Why does everyone think Photoshop sucks for vector work ?

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  • machinegunkelly
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2003
    • 3304

    #1

    Why does everyone think Photoshop sucks for vector work ?

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  • toddler
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2002
    • 1911

    #2
    it doesn't...if you don't want to print.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/zoddler/

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    • icecycle
      Registered User
      • Mar 2004
      • 35

      #3
      photoslop was originally created for manipulating pixels
      ie. bitmap artwork

      adobes other product - illustrator - was created for manipulating
      vector artwork

      as of late the lines have blurred but that is the history and why
      most feel strongly about your comment

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      • modelgigtalent
        Confirmed User
        • May 2003
        • 2208

        #4
        I dont think it sucks for vector work, but Fireworks is better for vector work.


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        • loverboy
          When it rains, it pours
          • May 2003
          • 20609

          #5
          i use both Fireworks and Photoshop depending on what my needs are.
          For vectors, i recommend Fireworks.

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          • johnbosh
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2002
            • 8965

            #6
            Originally posted by modelgigtalent
            I dont think it sucks for vector work, but Fireworks is better for vector work.
            true it can do the job

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            • Esbee
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2003
              • 109

              #7
              You can draw a vector path or shape in Photoshop about the same as Illustrator, but you can't do a hell of alot with it once you've made one.

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              • machinegunkelly
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2003
                • 3304

                #8
                Originally posted by Esbee
                You can draw a vector path or shape in Photoshop about the same as Illustrator, but you can't do a hell of alot with it once you've made one.
                Well no , thats why I was asking ,
                I can pull off some stellar 100% vector shit in PS ..
                lemme ask a client if I can show this thing I am working on
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                • machinegunkelly
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 3304

                  #9
                  permission granted .
                  Check this out ..
                  I think its pretty tight .
                  100% scalable vector .


                  I get a little upset when I hear people say " only retards use PS for vector " ... its how you use the tools
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                  • Ozzymosis1
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 2094

                    #10
                    Best Vector work ive ever seen
                    SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                    • Esbee
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 109

                      #11
                      Originally posted by machinegunkelly


                      Well no , thats why I was asking ,
                      I can pull off some stellar 100% vector shit in PS ..
                      It's a time-efficiency thing though. I could take any Photoshop designer head-on using MS Paint - it's just gonna take me a hell of a lot longer.

                      Text-on-path, gradient mesh, symbols, etc - these are vector tools that makes Illustrator shine - though it's still pretty rare I find myself using it.

                      Granted, I still use PS7. I know PS-CS has text-on-path and maybe other vector features I'm not aware of so my opinion may be moot.

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                      • Esbee
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 109

                        #12
                        That's slick!

                        Is that CS or PS7?

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                        • digifan
                          The Profiler
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 14618

                          #13
                          But the file must be huge for print like 100 MB if it is A4 size and it is quite a new feature in photoshop while in Illustrator and FreeHand one could do great vector files which were much smaller in file size and perfect.
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                          • machinegunkelly
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 3304

                            #14
                            PS 7 ..

                            Ill pick up CS soon enough , havent really felt the need yet
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                            • just a punk
                              So fuckin' bored
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 32385

                              #15
                              Just because it really sucks
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                              • modelgigtalent
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2003
                                • 2208

                                #16
                                I have also used Flash for vector stuff if it is a simple thing.


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                                • Ironhorse
                                  Pixel Pusher
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 7094

                                  #17
                                  That's some good work but filesize and ease of use I think is why people prefer the other tools. Personally before I went full time on Adobe, I was using Fractal Painter which was doing excellent vector work in '96, as well as natural media effects and animation.
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                                  • machinegunkelly
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 3304

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Ironhorse
                                    That's some good work but filesize and ease of use I think is why people prefer the other tools. Personally before I went full time on Adobe, I was using Fractal Painter which was doing excellent vector work in '96, as well as natural media effects and animation.
                                    Do you mean Filesize of the PSD , its only

                                    6.79 MB (7,129,503 bytes) full size of 4000 wide

                                    at 384 layers I dont feel any lag in my PC at all ..
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                                    • eroswebmaster
                                      March 1st, 2003
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 20295

                                      #19
                                      great work man.
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                                      • Mutt
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 34431

                                        #20
                                        well vector is vector - if u can produce a vector piece of work in Photoshop that's fine, but most printers will want it in AI or EPS format. I'm no expert on printing, maybe these days PSD files are more commonplace in print shops since Photoshop added real vector tools. File size is friggin meaningless these days in graphics - not talking about web graphics of course.

                                        you used a graphic tablet to produce this piece?

                                        snobbery exists in every profession, those Illustrator snobs are what are called 'art fags' who have that superior attitude when it comes to software and other tools. Tell them you use PaintshopPro and see their reaction.
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                                        • The Truth Hurts
                                          Zph7YXfjMhg
                                          • Nov 2002
                                          • 15794

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Mutt
                                          Tell them you use PaintshopPro and see their reaction.

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                                          • smack
                                            Push Porn Like Weight.
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 10652

                                            #22
                                            used to suck for vector work, but now with the later versions it does great shit.
                                            Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

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                                            • Newton - XXXAmigoz
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 1026

                                              #23
                                              Beautiful work man .. some real talent there.
                                              SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                              • Jer
                                                God is Brazilian
                                                • Feb 2001
                                                • 10601

                                                #24
                                                I use Corel Draw since version 3 for vector work.

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                                                • foolio
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                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 12366

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by machinegunkelly
                                                  at 384 layers I dont feel any lag in my PC at all ..
                                                  gwad daaam

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                                                  • AnalProbe
                                                    pain in the Ass
                                                    • Jan 2004
                                                    • 3727

                                                    #26
                                                    Vector stuff ?

                                                    Macromedia Freehand MX is really all you need.

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                                                    • abyss_al
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                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                      • 15605

                                                      #27
                                                      because its a raster software - the edges are not smooth like Illustrator or Quark - specially when you make the image size bigger.
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                                                      • abyss_al
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                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 15605

                                                        #28
                                                        you guys are wrong - PS is NOT a vector based software - is a raster based software - there are no vectors in PS - Illustrator is vector - do you guys even know what the difference is?

                                                        maybe you guys are talking a bout using the bessier curve?
                                                        the pen tool?

                                                        PS and Illustrator have them both - but the difference is how each software makes the image

                                                        PS uses pixels- thats why the edges are not smooth, specially when image is enlarged

                                                        Illustrator uses vectors- it plots points(like a graph) and connects them - for example a circle is 4 points plotted and connected then curved- when you enlarge the image/shape the plotted points get further/larger keeping the smooth shape and no pixelation/bluriness
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