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  • The Apprentice
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    • Dec 2004
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    #1

    What CAN'T I sell a membership for?

    If I wanted to start a paysite, could I grab a bunch of my favorite pics of Kazaa or whoever and sell them?
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  • Illicit
    wtf ?
    • Dec 2003
    • 11895

    #2
    sure why not ? you have a bright future ahead of you
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    • bangman
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      • Sep 2004
      • 5283

      #3
      No. You need to either purchase content or shoot your own (with the right legal docs).
      What you are talking about doing is completely illegal.
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      • Jace
        FBOP Class Of 2013
        • Jan 2004
        • 35562

        #4
        holy shit

        you are now on my ignore list...sorry dude, i thought you at least knew something about the industry

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        • The Apprentice
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          • Dec 2004
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          #5
          I've seen it done before- There are ways around it.
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          • Aquarius
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            • May 2004
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            #6
            Originally posted by The Apprentice
            I've seen it done before- There are ways around it.
            OMFG!

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            • The Apprentice
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              • Dec 2004
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              #7
              Originally posted by Aquarius
              OMFG!
              N00b!
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              • detoxed
                vip member
                • Jan 2003
                • 17798

                #8
                Of course you can

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                • Dalai lama
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                  • Jul 2004
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                  #9
                  no comment

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                  • baddog
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                    • Apr 2001
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Apprentice
                    N00b!

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                      holy shit

                      you are now on my ignore list...sorry dude, i thought you at least knew something about the industry
                      he talked a good game for about 5 minutes

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                      • misty_dayz
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                        • Jun 2004
                        • 475

                        #12
                        You most certainly can.....it would be an added bonus though if your dad was a lawyer and would work for free and you always wanted a date called Big Bubba

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                        • The Apprentice
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                          • Dec 2004
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by misty_dayz
                          You most certainly can.....it would be an added bonus though if your dad was a lawyer and would work for free and you always wanted a date called Big Bubba
                          C'mon, now. I thought you guys knew something abobut the biz.

                          I've seen many sites selling memberships to a vault of "OWN3D" and "PRICELESS" pics.

                          I suppose they're breaking the law?
                          Why are they not in jail.
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                          • pornguy
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                            • Mar 2003
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                            #14
                            Is this another Juicy nic??

                            Smells like one.
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                            • SinBucks
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                              • Oct 2004
                              • 331

                              #15
                              Yikes, sorry this has bad idea written all over it

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                              • JamesK2
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                                • Aug 2004
                                • 6589

                                #16
                                Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                C'mon, now. I thought you guys knew something abobut the biz.

                                I've seen many sites selling memberships to a vault of "OWN3D" and "PRICELESS" pics.

                                I suppose they're breaking the law?
                                Why are they not in jail.
                                You're the dumbest piece of shit surfer that has ever stranded here.

                                Please go study.

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                                • The Apprentice
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                                  #17
                                  What the hell is up with you peoples attutudes?
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                                  • Jace
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                                    • Jan 2004
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    he talked a good game for about 5 minutes
                                    no shit man...i really thought he knew at least a little something from all his "friends" in teh industry

                                    apparently they didn't teach him much while he was serving them drinks

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                                    • Jace
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                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 35562

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                      What the hell is up with you peoples attutudes?
                                      you just asked a forum full of people that produce, direct and slave hard on making THE EXACT CONTENT YOU ARE ASKING IF YOU CAN STEAL
                                      get it?

                                      you just basically flat out asked to steal from 30-40% of this board....

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                                      • The Apprentice
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                        no shit man...i really thought he knew at least a little something from all his "friends" in teh industry

                                        apparently they didn't teach him much while he was serving them drinks

                                        You're a dick. I asked a question. Thanks for the "troll."
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                                        • sean416
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                                          • Feb 2004
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                          C'mon, now. I thought you guys knew something abobut the biz.

                                          I've seen many sites selling memberships to a vault of "OWN3D" and "PRICELESS" pics.

                                          I suppose they're breaking the law?
                                          Why are they not in jail.
                                          I've tried helping you, but let me put it to you straight.

                                          You are asking a fucking retarded question that would be clearly answered and explained had you done any amount of research what so ever. You are asking questions that are completely newbie, and you have received a lot of help. But when you lash back at people and call them 'n00b', it makes me feel sorry I spent any time trying to help you at all. Don't get angry at other people cause they arent willing to spoon feed you. The information about this subject is out there, go READ it. google.com has more information about this industry then you'll ever be able to read, but you could atleast try and educate yourself about the basics before you ask questions. Questions should be used wisely, as tools to help guide you through your path. Questions aren't a tool for the lazy, no one will spoon feed you.

                                          "People sell pictures of 'priceless' pics"

                                          1) They are not nude photos of models. They do not require 2257 information. They arent legal, but they arent in the adult business so it's comparing apples and oranges.

                                          2) Beleive or not, someone owns those pictures/movies you download on kazaa. So put yourself in the other persons shoes (it could very well be people who are a member of this board) You start up a site, work your ass off, promote your biz, etc. Then someone steals your work and charges people for it.. is that okay? Of course not. It's copywritten material, the internet is not the wild west.

                                          3) Adult sites have to be individually approved by VISA, the days of stealing content and charging memberships are LONG gone. You have to maintain a chargeback ration < %1 or else you lose your ability to process transactions online.

                                          I could go on, but I really feel like this is begining to be a waste of time explaining things to you. GOOGLE is your friend, use it before you make an ass of yourself.

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                                          • Jace
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                                            • Jan 2004
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                                            #22
                                            thanks sean for typing out all that...i just don't have the energy for newbs I used to...LOL

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                                            • Funky Bastard
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                                              • Nov 2004
                                              • 2544

                                              #23
                                              LOL You can do it if you want but It will be a waste your setting yourself up to fail from the start. You need to start at the bottom and work your way up start with a tgp and submit gallery's learn the game then move up you cant just pop up on gfy and think your going to run a paysite it dont work like that!

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                                              • The Apprentice
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                                                • Dec 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Look, do you want to get back on topic?


                                                There's a site called consumption junction- I know they're 100% legit. And there's a couple more sites just like it. They have content ranging from people being decapatated to extreme fetish/ gore and nude cameron dias videos.

                                                A lot of it is free, but they sell access to parts of the site. So, this is where it get's confusing, and based on your replies- it seems like it's confusing to you guys too.

                                                Do they sell the content they buy, whilst using free shit (stolen to you guys) to push it?
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                                                • The Apprentice
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                                                  #25
                                                  HKS
                                                  12-05-2004 01:57 AM
                                                  This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

                                                  What...The...Fuck?
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                                                  • Jace
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                                                    • Jan 2004
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                    Look, do you want to get back on topic?


                                                    There's a site called consumption junction- I know they're 100% legit. And there's a couple more sites just like it. They have content ranging from people being decapatated to extreme fetish/ gore and nude cameron dias videos.

                                                    A lot of it is free, but they sell access to parts of the site. So, this is where it get's confusing, and based on your replies- it seems like it's confusing to you guys too.

                                                    Do they sell the content they buy, whilst using free shit (stolen to you guys) to push it?
                                                    consumption junction uses the loophole in the law that states that they just republish things that have already been circulated

                                                    plus they have an in house lawyer that could probably put most porn lawyers to shame...an in house lawyer helps a little bit

                                                    and also, some of sites you are referring to are hosted in places that are not protected byt the same laws you abide by

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                                                    • Jace
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                                                      • Jan 2004
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                      HKS
                                                      12-05-2004 01:57 AM
                                                      This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click [here]

                                                      What...The...Fuck?
                                                      funny i get that too

                                                      wonder why?

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                                                      • n3in
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                        If I wanted to start a paysite, could I grab a bunch of my favorite pics of Kazaa or whoever and sell them?
                                                        dont bother, there's no money in porn
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                                                        • steve90
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                                                          • Oct 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                          N00b!
                                                          so you want to post content you don?t own the copyright's too or records proving they are of age. go for it mabye you can write us from jail.


                                                          also gonna put you on ignore.

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                                                          • Jace
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                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                            • 35562

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by steve90
                                                            so you want to post content you don?t own the copyright's too or records proving they are of age. go for it mabye you can write us from jail
                                                            shit, jail ain't even the worst part of it...if one of those companies or people that own the content take you to court, you are facing like a $5000 for each image

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                                                            • sean416
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                                                              • Feb 2004
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                              Look, do you want to get back on topic?


                                                              There's a site called consumption junction- I know they're 100% legit. And there's a couple more sites just like it. They have content ranging from people being decapatated to extreme fetish/ gore and nude cameron dias videos.

                                                              A lot of it is free, but they sell access to parts of the site. So, this is where it get's confusing, and based on your replies- it seems like it's confusing to you guys too.

                                                              Do they sell the content they buy, whilst using free shit (stolen to you guys) to push it?
                                                              Do some fucking research. PLEASE.

                                                              Consumption Junction isn't some site in the corner of the internet. The owners/operators post here regularily. They use FREE SPONSOR CONTENT to promote porn sites. Ever notice how on every page that has free porn they have a zillion links going to the porn site that it came from? Did you think that was an accident? They are promoting that web site as an affiliate.

                                                              They do NOT steal content. Don't mix up a stand up team of webmasters like the CJ crew with your shitty "download from kazaa and charge people" tactics.

                                                              I really don't get angry too often, but one day you will realize (hopefully) what an ass you're being here.

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                                                              • Jace
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                                                                • Jan 2004
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                                                                #32
                                                                http://www.cozyfrog.com/help.html

                                                                everyone click that link, you will be more educated and happier in life

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                                                                • The Apprentice
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                                                                  • Dec 2004
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by sean416
                                                                  I've tried helping you, but let me put it to you straight.


                                                                  "People sell pictures of 'priceless' pics"

                                                                  1) They are not nude photos of models. They do not require 2257 information. They arent legal, but they arent in the adult business so it's comparing apples and oranges.

                                                                  A lot of them are nude, and whilst they are not porn they are still not work safe- so I consider it Adult.

                                                                  Originally posted by sean416

                                                                  2) Beleive or not, someone owns those pictures/movies you download on kazaa. So put yourself in the other persons shoes (it could very well be people who are a member of this board) You start up a site, work your ass off, promote your biz, etc. Then someone steals your work and charges people for it.. is that okay? Of course not. It's copywritten material, the internet is not the wild west.
                                                                  Look, I just asked a question. I'm not here to fuck you or anyone else, but if that's what you want to see... Hell, I don't even have a site up yet- that's why I asked. To understand those part of the business that are rather hazy.

                                                                  Originally posted by sean416


                                                                  3) Adult sites have to be individually approved by VISA, the days of stealing content and charging memberships are LONG gone. You have to maintain a chargeback ration < %1 or else you lose your ability to process transactions online.
                                                                  Thanks.
                                                                  Originally posted by sean416

                                                                  I could go on, but I really feel like this is begining to be a waste of time explaining things to you. GOOGLE is your friend, use it before you make an ass of yourself.
                                                                  Too late.
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                                                                  • ProjectNaked
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                                                                    • Jul 2004
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Threads like this make me cringe......I just wish I could reach through the monitor and slap the shit out of people, or at least slap some sence into them.


                                                                    It's not worth an explination- it's too irritating to explain

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                                                                    • The Apprentice
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                      consumption junction uses the loophole in the law that states that they just republish things that have already been circulated

                                                                      plus they have an in house lawyer that could probably put most porn lawyers to shame...an in house lawyer helps a little bit

                                                                      and also, some of sites you are referring to are hosted in places that are not protected byt the same laws you abide by

                                                                      Thank you.

                                                                      See, that would have been my ideal first reply. Maybe I should have clarified my inquiry a little better.

                                                                      Sorry to threaten anyone.
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                                                                      • The Apprentice
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by ProjectNaked
                                                                        Threads like this make me cringe......I just wish I could reach through the monitor and slap the shit out of people, or at least slap some sence into them.

                                                                        I will look back on this thread- remember the products/services you endorse.
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                                                                        • sean416
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                          thanks sean for typing out all that...i just don't have the energy for newbs I used to...LOL
                                                                          hehe, I typed up a whole lot trying to explain some very basic stuff to him over here But when I saw the thread about extreme holly, I figured ah shit, he's a new to this.. he'll wanna flame people for the sake of feeling like hes part of the game, this is GFY and all. Then I saw this thread, its like jesus fuck this guy really has no fucking clue about the absolute basics. If what he was saying about being around the industry and having lots of friends in it, etc he should have some more common sense about all this.

                                                                          Apprentice,
                                                                          I think you took that quote in your sig a bit too seriously. Imagination, creativity and all that is priceless, but KNOWLEDGE is still important! You say you've already done some research then act like it.

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                                                                          • The Apprentice
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by sean416


                                                                            Apprentice,
                                                                            I think you took that quote in your sig a bit too seriously. Imagination, creativity and all that is priceless, but KNOWLEDGE is still important! You say you've already done some research then act like it.
                                                                            Depends.
                                                                            Who makes more money, rockstar or a pornstar?

                                                                            More importantly, who cares?
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                                                                            • sean416
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                                              Depends.
                                                                              Who makes more money, rockstar or a pornstar?

                                                                              More importantly, who cares?
                                                                              who made more money, rolling stones or the doors?

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                                                                              • The Apprentice
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by sean416
                                                                                who made more money, rolling stones or the doors?
                                                                                Rolling Stone...


                                                                                Holy shit, ? Images, someone sue me!



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                                                                                • sean416
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  I said rolling stoneS... ever heard of them?

                                                                                  The analogy was that both bands were great, rolling stones and the doors. Both had creativity, their own style, and made a killing. Only one of them lived long enough to enjoy their fame and wealth. The other died because they over dosed on drugs. Do you think the ones who over dosed on drugs, could they go back and do it again, would educate themselves with a bit more knowledge and not done so many drugs? mcjagger on the other hand, had a wealth of knowledge and studied economics. To this day he still has a major stake in everything that the rolling stones do. He used his knowledge to capitilize on his creativity. get it yet?

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                                                                                  • Jace
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by sean416
                                                                                    I said rolling stoneS... ever heard of them?

                                                                                    The analogy was that both bands were great, rolling stones and the doors. Both had creativity, their own style, and made a killing. Only one of them lived long enough to enjoy their fame and wealth. The other died because they over dosed on drugs. Do you think the ones who over dosed on drugs, could they go back and do it again, would educate themselves with a bit more knowledge and not done so many drugs? mcjagger on the other hand, had a wealth of knowledge and studied economics. To this day he still has a major stake in everything that the rolling stones do. He used his knowledge to capitilize on his creativity. get it yet?
                                                                                    that analogy is flawed

                                                                                    jim morrison was severly naturally depressed and didn't want the fame he received...while he did horde the attention, he still did not want it

                                                                                    that is like comparing poison to nirvana...poinson wanted fame and attention, while kurt cobain hated it

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                                                                                    • The Apprentice
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by sean416
                                                                                      I said rolling stoneS... ever heard of them?

                                                                                      The Roling Stones came and performed at my middle school for an assembly and no one knew who they were. We wanted MC Hammer, or V Ice.

                                                                                      Based on that gig, one would assume they were doing shitty.
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                                                                                      • sean416
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                        that analogy is flawed

                                                                                        jim morrison was severly naturally depressed and didn't want the fame he received...while he did horde the attention, he still did not want it

                                                                                        that is like comparing poison to nirvana...poinson wanted fame and attention, while kurt cobain hated it
                                                                                        depression is a clinically diagnosed illness. Knowledge about depression and what triggers it is one of the only known cures. So even though with the information you brouth to light the analogy does seem a bit off (mind you I did dig deep for it) in another way it further proves my point.

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                                                                                        • The Apprentice
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by JaceXXX
                                                                                          that analogy is flawed

                                                                                          jim morrison was severly naturally depressed and didn't want the fame he received...while he did horde the attention, he still did not want it

                                                                                          that is like comparing poison to nirvana...poinson wanted fame and attention, while kurt cobain hated it
                                                                                          You're so right,
                                                                                          Also, musicians who die in their prime go down with 'legend' status. (pac, cobain, hendrix, etc...)

                                                                                          This is because they never get a chance to get washed up, like all the greats eventually do. (van halen, who? mettalicops, wtf? Axel rose, huh?)
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                                                                                          • Mike Okitch
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                                                                                            #46


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                                                                                            • Napolean
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              you can, but good luck getting affiliates who will look back on this thread and know that they will never get paid for promotions when the site is taken down by legal action.

                                                                                              oh and, these people know what their talking about a hell of a lot more than you do.

                                                                                              if you're not going to like the answers.. don't ask the fucking question
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                                                                                              • sean416
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by The Apprentice
                                                                                                The Roling Stones came and performed at my middle school for an assembly and no one knew who they were. We wanted MC Hammer, or V Ice.

                                                                                                Based on that gig, one would assume they were doing shitty.


                                                                                                http://www.rollingstones.com/tour/

                                                                                                Yeah, well into their 60's and selling out concerts all around the world. Those idiots are 'has beens'

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                                                                                                • The Apprentice
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Napolean
                                                                                                  you can, but good luck getting affiliates who will look back on this thread and know that they will never get paid for promotions when the site is taken down by legal action.

                                                                                                  oh and, these people know what their talking about a hell of a lot more than you do.

                                                                                                  if you're not going to like the answers.. don't ask the fucking question

                                                                                                  Ojay.
                                                                                                  This thread is kinda about the music biz n shit.
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                                                                                                  • The Apprentice
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by sean416


                                                                                                    http://www.rollingstones.com/tour/

                                                                                                    Yeah, well into their 60's and selling out concerts all around the world. Those idiots are 'has beens'
                                                                                                    That's fine and dandy and all, but concerts account to less than 9% of music industry revenue. This has and always been the case.

                                                                                                    Wanna know who's making money, right now? Usher.
                                                                                                    EDITED: I mean Clive Davis.
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