you're talking about dead human beings, does the ratio really matter?Originally posted by CamChicks
There are 35 million people in California.
There are 100-200K US soldiers in Iraq.
6 of one group is a radically different ratio vs. 6 of the other group.
6 Dead is worse than 4, no matter how large the pool of living is.
Get it?.Comment
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where did 130 come from? i read 12....Comment
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That's want the US wants... wake up!Originally posted by tbabe
Why dont they just hand control over to some new iraqi dictator who's more friendly, give him a bunch of guns and let him get the place under control old school style.
Who do you think is Chaladi????
The US just didn't expect that the religious fanatics ( controlled under Saddam: he wasn''t an idiot...) would take so much power in so little time...
The US had and have no plan... How could bush have a plan... He can't even figure out what he is going to do or say the next day....Last edited by directfiesta; 04-06-2004, 03:03 PM.I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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With such an indepth and complete understanding of the workings of the American Goverment, surely somehahahaha has recruited you for intelligence work somewhere, right?Originally posted by directfiesta
PS: The US tought they would have a picnic in Iraq, and that the oil would just be there to be pumped out ( just as in Iran with the Sghah) ... But it wasn't so...
Or are your insights, and baseless accusations ONLY appreciated on the internet?
Let's see some sources. Who in the US goverment thought they were just going to steal all of Iraq's oil. With the world watching, no less. Surely you have some evidence for this, right?.Comment
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right but now they are talking about delaying handover of powerOriginally posted by directfiesta
That's want the US wants... wake up!
Who do you think is Chaladi????
The US just didn't expect that the religious fanatics ( controlled under Saddam: he wasn''t an idiot...) would take so much power in so little time...
The US had and have no plan... How could bush have a plan... He can't even figure out what he is going to do or say the next day....
Sadam is gone, give power to any iraqi and let them clean up the messComment
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intelligence work,Originally posted by WarChild
With such an indepth and complete understanding of the workings of the American Goverment, surely somehahahaha has recruited you for intelligence work somewhere, right?
Or are your insights, and baseless accusations ONLY appreciated on the internet?
Let's see some sources. Who in the US goverment thought they were just going to steal all of Iraq's oil. With the world watching, no less. Surely you have some evidence for this, right? isn't this the reasone they're in this mess
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Hitler???Originally posted by NetRodent
Iraq was (and is) a thorn in our side. This short phrase explains everything.Obey the CowgodComment
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hahahahaha Bush...dont be dick to people in the U.S. we are just as horrified at the loss of lifeOriginally posted by Nydahl
doesn't matter if 130 or 13 - you shouldn't stick your US noses in some1 else biz
I don't fucking care about the Iraq war or Bush politics but true is - you can't win in Iraq guys.Go home and safe your assesComment
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You claimed it is "safer" to be a US soldier in Iraq than a civilian in California,Originally posted by WarChild
I realize that. But when you're talking about dead human beings, does the ratio really matter?
6 Dead is worse than 4, no matter how large the pool of living is.
Get it?
but when deaths vs population is reduced to odds of being murdered
that statement is rather dramatically false. Get it?Comment
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"as long as we have cheap oil for our SUVs we are all for it."Comment
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Good jokeOriginally posted by WarChild
the US isn't stealing, or discounting Iraqi oil. It's selling it to be used in the rebuilding of Iraq. The US is not stealing the Iraqi Oil.
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Absolutely. That is what Clinton did with Somolia...Originally posted by tbabe
right but now they are talking about delaying handover of power
Sadam is gone, give power to any iraqi and let them clean up the mess
Anyhahahaha here has a problem with Somalia??? The warlords are still probably killing weach other, but so what???I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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its getting worse daily. when are they supposed to pull out?Comment
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we do not have cheap oil.Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
"as long as we have cheap oil for our SUVs we are all for it."
i just filled up at 2.59 a galloon.
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Fiesta... how is it a half baked frog in Canada thinks he knows our history and plans for Iraq among other things, so well when he can't even manage to help liberate K-Bec from those awful Canucks?
Is it because the welfare goes WITH the secession or just yellow? Clue... playing with GI Joe dolls does not the general make.
Now for allll the good little FAT repubs spouting their normal BS, better break out that treadmill fast! You're going to get to travel the World and see/do amazing things very very very soon! Like how to dig a hole in desert hardpan with your bare hands in under 10 secs to hide your sorry tail end.
When you go, I'll be the one flipping you off on the pier. I'm sick to death of all your petty little squabbling like 10 yr olds when you should be showing some respect for the MEN that are losing their lives in this mess. Don't hand me that its democracy in action bull either. This isn't ANY sort of discussion. Calling you childish is being kind.
Its a bunch of teens with no practical World experience from all over the World spewing nothing but garbage at one another.
Whether we wanted to BE there isn't the question now. The question is how do we do the job, do it well and get our guys back on those hunks of metal to float 'em all back over here.
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Excuse me....Originally posted by Vic Lagina
If it comes from CNN, then I'll believe it.
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Iraq is no where near second in oil. Russia is second in proven reserves.Originally posted by KRL
Iraq is our biz.
Saddam defaulted on over $100 Billion in loans from the US and its allies.
Iraq controls the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world. We're the largest buyer of oil.
Iraq is strategically located in the middle east, a region where Islamic extremists and terrorists operate out of. They have clearly stated their mission is to destroy Israel and harm the USA anyway they can. We have a right to defend ourselves anyway we can.
So we're not going anywhere. Deal with it and accept the fact the US is the only country capable of being the world's Police force.
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