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  • StuartD
    Sofa King Band
    • Jul 2002
    • 29903
    #1

    some shaving mathematics

    I was just thinking about it yesterday... and decided to fiddle with some numbers.

    Let's say sponsor #1 doesn't shave, and therefore can only afford to pay out $25 per signup.
    Now, you send 1000 joins, at $25.. you get $25,000. That's not bad.

    Let's say sponsor #2 does shave, on average of 15%. However, that means their payout can be higher, say $35.
    Now, you send 1000 joins, and 15% doesn't show, so it's 850 joins at $35, that's $29,750.

    Discuss.
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    • juicylinks
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 122992
      #2
      yes

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        • KMR Stitch
          I am cool
          • Jul 2003
          • 14494
          #3
          Or if Sponser #2 didn't shave ;-)

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            • cool1
              sex is good
              • Sep 2001
              • 24939
              #4
              Does make one thhink doesn't Bud!

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                • MrIzzz
                  If u touch it, I will cum
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 22923
                  #5
                  stealing is stealing........if i work on something i earned my money.


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                    • [Brian]
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 1523
                      #6
                      Sponsor #3 doesn't shave and can afford to pay $100 per signup.

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                        • Repetitive Monkey
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3505
                          #7
                          If they shave 15%, they wouldn't raise the payout 40%. That's illogical. The point of shaving is to make extra dirty money.

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                            • DarkJedi
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                              • Feb 2001
                              • 28301
                              #8
                              Originally posted by juicylinks
                              yes
                              I agree.

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                                • B Sandwich
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 1600
                                  #9
                                  I'm sure the shavers shave off much more than 15% though

                                  try like 35-50% at least
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                                    • cluck
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 5248
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
                                      If they shave 15%, they wouldn't raise the payout 40%. That's illogical. The point of shaving is to make extra dirty money.
                                      Not at all. The point is to raise the payouts so more webmasters flock to the program to make their quick cash. The payout is nothing more than an incentive that gets them volume traffic. Even if they have to pay more despite whether they shave or not, they make more at the end of the month.

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                                        • Repetitive Monkey
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 3505
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by cluck


                                          Not at all. The point is to raise the payouts so more webmasters flock to the program to make their quick cash. The payout is nothing more than an incentive that gets them volume traffic. Even if they have to pay more despite whether they shave or not, they make more at the end of the month.

                                          Everyone wins when shaving occurs.
                                          To some extent, yes. But 15/40% is still very unrealistic.

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                                            • NetRodent
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 3985
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
                                              If they shave 15%, they wouldn't raise the payout 40%. That's illogical. The point of shaving is to make extra dirty money.
                                              No, the point of shaving is to make the same amount of money while being able to supposedly out-pay the competition. You don't shave to shave to take money from the pockets of existing affiliates, you shave to make your program appear more attractive to new affiliates. Once someone is in your program and has your links up, they know exactly how much money they're able to make and (if they have any brains/experience) how much money they could make else where. Shaving doesn't really help you with existing affiliates except in that you make slightly more more over the short term. However if you can get a new affiliate to put your links up because he hopes he will make more with your program, you'll make more money and over a longer period of time.
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                                                • Ray@TastyDollars
                                                  www.TastyDollars.com
                                                  • May 2002
                                                  • 6797
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by B Sandwich
                                                  I'm sure the shavers shave off much more than 15% though

                                                  try like 35-50% at least
                                                  Very least...very sad

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                                                    • abyss_al
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                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 15605
                                                      #14
                                                      lets say you send 1000 sign ups to #2 and #2's show 500 sign ups - you got fucked
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                                                        • StuartD
                                                          Sofa King Band
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 29903
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by B Sandwich
                                                          I'm sure the shavers shave off much more than 15% though

                                                          try like 35-50% at least
                                                          15% is all they need, trust me. There was only ever one program that pushed it to 50% or more and they're in serious hot water at the moment.
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                                                            • woj
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                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 47880
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by B Sandwich
                                                              I'm sure the shavers shave off much more than 15% though

                                                              try like 35-50% at least
                                                              If you shave almost 50% it would be real easy to get caught, get 3-4 webmasters to signup for you, and there will be a good chance at least one of those will not show up. With 10-15% shave you would probably need 10 or so webmasters to have a good chance of a sale not counting.
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                                                                • GSpotShawn
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 389
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Following the pattern of your logic, shaving 30% would earn you 31,500 right?
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                                                                    • Anothers
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                      • 219
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by MaskedMan
                                                                      Let's say sponsor #1 doesn't shave, and therefore can only afford to pay out $25 per signup.
                                                                      Now, you send 1000 joins, at $25.. you get $25,000. That's not bad.

                                                                      Let's say sponsor #2 does shave, on average of 15%. However, that means their payout can be higher, say $35.
                                                                      Now, you send 1000 joins, and 15% doesn't show, so it's 850 joins at $35, that's $29,750.
                                                                      following your logic:

                                                                      15% is to low

                                                                      150 * $35 = $5250

                                                                      850 * $10 = $8500 (sponsor must pay $8500 more when $35 per su)

                                                                      $10 - per signup difference ($35 - $25)

                                                                      so

                                                                      $5250 - $8500 = - $3250 (sponsor loss)

                                                                      add taxes and other
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                                                                      but you can use this formula below to your logic

                                                                      x = 100 * ($35 - $25) / $35 + $35 - $25

                                                                      x - shave %

                                                                      so minimal shave must be 22.22% = $0 loss

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                                                                        • HeebyJeeby
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                          • 161
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Shaving is an artform. They come up with all kinds of methods to keep from getting caught.

                                                                          An old friend of mine was drunk one night and explained how his company was shaving nearly 50%. They had developed software to reduce the chances of getting caught shaving. Signups from anywhere near the webmaster's zip code were never shaved for one. Same surname for another. This reduced the chances that the person was using friends and family to check for shaving.
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                                                                            • Dildozer
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 7519
                                                                              #20
                                                                              It's so hypothetical it's useless
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                                                                                • montel
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                                  • 2606
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by HeebyJeeby
                                                                                  Shaving is an artform. They come up with all kinds of methods to keep from getting caught.

                                                                                  An old friend of mine was drunk one night and explained how his company was shaving nearly 50%. They had developed software to reduce the chances of getting caught shaving. Signups from anywhere near the webmaster's zip code were never shaved for one. Same surname for another. This reduced the chances that the person was using friends and family to check for shaving.
                                                                                  omg, why does this not surprise me?
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