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  • Bansheelinks
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    • Apr 2003
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    #51
    Originally posted by eroswebmaster
    once again it's a daily barrage in this biz...more ups and downs than a bi-polar crack whore
    Well put.

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    • SleazyDream
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      • Jul 2001
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      #52
      Originally posted by goBigtime



      Technically I don't think they are your members... as far as the transaction goes anyway.
      tell that to revenue canada regarding GST
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      • SetTheWorldonFire
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        #53
        wtf?
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        • Giorgio_Xo
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          • Mar 2003
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          #54
          Ok... so Penthouse owns iBill, Hustler controls Jettis...

          That leaves Playboy buying ??? Epoch?

          That leaves CCBill for everyone else.
          Make Levees, Not War

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          • psyko514
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            #55
            Originally posted by quiet


            for sure.
            Playboy and CCBill? Swank and Epoch?

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            • JulianSosa
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              • Aug 2003
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              #56
              Originally posted by psyko514
              Ibill and Penthouse. Jettis and Hustler. Interesting.
              Not even close.. One ran a succesful processor then took on the online marketing for a know brand name
              the other well you know

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              • psyko514
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                #57
                Originally posted by JulianSosa


                Not even close.. One ran a succesful processor then took on the online marketing for a know brand name
                the other well you know
                Not even close to what?

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                • goBigtime
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                  • Nov 2002
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                  #58
                  I think Lensman gave Penthouse the $700k in order to have the story break on GFY.

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                  • KRL
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                    • Oct 2002
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by quiet


                    for sure.
                    Makes you wonder why Jettis didn't jump all over that deal.
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                    • oldnewbie
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      #60
                      At least Penthouse isn't likely to make Ibill mainstream only and stop accepting adult transactions. That was my biggest worry about the new owner.

                      Now we just have to worry about how stable they are and if they have the resources to run Ibill like it should be.

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                      • psyko514
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                        #61
                        Originally posted by KRL


                        Makes you wonder why Jettis didn't jump all over that deal.
                        I didn't think about that...

                        Then again, I don't use either, so I don't really need to think about that

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                        • Sosa
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                          • Oct 2002
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                          #62
                          crazy shit...

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                          • JulianSosa
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                            #63
                            Originally posted by psyko514


                            Not even close to what?

                            Jettis and Co. running Hustlers sites is not even close to Penthouse buying Ibill.

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                            • johnbosh
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                              • Aug 2002
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                              #64
                              no

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                              • psyko514
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                                #65
                                Originally posted by JulianSosa



                                Jettis and Co. running Hustlers sites is not even close to Penthouse buying Ibill.
                                I wasn't comparing their operations. I was simply stating that I find it interesting that these large processors have relations with large porn mags.

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                                • psyko514
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by johnbosh
                                  no
                                  hey you.

                                  fuck off.

                                  eat a dick and die.

                                  someone should report you to TCG for being the net's worst sig whore.

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                                  • JulianSosa
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                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by psyko514


                                    I wasn't comparing their operations. I was simply stating that I find it interesting that these large processors have relations with large porn mags.
                                    OK sorry I am sad I still have some Ibill members,

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                                    • Living For Today
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                                      • Feb 2002
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                                      #68
                                      maybe ibill will be seen as a better solution now.

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                                      • alan-l
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                                        • May 2003
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                                        #69
                                        be ready for some big movement this year. The times for amateurs and lil boys are coming to an end, this doesn't end with Hustler and Penthouse, nor doesn't ends here

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                                        • SleazyDream
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                                          • Jul 2001
                                          • 41470

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by KRL


                                          Makes you wonder why Jettis didn't jump all over that deal.
                                          no kidding. (or ccbill or epoch for that matter)
                                          This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                          Now read without the word dog.

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                                          • JulianSosa
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                                            • Aug 2003
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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by alan-l
                                            be ready for some big movement this year. The times for amateurs and lil boys are coming to an end, this doesn't end with Hustler and Penthouse, nor doesn't ends here
                                            Wendys?

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                                            • pimplink
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                                              #72
                                              that is just so bad.....

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                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                #73
                                                Holy fuck...

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                                                • xxxdesign-net
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                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 10129

                                                  #74
                                                  so who predicted something big would happen in March with Ibill.... !?

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                                                  • Mr.Fiction
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                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by KRL


                                                    Makes you wonder why Jettis didn't jump all over that deal.
                                                    Maybe they didn't want $20,000,000 in extra debt?
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                                                    • Axeman
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                                                      #76
                                                      I just hope they get more stable and focus on the needs of the adult web more that they got sold.
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                                                      • beemk
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                                                        • Jan 2002
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                                                        #77
                                                        damn thats huge news, oh well... i dont even promote any ibill spnosors
                                                        I host with Vacares

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                                                        • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 30307

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                          so who predicted something big would happen in March with Ibill.... !?
                                                          I thought somthing with processing was gonna happen in April...
                                                          But this is the net...

                                                          Horse shoes and hand granades don't count here

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                                                          • quiet
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                                                            • Sep 2001
                                                            • 25115

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by oldnewbie
                                                            At least Penthouse isn't likely to make Ibill mainstream only and stop accepting adult transactions. That was my biggest worry about the new owner.

                                                            Now we just have to worry about how stable they are and if they have the resources to run Ibill like it should be.
                                                            it will be very interesting to see what happens in the next couple of months. definitely a plus, is that adult is not going anywhere over at iBill with this sale. it's the rest of the equation that's uncertain...
                                                            we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 52942

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by quiet


                                                              it will be very interesting to see what happens in the next couple of months. definitely a plus, is that adult is not going anywhere over at iBill with this sale. it's the rest of the equation that's uncertain...
                                                              Very true.

                                                              We can all speculate, but what we know is that an Adult orientated company has taken over a CC processor. Whether they can try to force out others to cut down competition, run it properly, use the client info as a spam list, etc. is all guess work. The future will tell us, but it might be good to spread your processors.



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                                                              • Alex Xe

                                                                #81
                                                                Playboy buy Ibill....i do not think soo....

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                                                                • WiredGuy
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 34515

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by SleazyDream
                                                                  tell that to revenue canada regarding GST
                                                                  Don't you just love CCRA
                                                                  WG
                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                  • quiet
                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                                    • 25115

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by WiredGuy


                                                                    Don't you just love CCRA
                                                                    WG
                                                                    makes me ill. literally.
                                                                    we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                    • playa
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                                                                      #84
                                                                      didn't penthouse go bankrupt awhile back?

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                                                                      • psyko514
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        me --> <-- ccra
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                                                                        • psyko514
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by playa
                                                                          didn't penthouse go bankrupt awhile back?
                                                                          didn't someone post an answer to that question awhile back?

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                                                                          • WiredGuy
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                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by quiet
                                                                            makes me ill. literally.
                                                                            Same here, still fighting that audit. Although I'm sure you have it worst because you actually run a paysite. I can't believe they're still hastling me to collect GST from US based sponsors.

                                                                            WG
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                                                                            • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 30307

                                                                              #88
                                                                              "We can all speculate, but what we know is that an Adult orientated company has taken over a CC processor. Whether they can try to force out others to cut down competition, run it properly, use the client info as a spam list, etc. is all guess work. The future will tell us, but it might be good to spread your processors."

                                                                              Looks like a good time to go into Processing if ya ask me...

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                                                                              • makefuckingmoney
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                                                                                • Oct 2003
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                                                                                #89
                                                                                id trust my biz with ken lawson any day of the week..

                                                                                ibill...no thanks..

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                                                                                • Dravyk
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                                                                                  • Jan 2001
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Let's see folded a once major magazine, while Hustler and Playboy are flourishimg in video, cable, stores and the Net.

                                                                                  Tried twice (or was it three times? twice for certain) to create a successful affiliate program and couldn't.

                                                                                  Oh yeah, this is a good sale! ... All they need now is to hire former GloBill exces for finance, Crescent to handle traffic counts, and Steve Goldman to head up webmaster relations!
                                                                                  All Of 'Em

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                                                                                  • mardigras
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                                                                                    • Feb 2003
                                                                                    • 14194

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by psyko514


                                                                                    didn't someone post an answer to that question awhile back?
                                                                                    Yes, but few read past the post they were responding to around here and they'll likely ask the question again in another thread
                                                                                    .

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                                                                                    • quiet
                                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP
                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                      • 25115

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      friendly bump
                                                                                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                                                                                      • chowda
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                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        hey quiet, post ur sexy stats!
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                                                                                        • mmaisonet
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Looks like a good time to go into Processing if ya ask me...
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                                                                                          • SoundMan
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                                                                                            • Nov 2003
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Dravyk
                                                                                            Oh yeah, this is a good sale! ... All they need now is to hire former GloBill exces for finance, Crescent to handle traffic counts, and Steve Goldman to head up webmaster relations!

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                                                                                            • SoundMan
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                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 3471

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Imagine Netbilling doing full 3rd party ?

                                                                                              at lower rates..

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                                                                                              • scoreman
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                                                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                                                • 1491

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                iBill officially loves porn again.

                                                                                                Just to clarify for some of the posters on this thread, Penthouse International bought iBill, not General Media. General Media is the bankrupt portion of Penthouse that is struggling. PH Int'l has significant financial backing. There is separation between the companies as well as the new created LLC that iBill occupies. Future financial problems with General Media will not allow creditors to come knocking on either the LLC or PH Int'l for satisfaction of any debts.

                                                                                                From what I have been told John Perry and his cronies got the boot before the ink even dried on the contracts. Maybe we should start a donation thread for him, I'm sure his Paypal would just overheat with sympathetic pledges from this audience.

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                                                                                                • goBigtime
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dravyk
                                                                                                  Let's see folded a once major magazine, while Hustler and Playboy are flourishimg in video, cable, stores and the Net.
                                                                                                  Penthouse now has the contact information and legal right to contact:

                                                                                                  * Paysite owners
                                                                                                  * Your Affiliates / Webmasters
                                                                                                  * Millions of subscribers

                                                                                                  ....From the ex-#1 adult billing processor in the world.

                                                                                                  One way or another, I think they are about to give Playboy & Hustler a real run for their money.


                                                                                                  The question is are they really doing this to be in the processing game?
                                                                                                  And if so... are they going to be aggressive about building up market share?
                                                                                                  Last edited by goBigtime; 03-23-2004, 07:42 AM.

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                                                                                                  • scoreman
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                                                                                                    • Nov 2001
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                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    The day that Penthouse contacts our members through the subscription lists is the day we take our business elsewhere. iBill understands this and they also know that we (and just about every program doing volume) seed our lists on a regular basis to keep informed as to who has our lists. They would be fools to let PH Internet mine the iBill databases. I'm not saying it wont happen, just that the management at iBill is well aware of the fallout of such a thing happening.

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                                                                                                    • cool1
                                                                                                      sex is good
                                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                                      • 24939

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      It all sounds very interesting
                                                                                                      I wonder where it will all lead.

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