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Jon · 12-06-2004, 03:08 PM

Very interesting thread, and rare for GFY.

I'd like to point out that in the mainstream area (non-adult/casino) shaving occurs ALL THE TIME. In fact, the largest affiliate networks bank on it because they know their publishers won't pick up on it. One of them being cj.com.

I was sending some of their advertisers mortgage leads. Now I had a script that would automatically send a lead I got from one of my search engine sites directly into their signup form. The stats were fucking horrible. It would also fluctuate like mad, as if someone on cj.com's side was sitting there manually at different times during the day or week adjusting it themselves. In fact, I would have more weekend accepted leads than any other weekday, and the annoying part was that the weekends were slow signup days.

I would get 200 accepted leads on monday, whereas my stats would show over 350. After a while I thought it was just my site, and that maybe the leads were shitty, so I emailed them, and they told me a lot of the lead's phone numbers didn't match the addresses or names, which is understandable, so I took the leads to a private database, and sure enough, what do you know, I got credit for about 340 or so of the 350 leads that cj.com only accepted 200 of. Motherfuckers ripped me off for well over $30,000 because of their inhouse shaving feature.

Mainstream webmasters really are in awe of the adult webmaster. Mostly because we are ahead of everyone in terms of marketing tactics and methods. The fact that we are constantly on top of our shit doesn't hurt too. So again, thanks for pointing this one out, because I was debating on using MPA3 for my new mainstream affiliate site.

12-06-2004, 03:08 PM
Jon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 2,578	Very interesting thread, and rare for GFY. I'd like to point out that in the mainstream area (non-adult/casino) shaving occurs ALL THE TIME. In fact, the largest affiliate networks bank on it because they know their publishers won't pick up on it. One of them being cj.com. I was sending some of their advertisers mortgage leads. Now I had a script that would automatically send a lead I got from one of my search engine sites directly into their signup form. The stats were fucking horrible. It would also fluctuate like mad, as if someone on cj.com's side was sitting there manually at different times during the day or week adjusting it themselves. In fact, I would have more weekend accepted leads than any other weekday, and the annoying part was that the weekends were slow signup days. I would get 200 accepted leads on monday, whereas my stats would show over 350. After a while I thought it was just my site, and that maybe the leads were shitty, so I emailed them, and they told me a lot of the lead's phone numbers didn't match the addresses or names, which is understandable, so I took the leads to a private database, and sure enough, what do you know, I got credit for about 340 or so of the 350 leads that cj.com only accepted 200 of. Motherfuckers ripped me off for well over $30,000 because of their inhouse shaving feature. Mainstream webmasters really are in awe of the adult webmaster. Mostly because we are ahead of everyone in terms of marketing tactics and methods. The fact that we are constantly on top of our shit doesn't hurt too. So again, thanks for pointing this one out, because I was debating on using MPA3 for my new mainstream affiliate site. __________________ WickedFire.com - Stay here. We don't need more of you. Not unless you have money, then, fine...