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  • SteveLightspeed
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 7940

    #1

    The New Ibill

    .... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

    Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

    me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

    Garrett Bender: "No."


    Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

    When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

    Steve Lightspeed
    Abra-cadabra!
  • JFK
    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
    • Jan 2002
    • 67369

    #2
    Originally posted by Lightspeed
    .... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

    Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

    me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

    Garrett Bender: "No."


    Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

    When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

    Steve Lightspeed

    Sorry to hear that Steve............

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    • Webasic
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2004
      • 1889

      #3
      you have to admit...they are good at buttfucking though

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      • Corleone
        C.R.E.A.M
        • Apr 2003
        • 15262

        #4
        that sucks

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        • NaughtyJenn
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2003
          • 7355

          #5
          that takes balls walking up to someone u owe money to and pitch them an idea..

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          • jimmyf
            OU812
            • Feb 2001
            • 12651

            #6
            Originally posted by Lightspeed
            .... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

            Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

            me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

            Garrett Bender: "No."


            Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

            When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

            Steve Lightspeed
            Why did you even meet with them. I'd gave' em a from across the room.
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            • Huggles
              GFY'S #1 retard
              • Feb 2003
              • 12549

              #7
              Originally posted by Lightspeed
              .... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

              Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

              me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

              Garrett Bender: "No."


              Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

              When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

              Steve Lightspeed


              Hahahaha.... fuuuuck


              I got fucked on Website Billing back in the day...
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              • tbabe
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2003
                • 2494

                #8
                thats from the web900 fucking a while back?

                Still one of the best programs on the net.


                According to their banner, you can get rich.

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                • waterboy
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 18

                  #9
                  Waaaaaa Waaaaaa Waaaaaaa
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                  • Hank_MrSkin
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 3987

                    #10
                    This thread cracks me up...Tooo funny
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                    • SteveLightspeed
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2001
                      • 7940

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tbabe
                      thats from the web900 fucking a while back?
                      Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

                      "But then we'd have to pay everyone."

                      oh no, not that!

                      Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention
                      Abra-cadabra!

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                      • tbabe
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2494

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lightspeed


                        Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

                        "But then we'd have to pay everyone."

                        oh no, not that!

                        Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention
                        LOL

                        If i give one to you, i have to give one to everyone.

                        There was a great chip commercial few years ago in canada with that line.

                        Still one of the best programs on the net.


                        According to their banner, you can get rich.

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                        • Trax
                          [----------------------]
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 14486

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lightspeed


                          Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

                          "But then we'd have to pay everyone."

                          oh no, not that!

                          Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention


                          now that arguement convinced me

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                          • TheDoc
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 13827

                            #14
                            Fuck'em, exactly why you will never see them on my join pages.
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                            • JFK
                              FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 67369

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lightspeed


                              Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

                              "But then we'd have to pay everyone."

                              oh no, not that!

                              Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention
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                              • tony299
                                lurker
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 57021

                                #16
                                Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue

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                                • SteveLightspeed
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 7940

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                  Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue

                                  So you're the one! We found him! Here's the guy that Ibill has done right by!

                                  Good luck, I hope for you that you are never in my spot with them.


                                  Steve Lightspeed
                                  Abra-cadabra!

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                                  • msg
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 293

                                    #18
                                    no problems here either.. sorry about your luck.

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                                    • turbomax
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2004
                                      • 394

                                      #19
                                      fuckin sucks I just submitted to them also

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                                      • magicmike
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2003
                                        • 2384

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Lightspeed



                                        So you're the one! We found him! Here's the guy that Ibill has done right by!


                                        What a find.

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                                        • KRL
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 31429

                                          #21


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                                          • Hanging Judge
                                            Registered User
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 68

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by tony404
                                            Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue
                                            Too funny! I love good sarcasm....
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                                            • High Quality
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2002
                                              • 5741

                                              #23
                                              Ibill sucks, always have.

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                                              • Hanging Judge
                                                Registered User
                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 68

                                                #24
                                                As an aside....

                                                HUGE Thanks Steve for the Trampoline and hospitality...you guys always rock Phoenix, but really out did yourself this year....
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                                                • Hank_MrSkin
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 3987

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                  .... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

                                                  Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

                                                  me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

                                                  Garrett Bender: "No."


                                                  Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

                                                  When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

                                                  Steve Lightspeed
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                                                  • Rich
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Jan 2003
                                                    • 11486

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Lightspeed



                                                    So you're the one! We found him! Here's the guy that Ibill has done right by!

                                                    Good luck, I hope for you that you are never in my spot with them.


                                                    Steve Lightspeed
                                                    lol

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                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 41470

                                                      #27
                                                      now that's a bitch slap.

                                                      i love it when the big boys play rough.

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                                                      • chowda
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                        • 9527

                                                        #28
                                                        just ask them to shave 1% off everyone's processing and they can pay off what they owe u.
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                                                        • tony299
                                                          lurker
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 57021

                                                          #29
                                                          They didnt get paid on the 900 number , so how do you expect them to pay you? When I was in sales until the check came in I didnt get paid, the check didnt come my check didnt come. Also its common sense, you do 900 and then stop getting paid , the first time that happens you take that option off. I never understand people that dont get paid and continue offering that service and complain they didnt get paid . lol They pay on time every time, the first rep we had sucked .We now have Bari and she is great, gave us her ICQ . She is right on any problem or question that comes up. Ibill was the only one to do a web meeting when the Mastercard thing came up and answer any questions posed to them.
                                                          Last edited by tony286; 04-05-2004, 03:23 PM.

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                                                          • Raven
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2001
                                                            • 6874

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Lightspeed
                                                            .... looks alot like the OLD Ibill.

                                                            Met with them at the Phoenix Forum this week. Here is a sample of the conversation:

                                                            me: "Is there ANY CHANCE that I will be paid the money you owe me?"

                                                            Garrett Bender: "No."


                                                            Well, thanks "New Ibill" for the "New buttfucking"... It feels a lot like the "Old buttfucking".

                                                            When I'm asked which processor I trust and recommend, you can be sure I won't say Ibill.

                                                            Steve Lightspeed
                                                            I was truly surprised to see them there, Steve.

                                                            They pretty much sounded like the same IBill people who were in Vancouver, back in October.

                                                            So, if it looks like a rat and talks like a rat......

                                                            Good seeing you, Steve!
                                                            Raven

                                                            ~RETIRED~

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                                                            • Ic3m4nZ
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2003
                                                              • 6285

                                                              #31
                                                              Ibill rocks for me checks are always on time can't complain

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                                                              • doober
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 6984

                                                                #32
                                                                my own ibill experience is that its been 2 + weeks they are trying to setup billing for one of my paysites....
                                                                not impressive thats for sure

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                                                                • Doctor Dre
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                  • 51692

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Webasic
                                                                  you have to admit...they are good at buttfucking though
                                                                  Definitly So many bad stories about them !
                                                                  Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                  I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                  • Doctor Dre
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 51692

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Lightspeed


                                                                    Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

                                                                    "But then we'd have to pay everyone."

                                                                    oh no, not that!

                                                                    Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention
                                                                    hahahahha ! Don't make something when you're not gonna pay . I'm sure they lost more business then they would have done paying every1
                                                                    Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                    • Doctor Dre
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 51692

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by tony404
                                                                      Ibill has done right by us and I expect that to continue
                                                                      Who are you ? An affiliate getting checks ?
                                                                      Originally posted by rayadp05
                                                                      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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                                                                      • Sly_RJ
                                                                        Live Hard - Die Hard
                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 17042

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                                        They didnt get paid on the 900 number , so how do you expect them to pay you?
                                                                        So you're saying iBill hasn't been paid in years? They're making no money? They shut down operations years ago?
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                                                                        • BuckLover
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                          • 1656

                                                                          #37
                                                                          I used I bill! the ratios suck but they seem to pay on time!

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                                                                          • quiet
                                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                                            • 25115

                                                                            #38
                                                                            ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.
                                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                            • SteveLightspeed
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 7940

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by quiet
                                                                              ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.

                                                                              With stories like this, it makes it hard to understand why they would be so tight with a relatively small amount of money?
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                                                                              • quiet
                                                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                • Sep 2001
                                                                                • 25115

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Lightspeed



                                                                                With stories like this, it makes it hard to understand why they would be so tight with a relatively small amount of money?
                                                                                i agree, it was a bad move on their part. i lost some 900 money, but it was a joke, because we did not push 900 at all.

                                                                                i definitely feel for those who lost substantial 900 revenue.
                                                                                we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                • Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                  • 4263

                                                                                  #41
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                                                                                  • Giorgio_Xo
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                    • 4263

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by quiet
                                                                                    ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.
                                                                                    You don't advantage of that and move to warmer climes!
                                                                                    Make Levees, Not War

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                                                                                    • LadyTiger1969
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Apr 2004
                                                                                      • 137

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Lightspeed


                                                                                      Yeah, and their reasoning for not paying me was:

                                                                                      "But then we'd have to pay everyone."

                                                                                      oh no, not that!

                                                                                      Can't wait to see Ibill at the next convention
                                                                                      OMG! Are you serious? They said that! I thought they were trustworthy and stuff!

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                                                                                      • BMI Lace
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 16116

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Wow, looks like im pulling links to sponsers who use Ibill.
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                                                                                        • quiet
                                                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                                                          • 25115

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by BMI Lace
                                                                                          Wow, looks like im pulling links to sponsers who use Ibill.
                                                                                          lol the web900 thing went down a LONG time ago. but pull those links...
                                                                                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                          • jimmyf
                                                                                            OU812
                                                                                            • Feb 2001
                                                                                            • 12651

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by quiet
                                                                                            ibill helped to make me a multi-millionaire. they've continued to send beautiful wires to me, every two weeks, since 1997. there were some rough times, but i never missed a payment. and things have been very smooth as of late.
                                                                                            you are next. Be reading your ibill post one day.
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                                                                                            • icedemon
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                                              • 1022

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                              They didnt get paid on the 900 number , so how do you expect them to pay you? When I was in sales until the check came in I didnt get paid, the check didnt come my check didnt come. Also its common sense, you do 900 and then stop getting paid , the first time that happens you take that option off. I never understand people that dont get paid and continue offering that service and complain they didnt get paid . lol They pay on time every time, the first rep we had sucked .We now have Bari and she is great, gave us her ICQ . She is right on any problem or question that comes up. Ibill was the only one to do a web meeting when the Mastercard thing came up and answer any questions posed to them.
                                                                                              Everyhahahaha had a contract with iBill, not ATT&T (or who ever was doing the 900 Billing for iBill). iBill should of at least setup some type of monthly payment to pay everyhahahaha what they owe(d). Alot of companies still payed out to their affiliates for the 900 Billing. That was to keep their reputation good. iBill apperantly doesn't care about their reputation.

                                                                                              My billing company will be offering 900 Billing. If I don't get the money from MCI, I would still payout what is owed. Even if it meant working out a payment plan with each company. It's just bad business, to say to your clients "tough luck", but we want to keep you as a customer.
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                                                                                              • tony299
                                                                                                lurker
                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                • 57021

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by icedemon


                                                                                                Everyhahahaha had a contract with iBill, not ATT&T (or who ever was doing the 900 Billing for iBill). iBill should of at least setup some type of monthly payment to pay everyhahahaha what they owe(d). Alot of companies still payed out to their affiliates for the 900 Billing. That was to keep their reputation good. iBill apperantly doesn't care about their reputation.

                                                                                                My billing company will be offering 900 Billing. If I don't get the money from MCI, I would still payout what is owed. Even if it meant working out a payment plan with each company. It's just bad business, to say to your clients "tough luck", but we want to keep you as a customer.
                                                                                                Have you asked your billing company if they dont get paid by the phone company will you still get your money ? I highly doubt it. These billing companies process transactions, they are not a insurance policy. I will go back to the sales analogy, if you are in a commision setting until the customer pays you dont get paid. Its that simple and I go back to my original statement if you didnt get paid for 900 why did you keep the option up?

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                                                                                                • icedemon
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                  • 1022

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                  Have you asked your billing company if they dont get paid by the phone company will you still get your money ? I highly doubt it.
                                                                                                  When I was talking about my billing company, I was talking about the billing company I own "PayWide Billing". If my billing company "PayWide Billing" didn't get paid for 900 Billing like what happened to iBill, my company would still payout to my customers. My customers have a contract with my company, not the company that my company does the 900 Billing through.

                                                                                                  Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                  These billing companies process transactions, they are not a insurance policy. I will go back to the sales analogy, if you are in a commision setting until the customer pays you dont get paid. Its that simple and I go back to my original statement if you didnt get paid for 900 why did you keep the option up?
                                                                                                  I agree that if you don't get paid, you should drop it. But with 900 Billing, it takes around 2 months before finding out that your not getting paid.

                                                                                                  These billing companies process transactions for their customers and they are responsible for paying their customers what their customers are owed. Just because AT&T didn't pay iBill, doesn't all of a sudden relieve iBill of their debt to their customers.
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                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                                                    • 26118

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