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  • Napolean
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    • Nov 2002
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    #1

    little thing ive been tryin, opinions?

    i build tgp galleries, but instead of linking to the sponsor i link to a small hub page with 3-5 similiar galleries for that sponsor.

    on each gallery they are modified to show the big pic on html and link to the sponsor.

    each html has trade links where i trade with either niche tgp's or sites similiar to mine.

    ill do this with 3-5 galleries, sometimes more.. my thoughts are what if someone teamed up with me to do the same deal but trades links on their hub links to my hubs as well and i did vice versa?

    any opinions on if this seems like a waste of time or does it actually sound like a nice idea?.. or if its already been done?
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  • Doctor Dre
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    • Jan 2001
    • 51692

    #2
    I think it's a big waste of time . If the surfer cum, it's over . If you give him more then 1-2 gallery of the same content, he'll cum for sure . He is already visiting your site because he liked the 1st gallery.
    Originally posted by rayadp05
    I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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    • Doctor Dre
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      • Jan 2001
      • 51692

      #3
      There is something similar called free sites that convert really well but they have way more banners and the hits aren't comming from a TGP
      Originally posted by rayadp05
      I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?

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      • Napolean
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        • Nov 2002
        • 4330

        #4
        Originally posted by Doctor Dre
        I think it's a big waste of time . If the surfer cum, it's over . If you give him more then 1-2 gallery of the same content, he'll cum for sure . He is already visiting your site because he liked the 1st gallery.
        thats true.. think maybe converting the free site galleries to tgp2 galleries would even out the odds?
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        • psyko514
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          #5
          Originally posted by Napolean


          thats true.. think maybe converting the free site galleries to tgp2 galleries would even out the odds?
          try making TGP2 galleries with 5 large thumbs. something like 200x300 or 300x200. and link the large thumbs to the sponsor.

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          • Napolean
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            • Nov 2002
            • 4330

            #6
            Originally posted by psyko514


            try making TGP2 galleries with 5 large thumbs. something like 200x300 or 300x200. and link the large thumbs to the sponsor.
            extacly what i was getting at
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            • grumpy
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              • Jan 2002
              • 9870

              #7
              I put some scripts on my site www.bimbolinks.com Click on a link 5 times and see what happens. Great for conversions.
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              • bcooter
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                • Jan 2004
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                #8
                icq me, ill work something out with you. I like the idea, it could work my site. icq= 195479304
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                • Napolean
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                  • Nov 2002
                  • 4330

                  #9
                  the whole objective behind what im talkin about is increasing tgp traffic from each gallery rather than just throwing it at a one-time deal..

                  adding maybe refer-a-friend scripts and link trades and stuff to try to build small free sites that will keep a more steady flow of traffic.
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                  • Weppel
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2190

                    #10
                    That's not gonna work

                    As soon as the surfer is on your gallery it's your job to get that guy as fast as you can to the sponsor you're promoting. Don't give him more free porn, he has to pay for more, and thus making you money!

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                    • Napolean
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 4330

                      #11
                      http://www.search4smut.net/2004/free/frosted-faces/

                      heres an example, but things i would change now would be this.

                      1. no hardcore, barely any nudity
                      2. pics on html
                      3. trade links on every picture html site
                      4. trades would be with other hubs/toplists/ect..
                      5. more keywords added and more text

                      so the advantages would be more traffic to the sponsor from trades, more se traffic from a spider friendly hub, and less pics to intice the surf to click thru to the sponsor to see more.

                      hope this clears things up a bit

                      also.. wouldnt have that last updated on there anymore =p
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                      • Napolean
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                        • Nov 2002
                        • 4330

                        #12
                        oh and.. only 3-5 galleries.. the example has 10.. which was too many
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                        • psyko514
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                          #13
                          i think it's a good idea.
                          go with 5 galleries, but use TGP2 style galleries and link the large thumbs straight to the sponsor. i think it shouldn't do too bad. i'd try it out too and trade some links with ya.

                          btw, how well does that sweetapples page do for you?

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                          • JulianSosa
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                            • Aug 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by grumpy
                            I put some scripts on my site www.bimbolinks.com Click on a link 5 times and see what happens. Great for conversions.

                            WOW some one is thinking . Good job I bet it does good

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                            • Napolean
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 4330

                              #15
                              Originally posted by psyko514
                              i think it's a good idea.
                              go with 5 galleries, but use TGP2 style galleries and link the large thumbs straight to the sponsor. i think it shouldn't do too bad. i'd try it out too and trade some links with ya.

                              btw, how well does that sweetapples page do for you?
                              havent been pushin much traffic to it like i should, i was goin for some SE hits with it.. didnt really happen.

                              also with ccbills scrubbing its hard to get a ratio under 1000 for me nowadays.. but maybe im just getting rusty
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                              • grumpy
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                                • Jan 2002
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by JulianSosa



                                WOW some one is thinking . Good job I bet it does good
                                Infact it did. 400% increase
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                                • Napolean
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                                  • Nov 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by grumpy
                                  I put some scripts on my site www.bimbolinks.com Click on a link 5 times and see what happens. Great for conversions.
                                  dude, thats awesome too

                                  wouldnt be too hard to write either.. kinda like a 30 second ad preview (ok it is a 30 second ad), very nice
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                                  • psyko514
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by grumpy


                                    Infact it did. 400% increase
                                    think it would do better or worse if you changed it to 3 clicks?

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                                    • grumpy
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Napolean


                                      dude, thats awesome too

                                      wouldnt be too hard to write either.. kinda like a 30 second ad preview (ok it is a 30 second ad), very nice
                                      10 seconds...dont wanna lurk the surfer. Its all java and the back button still takes you back
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                                      • grumpy
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by psyko514


                                        think it would do better or worse if you changed it to 3 clicks?
                                        by 3 it gets iritating.... over 10 it will be to high...average surfer goes to 8 pages. so i took 6
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                                        • psyko514
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by grumpy


                                          by 3 it gets iritating.... over 10 it will be to high...average surfer goes to 8 pages. so i took 6
                                          8 pages. wow. interesting statistic

                                          i suppose you don't skim hits for trades, right?

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                                          • Napolean
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by grumpy


                                            by 3 it gets iritating.... over 10 it will be to high...average surfer goes to 8 pages. so i took 6
                                            do anything special with non-cookie traffic? i figure it might be impossible to do that without cookies.
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                                            • grumpy
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                                              • Jan 2002
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by psyko514


                                              8 pages. wow. interesting statistic

                                              i suppose you don't skim hits for trades, right?
                                              No big trades. All links are clean. Just a few on the subpages and through the 6 picture links at the bottom of the mainpage.
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                                              • grumpy
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                                                • Jan 2002
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Napolean


                                                do anything special with non-cookie traffic? i figure it might be impossible to do that without cookies.
                                                If no cookies..nothing happens...counter wil never reach the maximum. So no problems.
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                                                • exspamr
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                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by grumpy
                                                  I put some scripts on my site www.bimbolinks.com Click on a link 5 times and see what happens. Great for conversions.
                                                  i only needed to click it once to see this error:

                                                  a runtime error has occurred line 199 undefined is undefined

                                                  just an fyi... i doubt there are many surfers out there with visual studio's gay debugger installed

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                                                  • exspamr
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                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 1427

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Napolean
                                                    http://www.search4smut.net/2004/free/frosted-faces/

                                                    heres an example, but things i would change now would be this.

                                                    1. no hardcore, barely any nudity
                                                    2. pics on html
                                                    3. trade links on every picture html site
                                                    4. trades would be with other hubs/toplists/ect..
                                                    5. more keywords added and more text

                                                    so the advantages would be more traffic to the sponsor from trades, more se traffic from a spider friendly hub, and less pics to intice the surf to click thru to the sponsor to see more.

                                                    hope this clears things up a bit

                                                    also.. wouldnt have that last updated on there anymore =p
                                                    i like that layout... nice and clean

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                                                    • grumpy
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                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by exspamr


                                                      i only needed to click it once to see this error:

                                                      a runtime error has occurred line 199 undefined is undefined

                                                      just an fyi... i doubt there are many surfers out there with visual studio's gay debugger installed
                                                      I know the error. Thats a problem when you have visual studio installed ( i have it to to test ). Scripts are tested with ie, netscape and opera.
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                                                      • Napolean
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                                                        • Nov 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        so grumpy.. if i added somethin like this to my hub sites.. maybe a 5 second ad.. with text telling the surf that they will be directed to the gallery in 5 seconds.. think that would help things?

                                                        or make the surfer just close the page?
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                                                        • psyko514
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by grumpy


                                                          No big trades. All links are clean. Just a few on the subpages and through the 6 picture links at the bottom of the mainpage.
                                                          mind if i ask how you get your traffic then?

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                                                          • Napolean
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by psyko514


                                                            mind if i ask how you get your traffic then?
                                                            feed it from gallery traffic, by no big trades i mean no trades with tgp's or any big sites.. just smaller sites similiar to the hub page.
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                                                            • Napolean
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                                                              #31
                                                              and any traffic the se spiders might get me
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                                                              • grumpy
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Napolean
                                                                so grumpy.. if i added somethin like this to my hub sites.. maybe a 5 second ad.. with text telling the surf that they will be directed to the gallery in 5 seconds.. think that would help things?

                                                                or make the surfer just close the page?
                                                                Helped me. Increased rates with 400% And they still go to the page after a few seconds.
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                                                                • grumpy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by psyko514


                                                                  mind if i ask how you get your traffic then?
                                                                  I feed it from my other sites. It doesnt grow fast. But steadily :-)
                                                                  I have a bookmark script so i can see how many people bookmark the site and from wich page. Thats good info to to optimize your page.
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                                                                  • psyko514
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by grumpy


                                                                    I feed it from my other sites. It doesnt grow fast. But steadily :-)
                                                                    Indeed it does. I submitted a gallery in November or December 2003 and it was still getting traffic many months later

                                                                    I'm too lazy to go look again, but does the ad on the interstitial page open in a new window?

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                                                                    • grumpy
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by psyko514


                                                                      Indeed it does. I submitted a gallery in November or December 2003 and it was still getting traffic many months later

                                                                      I'm too lazy to go look again, but does the ad on the interstitial page open in a new window?
                                                                      Yes it does. I dont wanna loose the surfer. Only a fraction signup so you want the ones that dont signup left on your page.
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                                                                      • Napolean
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        cool, got some nice ideas from all this..

                                                                        thanks for the input
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                                                                        • grumpy
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Napolean
                                                                          cool, got some nice ideas from all this..

                                                                          thanks for the input
                                                                          If you want any of the scripts...just let me know. Glad to help.
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                                                                          • Napolean
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by grumpy


                                                                            If you want any of the scripts...just let me know. Glad to help.
                                                                            im pretty skilled in the php area, that kinda script would be pretty easy to make, but thanks
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                                                                            • grumpy
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Napolean


                                                                              im pretty skilled in the php area, that kinda script would be pretty easy to make, but thanks
                                                                              99% is java. Just cpy and paste from the page :-)
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                                                                              • XxXotic
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                i might make a few pages to work with ya on this.... good idea cuz I have a feeling i know where you're going with this (maybe us talking daily on icq helped that)
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                                                                                • Napolean
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by XxXotic
                                                                                  i might make a few pages to work with ya on this.... good idea cuz I have a feeling i know where you're going with this (maybe us talking daily on icq helped that)
                                                                                  rock on
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                                                                                  • gornyhuy
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by grumpy


                                                                                    99% is java. Just cpy and paste from the page :-)

                                                                                    Nice stuff, Grumpy... What bookmark tracking script do you have? Is that in java too?

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