Originally posted by dav555add Arrest him and do what, Israel already has 5000+ lunies in jail that have blood on their hands or tried to have blood on their hands. We're not talking common criminals here, no probation officer for them, either you take 'em out or they'lll continue going after you until you take 'em out...
He's gonna continue going after you from a jail cell? Would you mind if China sends a few fighter planes to exterminate some political refugees?
Once again, violence is really only a result of the problem. Solve the conflict first.
He's gonna continue going after you from a jail cell? Would you mind if China sends a few fighter planes to exterminate some political refugees?
Once again, violence is really only a result of the problem. Solve the conflict first.
You must be from a western country, right?
If you are, then you absolutely cannot understand the Arab culture. Not saying that our culture or way of thinkins is better than theirs. Just saying that they are more "radical" in their ways of life...
In 1997 Yassin was released from Israeli prison as part of an arrangement with Jordan following a failed assassination attempt of Khaled Mashal conducted by the Israeli Mossad in Jordan. Yassin was released by Israel in exchange for two Mossad agents who had been arrested by Jordanian authorities, on condition that he refrain from calling for suicide bombings against Israel.
Following his release, Yassin reassumed his leadership of Hamas. He immediately resumed his calls for resistance to Israeli occupation using tactics including suicide bombings against both Israeli military and civilian targets. His epigram is his most famous quote: "We chose this road, and will end with martyrdom or victory".
During the various stages of the "peace process" between Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), Yassin was repeatedly placed under house arrest by the PA. Each time Yassin was placed under house arrest he was eventually released, often after extended demonstrations by his supporters.
On June 13, 2003, Israeli sources announced that Yassin "is not immune" to assassination under the Israeli doctrine of targeted assassination.
Three months later, on September 6, 2003, an Israeli Air Force (IAF) F-16 dropped a quarter-ton bomb on a building in Gaza City, the Gaza Strip. Yassin was in the building at the time and was lightly wounded by the assassination attempt. Israeli officials would later confirm that Yassin was a target of the attack. Yassin was treated for injuries sustained in the attack at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City.
Following the assassination attempt, Yassin told reporters that "Days will prove that the assassination policy will not finish the Hamas. Hamas leaders wish to be martyrs and are not scared of death. Jihad will continue and the resistance will continue until we have victory, or we will be martyrs." [2]
Yassin further said that Hamas would teach Israel an "unforgettable lesson" as a result of the assassination attempt [3]. Nonetheless, Yassin made no attempt to guard himself from further assassination attempts or hide his location. Journalists sometimes visited his Gaza address, and Yassin maintained a consistent routine of being wheeled every morning to a nearby mosque.
Originally posted by dav555add You must be from a western country, right?
If you are, then you absolutely cannot understand the Arab culture. Not saying that our culture or way of thinkins is better than theirs. Just saying that they are more "radical" in their ways of life...
No, I'm Christian Lebanese who believed for a long time that muslims should be treated in a "radical" way.
But then I came here, learned more about the western culture and at first there are many things I thought where just plain stupid. Eventually I realised that those values don't exist only because they're nice but because they work.
Don't tell me that I should just throw the western values away and go back to my old way of thinking just because of some terrorists who would like us to play there game. I believe in those values and I think there's no way you can win the hearts and minds of moderate muslims if you ain't gonna respect the values you preach.
No, I'm Christian Lebanese who believed for a long time that muslims should be treated in a "radical" way.
But then I came here, learned more about the western culture and at first there are many things I thought where just plain stupid. Eventually I realised that those values don't exist only because they're nice but because they work.
Don't tell me that I should just throw the western values away and go back to my old way of thinking just because of some terrorists who would like us to play there game. I believe in those values and I think there's no way you can win the hearts and minds of moderate muslims if you ain't gonna respect the values you preach.
Hmmmm, did you just jump right into these wonderful values and good things or didi you go to the ghetto and work your way up?
Take a look at the gettho because it sounds like you got mind fucked.
Good luck. Attack some shit I actually care about.
No, I'm Christian Lebanese who believed for a long time that muslims should be treated in a "radical" way.
But then I came here, learned more about the western culture and at first there are many things I thought where just plain stupid. Eventually I realised that those values don't exist only because they're nice but because they work.
Don't tell me that I should just throw the western values away and go back to my old way of thinking just because of some terrorists who would like us to play there game. I believe in those values and I think there's no way you can win the hearts and minds of moderate muslims if you ain't gonna respect the values you preach.
So, you remember that the only country that actually helped your brothers in Lebanon were the Israeli... Right?
You already forgot when they liberated you in 1982?
Originally posted by dav555add So, you remember that the only country that actually helped your brothers in Lebanon were the Israeli... Right?
You already forgot when they liberated you in 1982?
I only remember that Palestinians and Israelis got us into trouble but I don't think they're the ones to blame. I don't agree with how the Lebanese allowed themselves to be divided by religion. I like to go to Lebanon on vacation, great weather, great country but personally I'm ashamed of that whole civil war thing that happened.
Originally posted by directfiesta Amazing how you guys were so pissed when France threathen to use it's veto against the unilateral invasion of Iraq under false pretenses of WMD....
Two cents. That is just about what the above statement is worth.
You guys? A lot of us were not upset with France and believed that we didn't have enough evidence to go to war. Those that did were more guilty of having placed too much faith in our government. George Bush has abused our trust and hopefully will be gone within a year.
There are plenty of us who feel the US should work with the United Nations and not unilaterally. Maybe with Kerry in office, we can again repair our relations with the world.
Now as far as assasinations and extrajudiciary punishment, say Israel arrested that Shiek and threw him in jail. Can someone tell me how long it would take for Hamas to grab hostages and demand his release? Would the Palestinians be any less angry if he were jailed?
If I were Israel, I would make a clear and overt gesture to the Palestians by dismantling some settlements. That could heal some of the wounds. Of course Israel is too stubborn and foolish to do anything of the kind.
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He's gonna continue going after you from a jail cell?
are you kidding? many organizations are run from jail cells . . .. Mexican Mafia, Aryan Brotherhood, Crips, Bloods, Teamsters (well, they used to be anyway)
Originally posted by blackmonsters What a matter blimpo, you and the cops having problems finding them? Well here you go:
edited so people may actually read my response
Okay, I tried typing slowly, and in large letters, but that did not work, so please read this out loud and slowly, so maybe you will understand it this time:
If I owned a church and thought a skinhead was going to burn it down, based on the fact that he had a history of burning down my churches, yeah, I would fucking kill him after it became evident the cops (UN) weren't going to do anything to protect my property
I do not own a fucking church. I have no need/reason to go hunt down the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood.
You seem to have a vested interest, so knock yourself out, with my blessing.
If I get picked to be a juror on your subsequent trial I will vote not guilty, self defense, and you will walk.
You will still be an idiot, but you will not be in jail
Originally posted by baddog
If I owned a church and thought a skinhead was going to burn it down, based on the fact that he had a history of burning down my churches, yeah, I would fucking kill him after it bacame evident the cops (UN) wasn't going to do anything to protect my property
blackmonsters is upset because his church was burned down by the Aryan Brotherhood, and Israel did not launch a rocket at them to retalliate
Finally we agree on something.
All my tax dollars go to Israel to build those rockects so it would be nice if they would shoot one at a fucking skin head for me.
Good luck. Attack some shit I actually care about.
Finally we agree on something.
All my tax dollars go to Israel to build those rockects so it would be nice if they would shoot one at a fucking skin head for me.
As Camper van Beethoven would say, Take the Skinheads Bowling
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