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  • aico
    Moo Moo Cow
    • Mar 2004
    • 14748

    #1

    Did you know this about Hemi engines?

    Did you know that the 8 cylinder Hemis have a feature that allows you to shut down 4 of the cylinders and run on 4??

    I didn't know this until someone just told me. They don't really mention it on the commercials, they use the name of what it is called like "With the Mileage plus system" or something but they don't even tell you what it is. I'd think they would want to make this more well known. Weird.

    And how the fuck do you shut down 4 cylinders??? Engines get hot as hell, wouldn't the pistons get all fucked up if they aren't moving and circulatin oil on themselves?
  • Ohm
    So Fucking Banned
    • Jun 2006
    • 128

    #2
    They fucked up the badboy Hemi image when they threw one into a fucking station wagon! What in the fuck were they thinking!?!?

    So now you can get your groceries faster than ever before!

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    • WarChild
      Let slip the dogs of war.
      • Jan 2003
      • 17263

      #3
      Originally posted by aico
      Did you know that the 8 cylinder Hemis have a feature that allows you to shut down 4 of the cylinders and run on 4??

      I didn't know this until someone just told me. They don't really mention it on the commercials, they use the name of what it is called like "With the Mileage plus system" or something but they don't even tell you what it is. I'd think they would want to make this more well known. Weird.

      And how the fuck do you shut down 4 cylinders??? Engines get hot as hell, wouldn't the pistons get all fucked up if they aren't moving and circulatin oil on themselves?
      I'd assume the piston still moves, there's just no injection or explosion for that cylinder, it's "dragged" along.
      .

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      • the Shemp
        congrats to the winners
        • Nov 2001
        • 10891

        #4
        i think the pistons still move....
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        • Expo_Vids
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2005
          • 1162

          #5
          Originally posted by Ohm
          They fucked up the badboy Hemi image when they threw one into a fucking station wagon! What in the fuck were they thinking!?!?

          So now you can get your groceries faster than ever before!

          you talkin about the Magnum?
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          • BIGTYMER
            Junior Achiever
            • Nov 2004
            • 17066

            #6
            I heard about it on a commercial or was it at the Detroit auto show.. can't remember.

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            • the Shemp
              congrats to the winners
              • Nov 2001
              • 10891

              #7
              Originally posted by Ohm
              They fucked up the badboy Hemi image when they threw one into a fucking station wagon! What in the fuck were they thinking!?!?

              So now you can get your groceries faster than ever before!
              here ya go...

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              • biftek
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jan 2005
                • 1030

                #8
                the pistons would have to move , they are connected to the crankshaft so there is no way to stop 4 pistons

                all that would happen is no explosion happens in the cylinder , the firing order would probaly be 1,3,5,7 , spread the load out over the block so that it doesn't get quite as hot
                Last edited by biftek; 07-21-2006, 04:05 PM.

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                • stickyfingerz
                  Doin fine
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 24984

                  #9
                  Yes I knew.

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                  • Vendzilla
                    Biker Gnome
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23200

                    #10
                    I have a couple friends with the hemi set up, they love it, power when you want it and good mileage, not found anywhere else like that.
                    My brother has a cummins in his truck, all the fixins, it hauls ass! 0-100mph on a on-ramp in a 1-ton 4x4 4 door pickup!!!
                    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                    think about that

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                    • biftek
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 1030

                      #11
                      it's name is "Multi-Displacement System"

                      just another thing that will fuck up on an engine

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                      • MaddCaz
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 9483

                        #12
                        Originally posted by aico
                        Did you know that the 8 cylinder Hemis have a feature that allows you to shut down 4 of the cylinders and run on 4??

                        I didn't know this until someone just told me. They don't really mention it on the commercials, they use the name of what it is called like "With the Mileage plus system" or something but they don't even tell you what it is. I'd think they would want to make this more well known. Weird.

                        And how the fuck do you shut down 4 cylinders??? Engines get hot as hell, wouldn't the pistons get all fucked up if they aren't moving and circulatin oil on themselves?
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                        • juz
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2006
                          • 307

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WarChild
                          I'd assume the piston still moves, there's just no injection or explosion for that cylinder, it's "dragged" along.

                          Thats exactly what happens, Cadillac did this on their STS's in the early 90's

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                          • Vendzilla
                            Biker Gnome
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23200

                            #14
                            Originally posted by juz
                            Thats exactly what happens, Cadillac did this on their STS's in the early 90's
                            Yeah I remember those, it was the 8-6-4 thing, it sucked, the hemi got it right, the biggest problem with the caddy version was lubrication, Dodge figured out how to overcome that, the damn thing works pretty good
                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                            think about that

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                            • Grapesoda
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 46234

                              #15
                              gm has that system also . . my caddy sts uses that . . they call it 'vvs' or 'vvt' something like that

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                              • JFK
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                                • Jan 2002
                                • 67369

                                #16
                                Originally posted by the Shemp
                                here ya go...

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                                • sickkittens
                                  I am a meat popsicle.
                                  • Jul 2002
                                  • 25100

                                  #17
                                  They do mention it on commercials I do believe.

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                                  • Fresh
                                    • Mar 2005
                                    • 4920

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by aico
                                    And how the fuck do you shut down 4 cylinders??? Engines get hot as hell, wouldn't the pistons get all fucked up if they aren't moving and circulatin oil on themselves?

                                    you actually dont shut down the 4 cyliders, they do so themselves and as far as i understand you have no control over it. If you are just cruising at low speeds, the car will use 4 cylinders, once you gun it or give it enough gas, the other 4 kick in.


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                                    • Spunky
                                      I need a beer
                                      • Jun 2002
                                      • 133978

                                      #19
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                                      • Hollywood376
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jul 2005
                                        • 1154

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Wanton
                                        gm has that system also . . my caddy sts uses that . . they call it 'vvs' or 'vvt' something like that
                                        I remember this being on the ZR1 corvette back around 1990. It had what they called a "valet key" you could remove that would cripple four of the eight cyclinders

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                                        • ProducerCashDave
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                                          • Jun 2006
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                                          • Kimo
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                                            • Jan 2006
                                            • 11542

                                            #22
                                            thats fucking awesome
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                                            • Wiggles
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • May 2004
                                              • 14423

                                              #23
                                              ya its getting really popular right now, can switch it down for city use and save gas.
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                                              • Theater
                                                Registered User
                                                • Apr 2006
                                                • 26

                                                #24
                                                Actually they use a rotating firering order to do this! Its not really new Chrysler messed with it several times in the past!

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                                                • media
                                                  Confirmed Moneymaker
                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                  • 9853

                                                  #25
                                                  It's called MDS "Multi Displacement System" they actually do talk about it on the commercials... most people don't know what MDS is though... it's on the new commercials with Dr. Z
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                                                  • Beejeebers
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Oct 2004
                                                    • 290

                                                    #26
                                                    How the Multi-Displacement System Works

                                                    The idea was to design a system where the onboard engine computer could deactivate four cylinders simultaneously. This is especially helpful when the vehicle is in cruise mode running down the freeway at 65 mph where the road load horsepower requirement is probably less than 20 hp. In this situation, it doesn't make much sense to have all eight cylinders pumping away when four could easily to the job. Eliminate the pumping requirements of four cylinders, and you're guaranteed to improve fuel economy. That's why DaimlerChrysler designed the Multi-Displacement System (MDS).

                                                    The system was designed around what is called a "lost motion device." DaimlerChrysler engineers designed the Hemi with a separate oil circuit controlled by four solenoids that apply oil pressure to eight specially configured hydraulic roller lifters. When the computer decides to deactivate the cylinders, the solenoids are electronically engaged and oil pressure is sent to the lifters via a separate oil passage in the block that pushes on a small pin that allows the internal piston in the hydraulic lifter to disengage from the lifter. The lifter body still rises and falls with the cam lobe, but the piston that is linked to the pushrod remains stationary. DaimlerChrysler engineers state that the system can deactivate four cylinders within 40 milliseconds (0.040 second). Both the intake and exhaust lifters for each cylinder are deactivated. Every other cylinder is deactivated so the transition from eight to four and four to eight cylinders is seamless. We've driven both the new Dodge Magnum and the Chrysler 300-C, and it is impossible to tell when the engine is running on four cylinders and when it doubles back to eight.

                                                    It so nice to have 5.7 litres of power when needed but still save some $ at the gaspump. The other car companies are currently working on their own verisions of this not so new technology.

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                                                    • aico
                                                      Moo Moo Cow
                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 14748

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Beejeebers
                                                      How the Multi-Displacement System Works

                                                      The idea was to design a system where the onboard engine computer could deactivate four cylinders simultaneously. This is especially helpful when the vehicle is in cruise mode running down the freeway at 65 mph where the road load horsepower requirement is probably less than 20 hp. In this situation, it doesn't make much sense to have all eight cylinders pumping away when four could easily to the job. Eliminate the pumping requirements of four cylinders, and you're guaranteed to improve fuel economy. That's why DaimlerChrysler designed the Multi-Displacement System (MDS).

                                                      The system was designed around what is called a "lost motion device." DaimlerChrysler engineers designed the Hemi with a separate oil circuit controlled by four solenoids that apply oil pressure to eight specially configured hydraulic roller lifters. When the computer decides to deactivate the cylinders, the solenoids are electronically engaged and oil pressure is sent to the lifters via a separate oil passage in the block that pushes on a small pin that allows the internal piston in the hydraulic lifter to disengage from the lifter. The lifter body still rises and falls with the cam lobe, but the piston that is linked to the pushrod remains stationary. DaimlerChrysler engineers state that the system can deactivate four cylinders within 40 milliseconds (0.040 second). Both the intake and exhaust lifters for each cylinder are deactivated. Every other cylinder is deactivated so the transition from eight to four and four to eight cylinders is seamless. We've driven both the new Dodge Magnum and the Chrysler 300-C, and it is impossible to tell when the engine is running on four cylinders and when it doubles back to eight.

                                                      It so nice to have 5.7 litres of power when needed but still save some $ at the gaspump. The other car companies are currently working on their own verisions of this not so new technology.
                                                      Ha, so the pistons do stop moving, I was right... sounds like a bad idea to me. I see a recall in the near future.

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                                                      • stickyfingerz
                                                        Doin fine
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 24984

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by aico
                                                        Ha, so the pistons do stop moving, I was right... sounds like a bad idea to me. I see a recall in the near future.
                                                        Looks that way.

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                                                        • aico
                                                          Moo Moo Cow
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 14748

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
                                                          Looks that way.
                                                          "The lifter body still rises and falls with the cam lobe, but the piston that is linked to the pushrod remains stationary."

                                                          edit: ha aha haha you changed your post you cheater.

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                                                          • stickyfingerz
                                                            Doin fine
                                                            • Oct 2005
                                                            • 24984

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by aico
                                                            "The lifter body still rises and falls with the cam lobe, but the piston that is linked to the pushrod remains stationary."

                                                            edit: ha aha haha you changed your post you cheater.

                                                            hehe. Ya I reread it. Missed the stationary part first time.

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