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If it is supposed to be representing our industry, it should be staffed by people in our industry that are ELECTED. Do you want your home owners association to be always controlled by the biggest bitch on the block?Originally posted by baddog
With all due respect, elected by whom? People that are in the industry, or people that actually are members?
While I can understand why you are a little pissed, I do believe this is a private organization, expecting that they are going to open up the election of board members to the general public is a little over the top.
Have you tried buying clicks for those search terms?
Steve LightspeedAbra-cadabra!Comment
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Frankly I doubt that Joan or Gracie have anything to do with this. I've spent a good bit of time talking to Joan about many different things, and she's simply not the type of person to be a party to something like this. Nor does she manage ASACP in a manner consistent with this either.
Gary needs to step back, this is rather much, to say the least.Comment
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My point exactly!Originally posted by Yanks_Todd
I agree, an industry watch dog should always be above politics if it is to be taken seriously. I think that is a major hurdle this biz needs to get over. Some voices need to be impartial and above politics and sponsorship dollars if we are going to ever be taken as a legitimate industry.
Steve LightspeedAbra-cadabra!Comment
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Joan is on a power trip from hell too, you should see the nice presentation Shannon gave her in APRIL at the Phoenix Forum. I think she just laughed and wiped her ass with it. Stall tactics are not professional either. How many people have been approved since April? none?Originally posted by Kimmykim
Frankly I doubt that Joan or Gracie have anything to do with this. I've spent a good bit of time talking to Joan about many different things, and she's simply not the type of person to be a party to something like this. Nor does she manage ASACP in a manner consistent with this either.
Gary needs to step back, this is rather much, to say the least.
We should make our presentation public, and let ASACP explain why they have ignored us!
Steve LightspeedAbra-cadabra!Comment
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I wondered if there was some punctuation missing there after the 4th or 5th time I read it.Originally posted by Tanker
Baddog my bad I ment to put a , in there
I doubt that, Sex.com and ASACP are in bed together!
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Again, if I am in a HOA, I am paying into that HOA.Originally posted by Lightspeed
If it is supposed to be representing our industry, it should be staffed by people in our industry that are ELECTED. Do you want your home owners association to be always controlled by the biggest bitch on the block?
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That's just typical of the way Gary runs his biz...you won't ever catch me doing any biz with him EVER.Originally posted by WiredGuy
This practice is rather unfair of sex.com to do. A search for "child porn" on sex.com gives as a result the ASACP. That's fair. But labelling searches such as "tawnee stone" or "lightspeed" into the same category as CP is totally uncalled for Gary.
WGI may be here, I may be there; nobody knows, nobody cares!Comment
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I could somewhat understand this if it was being done to others with similar type sites, but searching for similar sites doesn't produce the same results.
I agree with the need for an orginization like this to fight CP, but doing crap like this??? Come on... are they fighting CP, or targeting people they don't like? How long will it be before their credibility is shot all to hell and the orginazaiton is seen as nothing more than worthless window dressing?Comment
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Well, I sent Gary a link to this thread, will see what he has to say.Comment
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But, if you lived on that street and they refused to take your money to give you a voice about what goes on on that street, and continued to tell you your yard was always in need of repair, would you have a problem with that?Originally posted by baddog
Again, if I am in a HOA, I am paying into that HOA.
I would.Comment
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Originally posted by baddog
Again, if I am in a HOA, I am paying into that HOA.
I offered to support ASACP the day Aly introduced Joan in LA in 2002. I agree with their mission, wholeheartedly.
But they are more interested in playing industry politics than protecting children. And forget about FREE SPEECH and the FIRST ADMENDMENT!
Steve LightspeedAbra-cadabra!Comment
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everytime i report a site to asacp they write back & tell me its not cp
funny, i always thought a 10 year old boy getting fucked in the ass was cp
guess notthe revolution is coming.Comment
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Steve, you dont know the secret handshake....Originally posted by Lightspeed
And it goes to a link for ASACP? What a CROCK OF SHIT!
Does anyone else think ASACP should be staffed by an elected committee? Industry politics within the current committee seems to be clouding their judgement and wasting their resources. Maybe they could focus on their real goal of removing CP from the net?
Has anyone else had enough of these assclowns running ASACP?
Hey Gary, Joan
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With all the hate and unethical moves (ie.. shouldn't they accept donations from anyone not agaisnt their cause?).. someone should organise one, voted by both industry and/or donating members, that would represent the adult industry better than a 3rd party who does only what they want, regardless of the industry needs.
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dont exagerate about very serious matters such as this, i think you are lyingOriginally posted by Dawgy
everytime i report a site to asacp they write back & tell me its not cp
funny, i always thought a 10 year old boy getting fucked in the ass was cp
guess not
sex + under 18 = cp, make sure that you have your facts straight before you accuseComment
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LOL, I tried to give like $2000 and they refused to take it. Fuck emOriginally posted by Tanker
Thats no screwup, they Garry and Joan will not even let steve donate to thier cause when he tried a few years agoICQ me lets make a deal 116894466
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I think its more like a secret dicksuck....Originally posted by the Shemp
Steve, you dont know the secret handshake....Abra-cadabra!Comment
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I don't think that is possible, so I guess the HOA analogy is not a very good one.Originally posted by ronaldo
But, if you lived on that street and they refused to take your money to give you a voice about what goes on on that street, and continued to tell you your yard was always in need of repair, would you have a problem with that?
I would.Comment
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Choker you are a TGPer. you are an outlaw in the eyes of ASACP..Originally posted by Choker
LOL, I tried to give like $2000 and they refused to take it. Fuck emComment
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That organization is not run well at all...Comment
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what does tgping have to do with child porn?Originally posted by the Shemp
Choker you are a TGPer. you are an outlaw in the eyes of ASACP..
does asacp automatically assume all tgps are cp?the revolution is coming.Comment
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i cant belong to ASACP because im an evil TGP guy.Originally posted by Lightspeed
I think its more like a secret dicksuck....
although, our host (a leading ASACP member) gladly accepts our business...plus that of many other TGPs.. i don't get it...Comment
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gary is on the board of asacp, therefore it is one of his responsibilityes to know the proper way to treat cp sites, either your sites, are, or are not CP, if they are, then asacp needs to immediatly begin to report them, if they are not, then there is no reason to list asacp as the only search result
gary needs to pick a side, either ignorance, or accuracy and lightspeed needs to file with the ftc, accusations like this is not a game
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/ruleroad.htm
The Federal Trade Commission Act allows the FTC to act in the interest of all consumers to prevent deceptive and unfair acts or practices. In interpreting Section 5 of the Act, the Commission has determined that a representation, omission or practice is deceptive if it is likely to:
mislead consumers and
affect consumers' behavior or decisions about the product or service.Comment
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Could it be that sex.com sells traffic, and competes with tgps for its income?Originally posted by the Shemp
i cant belong to ASACP because im an evil TGP guy.
although, our host (a leading ASACP member) gladly accepts our business...plus that of many other TGPs.. i don't get it...
Ah the bigger picture emerges now!
Steve LightspeedAbra-cadabra!Comment
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Actually - isn't SleazyDream a member now? Was that for his TGP or was it his paysites?Comment
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Okay, I have spoken with Joan about the TGP vs ASACP thing back when SleazyDream was having issues with them, and this is what I got from the discussion.
ASACP is still trying to gain the trust of people like the FBI so that when they report a site it is taken seriously. For this reason thay can not accept donations from just anyone, or let all comers become members because then they would have people that do have CP join up just so they could hide behind the ASACP banner.
Please don't read this to think that anyone in this thread is promoting CP, just giving you what I came away with from my personal discussions with her.
For the record, I stressed to her that there are TGPs that hand review every submission, and are paid spots only and that they should not be grouped in with every TGP that takes mass submits from anyone that submits a gallery to them.
I don't know what the gripe is ASACP has with Lightspeed, as we never discussed it.Last edited by baddog; 12-09-2004, 01:19 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by whatif_3
gary is on the board of asacp, therefore it is one of his responsibilityes to know the proper way to treat cp sites, either your sites, are, or are not CP, if they are, then asacp needs to immediatly begin to report them, if they are not, then there is no reason to list asacp as the only search result
gary needs to pick a side, either ignorance, or accuracy and lightspeed needs to file with the ftc, accusations like this is not a game
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/...s/ruleroad.htm
The Federal Trade Commission Act allows the FTC to act in the interest of all consumers to prevent deceptive and unfair acts or practices. In interpreting Section 5 of the Act, the Commission has determined that a representation, omission or practice is deceptive if it is likely to:
mislead consumers and
affect consumers' behavior or decisions about the product or service.
haha, I'm positive we're just about to hear from Gary, and the "unfortunate programming mistake" that obviously listed Lightspeed incorrectly on sex.com
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Sleazy was trying to get approved . he has posted about it before. but i havent heard offically that he is in the association..
geez, he even knows the handshake...Comment
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its just a proof of why their traffic sucks so much...Comment
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http://www.asacp.com/sponsors.htmlOriginally posted by the Shemp
Sleazy was trying to get approved . he has posted about it before. but i havent heard offically that he is in the association..
geez, he even knows the handshake...
He's thereComment
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good for Sleazy, he has been trying to get accepted there for a while
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Maybe my talk with Joan helped a little. . . . . just a littleOriginally posted by the Shemp
good for Sleazy, he has been trying to get accepted there for a while
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If someone has an issue with a sex.com procedure, they should contact sex.com.
If someone has questions about ASACP, they should email me at [email protected] or stop by the ASACP at Internext next month.ASACP - Protecting Your Business By Protecting ChildrenComment
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TopBucksTrixxxia I thought so too but try some random searches and you will see that is not the case.
Joan, great point.Comment
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Originally posted by Joan
If someone has an issue with a sex.com procedure, they should contact sex.com.
If someone has questions about ASACP, they should email me at [email protected] or stop by the ASACP at Internext next month.
Why should I "stop by" -- so I can hear more of your bullshit?
We've waited long enough, game on.
Steve LightspeedLast edited by SteveLightspeed; 12-09-2004, 01:35 PM.Abra-cadabra!Comment
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is it offical that Sleazy is in the association?Originally posted by Joan
If someone has an issue with a sex.com procedure, they should contact sex.com.
If someone has questions about ASACP, they should email me at [email protected] or stop by the ASACP at Internext next month.
i dont see any reference other than his logo....Comment
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Originally posted by Dawgy
everytime i report a site to asacp they write back & tell me its not cp
funny, i always thought a 10 year old boy getting fucked in the ass was cp
guess not
Maybe they have catholic ties?
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yuppers sleazy was on my radio show a few weeks ago and discussed this......Chaturbate Affiliate Support: [email protected]Comment
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So what are you saying, I need to start a NEW THREAD to discuss your incompetence in running ASACP?Originally posted by Joan
If someone has an issue with a sex.com procedure, they should contact sex.com.
If someone has questions about ASACP, they should email me at [email protected] or stop by the ASACP at Internext next month.
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Nah, I think you should just continue to talk about Gary's childish behaviour in this one.
You know I think the world of you Steve, but this isn't Joan's doing. It's Gary.
Personally, I don't know how much Joan is paid but if you multiplied it by ten it wouldn't be enough for me to ever consider taking the job.Comment
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Gary doesn't like Steve... that's no secret. But it's unfair to suggest that ASACP itself is actually behind this. I agree it's a low-blow, but don't blame ASACP for Gary's choices... last time I noticed, nobody controlled Gary's business but Gary.
Baddog, thanks for clarifying a few things above.Comment
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Originally posted by Kimmykim
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Normally it would be. However personal polaroids of your days as an altar boy are exempt.Originally posted by Dawgy
everytime i report a site to asacp they write back & tell me its not cp
funny, i always thought a 10 year old boy getting fucked in the ass was cp
guess not
I believe it can't be prosecuted as it falls under constitutional protection. Separation of church and state.
FOOTNOTE: I don't have any clue who dawgy is and this was not meant as a personal attack on him/her. But the door was just wide open, I could not resist walking through it.
BTW, I also believe the situation re: ASACP/LIGHTSPEED/SEX.COM is wrong. It is probably even actionable.Comment
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their traffic sucks anywayComment
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1) What is on the result set of http://www.sex.com has nothing to do with http://www.asacp.org. I am on the board because I care about prevention of the core issue of ASACP, child pornography and as I write the industry's biggest check to the organization. If you want to write a bigger check than I do, I will immediately resign and you can take my place.
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You're the king steve, the King
"Hail to the King Baby, Hail to the King"Comment
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Wow, did Gary just admit that he has bought ASACP?Originally posted by gkremen
If you want to write a bigger check than I do, I will immediately resign and you can take my place.
proof enough for me
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Steve LightspeedLast edited by SteveLightspeed; 12-09-2004, 03:43 PM.Abra-cadabra!Comment
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