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You mean a world without scientologists?

I know someone who got into scientology, went in debt about 120,000 paying them money.. and was told to starve himself to cleanse his soul, he almost died... Until family did an emergency intervention and put him in an institution..

The freaks from the cult or what have you tried to visit him in the hospital even, and after he got out of the hospital... they got told to fuck off alot, I think they wanted to make sure that he didnt snitch them out..

His ex wife referred him to the church, then once he was in, she split and the brain washing got crazy.. They used girls, hot tubs, alcohol and other shit to get him excited to sign checks to them...

Pretty fucking crazy... We took a tour of the L Ron Hubbard Museum in Hollywood.. I felt the brainwash attempt as soon as they started talking to me.. The people in that place all had blank eyes... no emotion to them..

They tried to get me to buy like $300 worth of books... told em to fuck off, only reason I went in was to sit in an air conditioned building for a while until I hadda bail..

Please read my thread on http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=260031 ! Can you help me please? They are on my door because I said I wanted to leave! They say they are going to ruin me if I don't get back there and produce for Scientology! This is so horrible, please help me!!

If you're serious, just call the police, get restraining orders, and buy a gun to shoot them if they come inside your house...

No... They will spill everything I told them in the Auditing sessions.... Everyone will know my darkest of secrets and police can't do anything about it! My life is ruined, I might aswell just go SHOOT down a couple of them and then shoot myself!!

Repetitive Hubbard ?

Watching Battlefield Earth almost convinced me to join them.

a little off topic.. one time I was woken up by some Jahova's Witnesses at my door..

first time ever, I actually wanted to hear their theories (i was working from home and needed company)..

unfortunately I think I looked a little scary to them with the bed head, glazed eyes and bags under my eyes and all.. they just handed me a pamphlet and hurried off..

I had never felt so alone in my life after

By the way, here's some good reading material for those of you who are interested in learning more about Scientology and its ways: http://www.xenu.net

I particularly recommend the graphical introduction to Scientology at http://www.xenu.net/archive/scientology_illustrated/ .

just channel your anger and become like Rambo, train in the mountains for a year, take sniper lessons, and then take out as many of those skull-fuckers as you can!









just kidding.

I shall call myself.... Xenu the Clamcracker!

scientology is a just a scheme to get rich.

"Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be to start his own religion." L. Ron Hubbard

Watching Battlefield Earth almost convinced me to kill myself, due to it being fucking shit

Scientology is fucked up ... I think Travolta and Tom Cruise are in it ...

Timeline of your spiritual leaders life:

13 Mar 1911 Lafayette Ronald Hubbard born to Harry Ross Hubbard and Ledora May Hubbard, Tilden NE.
1 Apr 1924 13-year-old Boy Scout L. Ron Hubbard receives the rank of Eagle Scout in Washington, D.C. Hubbard later claims that he was the nation's youngest Eagle Scout, despite the fact that the national office has never recorded that factoid.
1928 During a trip to China, a teenaged L. Ron Hubbard records the following observations in his diary: "They smell of all the baths they didn't take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here."
1 May 1930 LaFayette Ronald Hubbard joins a Marine Corps Reserve training unit. He is placed on inactive status the same day, and spends only five weeks of his 18-month stint actually doing anything.
Sep 1930 LaFayette Ronald Hubbard enrolls in the civil engineering program at George Washington University. He spends two years in the program, ultimately earning six D's (General Chemistry, Differential Calculus, Integral Calculus, Plane Analytic Geometry, Electricity and Magnetism) and four F's (First Year German, Differential Calculus, Molecular and Atomic Physics).
13 Jul 1931 L. Ronald Hubbard earns Commercial Glider Pilot Licence #385 after 116 flights.
23 Jun 1932 The Doris Hamlin sets sail for the Caribbean from Baltimore.
13 Apr 1933 Hubbard marries Polly (aka Margaret Louise) Grubb in Elkton, Maryland.
25 Jun 1941 L. Ron Hubbard receives his commission in the Naval Reserves, as a Lieutenant junior grade.
4 Feb 1942 The US Naval Attaché in Melbourne reports: "By assuming unauthorized authority and attempting to perform duties for which he has no qualifications, he became the source of much trouble. [...] This officer is not satisfactory for independent duty assignment. He is garrulous and tries to give impressions of his importance. He also seems to think he has unusual ability in most lines. These characteristics indicate that he will require close supervision for satisfactory performance of any intelligence duty."
25 Sep 1942 The Commandant of Boston Navy Yard notifies Washington that L. Ron Hubbard is ill-suited to run a ship: "Lt. L.R. Hubbard is in command of YP 422 completing conversion and fitting out at Boston, in the opinion of the Commandant he is not temperamentally fitted for independent command. It is therefore urgently requested that he be detached and that order for relief be expedited in view of the expected early departure of the vessel. Believe Hubbard capable of useful service if ordered to other duty under immediate supervision of a more senior officer."
1 Oct 1942 Hubbard summarily relieved of his command. He had been assigned to the USS YP-422.
18 May 1943 On the very first day of its maiden voyage, the USS PC-815 encounters one or two enemy submarines off the coast of Oregon. Its commanding officer reports to CINCPAC that he expended all depth charges on the suspicious sonar contact and also fired many rounds of ammunition at what might have a piece of driftwood. The next day, the chase is joined by four other ships and two blimps. No sign of any submarine is ever found.
28 Jun 1943 In an attempt to get in some impromptu target practice, the crew of the U.S.S. PC 815 fires four 50-caliber artillery rounds at a floating object. Unfortunately, this object is right in front of the inhabited island of South Coronados, and at least two shells strike land.
7 Jul 1943 "Consider this officer lacking in the essential qualities of judgment, leadership and cooperation. He acts without forethought as to probable results. He is believed to have been sincere in his efforts to make his ship efficient and ready. Not considered qualified for command or promotion at this time. Recommend duty on a large vessel where he can be properly supervised."
15 Jul 1943 Lieutenant Lafayette Ron Hubbard is relieved of his command for conducting an unauthorized gunnery practice and violating the territorial waters of the nation of Mexico.
27 Sep 1944 Navigation Officer Lt. Hubbard just so happens to be inspecting a load of cargo being brought aboard the SS Algol when he notices a molotov cocktail made out of a Coke bottle. Hubbard is detached from the ship a few hours later.
Aug 1945 Hubbard is introduced to the Agape Lodge of the Ordo Templi Orientis in Pasadena.
5 Sep 1945 Hubbard is admitted at Oak Knoll Naval Hospital in Oakland, California for "epigastric distress."
10 Aug 1946 Without bothering to get a divorce from Polly, Hubbard marries Sara Elizabeth Northrup in Chestertown, Maryland. Sara is the former girlfriend of Jack Parsons who went by the name of Betty.
24 Dec 1947 L. Ron Hubbard divorces his first wife, 16 months after marrying his second.
17 Aug 1948 L. Ron Hubbard is arrested for bad checks in San Luis Obispo, California. In court a fortnight later, Hubbard pays the $25 fine.
spring 1949 Addressing a sci-fi group in Newark, New Jersey: "Writing for a penny a word is ridiculous. If a man really wanted to make a million dollars, the best way to do it would be to start his own religion."
9 May 1950 Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health is published.
23 Feb 1951 "I was in my apartment on February 23rd, about two or three o'clock in the morning when the apartment was entered, I was knocked out, had a needle thrust into my heart to give it a jet of air to produce 'coronary thrombosis' and was given an electric shock with a 110 volt current. This is all very blurred to me. I had no witnesses. But only one person had another key to that apartment and that was Sara."

It is. But eventually he came to believe in his own bullshit, because of his many mental disorders. It's an interesting story, the whole Scientology thing. I have read a few books on the subject.

17 Apr 1951 FBI headquarters receives a communique regarding self-help author L. Ron Hubbard:

LAFAYETTE RONALD HUBBARD, FOREIGN MISCELLANEOUS. SUBJECT PRESENTLY IN CUBA AND HAS APPEALED TO MILITARY ATTACHE' HERE FOR PROTECTION FROM COMMUNISTS. SUBJECT CLAIMS HE OWNS HUBBARD PUBLICATIONS ELIZABETH, NEW JERSEY AND IS AUTHOR OF BOOK QUOTE DIANETICS UNQUOTE. PLEASE ADVISE BY AIRGRAM OF ANY PERTINENT INFORMATION RE SUBJECT.

12 Jun 1951 Hubbard granted a divorce from Sara, on the basis of her "gross neglect of duty and extreme cruelty."
1952 Hubbard marries Mary Sue Whipp.
10 Apr 1953 L. Ron Hubbard writes a letter to Helen O'Brien, revealing his newest idea for revitalizing his Dianetics business. He proposes that they apply for a church charter in Pennsylvania or New Jersey and convert their existing storefronts into "Spiritual Guidance Centers" -- although he asks her for help in thinking up a better name for the ersatz chapels. In closing, Hubbard asks for O'Brien's input on the idea, saying "I await your reaction on the religion angle." And thus, Scientology is conceived.
18 Apr 1973 L. Ron Hubbard orders the Church of Scientology to launch Operation Snow White.
28 May 1974 L. Ron Hubbard writes to the Navy asking for the 17 medals he often claimed to have won in World War II. Three weeks later, the Navy sends back the four medals he actually won, and none of the 13 imaginary ones.
16 Oct 1975 An outgoing cable from the CIA: REVIEW OF AVAILABLE INFO REGARDING OVERSEAS ACTIVITIES CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY REVEALS ONLY THAT ITS FOUNDER L. RON HUBBARD IS ECCENTRIC MILLIONAIRE WHO HAS BEEN EXPELLED FROM RESIDENCE IN SEVERAL COUNTRIES BECAUSE OF HIS ODD ACTIVITIES AND BEHAVIOUR. HE IS OWNER OF SEVERAL SHIPS WHOSE APPEARANCE IN PORTS IN VARIOUS PARTS OF WORLD HAVE STIMULATED QUERIES . . . FROM OTHER GOVERNMENTS ASKING INFO RE VESSELS MISSION AND CREW. RESPONSES INDICATE WE KNOW VERY LITTLE . . .
8 Jul 1977 FBI agents raid the offices of the Church of Scientology in Los Angeles and Washington, D.C. In addition to burglar tools and surveillance equipment, agents seize approximately 90,000 pages of documents and files, the contents of which blow the lid off Operation Snow White.
17 Mar 1978 L. Ron Hubbard is convicted in absentia of fraud by a French court. He is sentenced to four years in prison and a $7,000 fine.
15 Aug 1978 A federal grand jury indicts nine Scientologists, including L. Ron Hubbard's wife Mary Sue, for criminal acts in furtherance of Operation Snow White. The charges include burglarizing government offices and stealing official documents, perjury, conspiracy, and obstructing justice.
Mar 1979 L. Ron Hubbard secretly moves to Hemet, California.
Feb 1980 L. Ron Hubbard secretly moves to Creston, California.
Jun 1983 "I believed in Satanism. There was no other religion in the house! Scientology and black magic. What a lot of people don't realize is that Scientology is black magic that is just spread out over a long time period. To perform black magic generally takes a few hours or, at most, a few weeks. But in Scientology it's stretched out over a lifetime, and so you don't see it. Black magic is the inner core of Scientology --- and it is probably the only part of Scientology that really works." Penthouse interview.
20 Jun 1984 The court issues its ruling in Scientology v. Armstrong: The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and the bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder LRH. The evidence portrays a man who has been virtually a pathological liar when it comes to his history, background, and achievements. The writings and documents in evidence additionally reflect his egoism, greed, avarice, lust for power, and vindictiveness and aggressiveness against persons perceived by him to be disloyal or hostile. At the same time it appears that he is charismatic and highly capable of motivating, organizing, controlling, manipulating, and inspiring his adherents. He has been referred to during this trial as a "genius," a "revered person," a man who was "viewed by his followers with awe.
23 Jan 1986 L. Ron Hubbard drafts and signs his Last Will and Testament.
24 Jan 1986 L. Ron Hubbard dies in a motorhome near Creston, California, a few miles north of San Luis Obispo. He is cremated and his ashes dumped into the Pacific Ocean. The news is revealed three days later.
25 Jan 1986 The coroner's post mortem describes L. Ron Hubbard as having "long, unkempt" fingernails and toenails, and "10 recent needle marks" on the right buttock beneath a band-aid. The church did not permit an autopsy.

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