Google's adsense is being ruined by clickbombing scammers:

**detoxed** · 03-23-2004, 02:18 PM

Fuck I need to find a new source of income, this clickbot will only work for so much longer

**whee** · 03-23-2004, 02:18 PM

**WiredGuy** · 03-23-2004, 02:20 PM

Originally posted by DarkJedi
it's no secret. google's entire source of revenue was the fucking adsense garbage and it just blew up in their faces.

Adsense makes up a small percentage of Google's income. Licensing their SE results to other portals and adwords makes up a majority.

WG

**fuzebox** · 03-23-2004, 02:24 PM

I used to promote a lot of pharma with adwords... Had to stop because of assholes hitbotting my links and costing me tons of money every day

**DarkJedi** · 03-23-2004, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Adsense makes up a small percentage of Google's income. Licensing their SE results to other portals and adwords makes up a majority.

WG

Adsense/Adwords = google is #1 source of income.

**<IMX>** · 03-23-2004, 02:31 PM

right..... i wonder how long it will take for the soft to show up on kazaa.

Bradley was released on $50,000 bail, on the condition that he has no contact with his computer or Google

**slackologist** · 03-23-2004, 02:38 PM

can't google detect hitbots? i thought some cj scripts could do that.

**kush** · 03-23-2004, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Adsense makes up a small percentage of Google's income. Licensing their SE results to other portals and adwords makes up a majority.

WG

A "small percentage," yeah, right.

**mrthumbs** · 03-23-2004, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by slackologist
can't google detect hitbots? i thought some cj scripts could do that.

send them the link ;)

As a per-click program operator in the past i know its virtually IMPOSSIBLE to build a scam free, fraud proof click engine.

There are a lot ofs routines and tricks you can build in to detect
fraud and it weeds out 98% of the scammers.

Eventually the only way to know if a user is sending real clicks or scamming your program is by checking the conversion ratio/sales.

And with Adsense or any other 3rd party per-click program its
impossible to view actual conversion/sales.

So google is pretty much fucked with adsense.

**WiredGuy** · 03-23-2004, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by DarkJedi
Adsense/Adwords = google is #1 source of income.

Adwords along with licensing makes up the bulk, not adsense. Adsense was just release a few months ago whereas adwords has been around for over a year now.

Link: http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...30114_2858.htm

Advertisers love Google, too. They supply two-thirds of its revenue by purchasing keywords on Google.com and Google's network of affiliates, including America Online.

This was published shortly after adwords was released.
WG

**insanesurfer** · 03-23-2004, 03:26 PM

OMG that guy is so stupid

**jasonir** · 03-23-2004, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by WiredGuy

This was published shortly after adwords was released.
WG

I agree 100%.

Plus, other than the fact that it costs advertisers a lot of money and will make them turn away from using AdWords in the long run, this type of scam does little to hurt Google. I am sure they have some very good mechanisms in place to catch cheaters.

As long as Google reigns king, advertisers don't have a whole lot of options.

**WiredGuy** · 03-23-2004, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by jasonir
As long as Google reigns king, advertisers don't have a whole lot of options.

Yup, speaking only ad buys (not free traffic), Google still has one of the strongest presences in the industry.

WG

**wtfent** · 03-23-2004, 03:37 PM

Thats not googles only stream of income, I would guess it does not even make up for 20% of their revenue.

**404** · 03-23-2004, 04:14 PM

i defecate on spammers and scammers from a very great height

**Dildozer** · 03-23-2004, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by 404
i defecate on spammers and scammers from a very great height

Well said, to think those hitbots could be used to increase TGP trades instead

**bhutocracy** · 03-23-2004, 04:37 PM

has anyone tried software like this? :

http://www.keywordmax.com/click_auditor.html

**Dildozer** · 03-23-2004, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by bhutocracy
has anyone tried software like this? :

http://www.keywordmax.com/click_auditor.html

Looks interesting, just not fond of their business model. Seems a bit too greedy to my taste.

**bhutocracy** · 03-23-2004, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Dildozer

Looks interesting, just not fond of their business model. Seems a bit too greedy to my taste.

yeah.. they're selling a rebadged overture tool for $25.. well with mispellings and a few other things, but the free trial is just overture's tool.. that kinda put me off them.

but it does look interesting.. I wouldn't mind talking to someone who uses one of their products.

**Ludedude** · 03-23-2004, 05:06 PM

Originally posted by mrthumbs
Eventually the only way to know if a user is sending real clicks or scamming your program is by checking the conversion ratio/sales.

So google is pretty much fucked with adsense.

Bah, all they have to do is hire 12clicks. He sniffs out cheaters where no one else can.

**mrthumbs** · 03-23-2004, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Ludedude

Bah, all they have to do is hire 12clicks. He sniffs out cheaters where no one else can.

true.. but who can afford him?

**12clicks** · 03-23-2004, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by mrthumbs

true.. but who can afford him?

true twice,.......................shieeeeeeeeeeet.

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