What does our National Security Advisor have to do with Chevron...

looks like they quietly changed the name of it though.
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wonder why?

http://multinationalmonitor.org/mm20...ne01names.html

Did you take a look at the new insider book about Bush Administrations reaction to 9/11??? Its nuts. Richard A. Clarke, Bush's former counterterrorism director and 10 year top white house aide just rips him a new one in a book that just came out.

I hope this is the beginning of the snowball that puts this fucker out of power.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...on/whbriefing/

this is why I started looking up info on Rice.

Shen is a fucking traitor to this country.

Some fucking Board sitter for Chevron now sits and helps run my country and negating what long term Counter Terrorism specialists says?

She is saying Clarke never sent her a memo calling for more actions.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/22/bush.clarke/

Yeah! You know how those African-American's are! They ALL have their damn hands in the oil cookie jar. It's all part of that massive african female right wing conspiracy to take over the world through control of the oil industry.



















How OLD are you guys? 20? Do you have no memory of EVERY ADMINISTRATION FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS?

For gods sake! Over 100 people went to jail from the Clinton administration for taking money from potential enemy foreign goverments, (like China and N Korea), in exchange for U.S. military technology.

There is nothing new here people!

SO who voted for thisdumb bitch?

And im 27, didnt really take part in anything or gave a fuck about politics when Clinton was here.

I was in college trying to get an education instead of getting wrapped up in this nonsense.

Hell.....come to think of it....Kerry takes more money from corporations than ANY OTHER SENATOR.


Some of you people really need to expand your horizons and try reading something that doesn't already go along with your pre-consieved notions.

What should I read then?

Please enlighten me.

I like to see a black woman fucking over people and getting her money. At least it's a change in pace.

Maybe she needs a boyfriend?

uhhhh.....just a heads up. She was a politcal appointment, just like every national security advisor in history, and just like 98% of all of the administrations people.......we vote for the leaders, not the staff....

The Bush Family have been the major shareholders of Zapata Oil for over 40 years.

Since its inception this country has been run by wealthy special interest groups.

Nothing new here Fletch.

That fact that we only have 2 real choices for President says it all.

There is no distinction between either party, they are just fronts for wealthy corporations and individuals.

I am just trying to figure out.

Why would Bush appoint a Chevron Board sitter to be the United States of Americas "Natuional Security Advisor"

what does this woman know?

What are her credentials?

Id say she is nothing more than a bought pawn in here, has no real job and is jus there to "deny" any allegations made towards "National Security"

this is why I dont get involved in this crap.

You people "accept" things, id rather see her...

[Talking]
The new age is upon us
And yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave
For those who hide behind the false image of the son of man
shall stand before God!!! It has begun
The beginning of the end
Yeah..
Yeah... yeah, yeah

[Verse 1]
The voice of racism preaching the gospel is devilish
A fake church called the prophet Muhammad a terrorist
Forgetting God is not a religion, but a spiritual bond
And Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Qu'ran
They bombed innocent people, tryin' to murder Saddam
When you gave him those chemical weapons to go to war with Iran
This is the information that they hold back from Peter Jennings
Cause Condoleeza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings
I break it down with critical language and spiritual anguish
The Judas I hang with, the guilt of betraying Christ
You murdered and stole his religion, and painting him white
Translated in psychologically tainted philosophy
Conservative political right wing, ideology
Glued together sloppily, the blasphemy of a nation
Got my back to the wall, cause I'm facin' assassination
Guantanamo Bay, federal incarceration
How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
Human rights violations, we continue the saga
El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
And on top of that, you still wanna take me to prison
Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism

[Hook]
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They wanna rearrange the whole point of view of the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Read about the history of the place that we live in
And stop letting corporate news tell lies to your children

[Verse 2]
Flow like the blood of Abraham through the Jews and the Arabs
Broken apart like a woman's heart, abused in a marriage
The brink of holy war, bottled up, like a miscarriage
hahahahahaded correspondents don't tell the source of the tension
And they refuse to even mention, European intervention
Or the massacres in Jenin, the innocent screams
U.S. manufactured missles, and M-16's
Weapon contracts and corrupted American dreams
Media censorship, blocking out the video screens
A continent of oil kingdoms, bought for a bargain
Democracy is just a word, when the people are starvin'
The average citizen, made to be, blind to the reason
A desert full of genocide, where the bodies are freezin'
And the world doesn't believe that you fightin' for freedom
Cause you fucked the Middle East, and gave birth to a demon
It's open season with the CIA, bugging my crib
Trapped in a ghetto region like a Palestinian kid
Where nobody gives a fuck whether you die or you live
I'm tryin' to give the truth, and I know the price is my life
But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade
Like a fallen angel standing in the presence of God
Bitch niggaz scared of the truth, when it looks at you hard

[Hook]
It's like MK-ULTRA, controlling your brain
Suggestive thinking, causing your perspective to change
They wanna rearrange the whole point of view in the ghetto
The fourth branch of the government, want us to settle
A bandana full of glittering, generality
Fighting for freedom and fighting terror, but what's reality?
Martial law is coming soon to the hood, to kill you
While you hanging your flag out your project window

[Talking]
Yeah..
The fourth branch of the government AKA the media
Seems to now have a retirement plan for ex-military officials
As if their opinion was at all unbiased
A machine shouldn't speak for men
So shut the fuck up you mindless drone!
And you know it's serious
When these same media outfits are spending millions of dollars on a PR campaign
To try to convince you they're fair and balanced
When they're some of the most ignorant, and racist people
Giving that type of mentality a safe haven
We act like we share in the spoils of war that they do
We die in wars, we don't get the contracts to make money off 'em afterwards!
We don't get weapons contracts, nigga!
We don't get cheap labor for our companies, nigga!
We are cheap labor, nigga!
Turn off the news and read, nigga!
Read... read... read...




- Immortal Technique, The 4th Branch.

Why does everyone just accept this?

I just dont get it.

I am beginning to despise my own country, because its filled with nothing but lazy bastards who sit back and know the truth, but are too fucking weak to do anything.

I like Dean's idea....

Start getting real people to run for various offices - from the school board to the president of the US - rather than corporate owned "professional politicians" that we have now.

The whole reason Dean blew up in the first place was because of his views and the movement/following on the internet.... but as soon as he started talking about busting up the media conglomerates (wtf was he thinking??), those media conglomerates blackballed him & started referring to him as the ex-frontrunner (while he was still the front runner).

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/


If Americans wont get involved in the processes that give us our freedom and liberties (beyond watching what the TV news tells us is going on daily), then I guess we deserve to be corporate slaves... I'm sure that's how they see it anyway.

http://www.getmoneyquick.info/10-imm...branch-cms.mp3

damn, nice.

"How could this be, the land of the free, home of the brave?
Indigenous holocaust, and the home of the slaves
Corporate America, dancin' offbeat to the rhythm
You really think this country, never sponsored terrorism?
Human rights violations, we continue the saga
El Savador and the contras in Nicaragua
And on top of that, you still wanna take me to prison
Just cause I won't trade humanity for patriotism."

Hey fletch, I have been trying to reach you.... did you get my e-mail?

I was out over the weekend.

I have plenty mail to go through.

I had not replied to any yet.

cool, just anted to make sure you recieved it, some people had trouble recieving it, and I had to send it to an alternate e-mail, don't know if it was from my end, or if the spam filters took it or what.... look forward to talking with you soon.

nah, I got it, I just replied.

;)

You like your car?
Do you drive it?
Does it have a gas tank?
Does the gas station [you fill up at] have a bigger gas tank?
What organizations ensure the gas station's (oil company) bigger gas tank keeps full?

Do you have auto manufacturing companies in your city?
Do they need oil/fuel?

If you don't want to use a car and you don't want factories to operate then by all
means go put on a tie-die T-shirt and paint yourself a nice protest sign and go bitch
about Condoleezza Rice and where she use to work etc. If she was employed and carried
such a high and powerful position then you'd think that qualifies her for a powerful
position in the government.

If you like your car and enjoy the benefits of the free world then shut your yap and
hope to hell the fuel keeps flowing. If you haven't the balls to enlist in the military
to be one of the actual front line defenders and aggressors in the war to be in control
of everything your country desires, then enjoy your HBO and the bars where you pick
up the whores who suck your dick.

Our government fights every day to keep the shit we have and you should be damn grateful
you don't have to lift one fucking finger in that fight. Instead, a lot of you go to New York
and march around bitching about bringing soldiers home so they can watch HBO and get
their dicks sucked as well. So if everyone is at home watching HBO and getting their
dicks sucked then who is on the front line keeping the gas tanks full?

Most of you are all a bunch of hypocrites. Bitch, bitch, bitch, and keep my gas tank full
while I bitch. Perhaps you'd like to live in a shit-hole country like Afghanistan where you
can fight the USA and it's agenda.

You should wake up every morning and thank the powers that be that you live in a
country were you can bitch at the administration and not get your feet beaten.

Lot's of bitching about the USA but I don't see anyone moving out of the country they
say they hate so much. If you really did believe in your senseless rhetoric you'd move
out of this country you say is so fucked up and go to France or Spain or some other
cowardly nation.

be glad you are still allowed to vote.

obviously a very UNEDUCATED

learn about "peak oil" then come at me with your "if you enjoy your car" dribble

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Hello Chicken-Little. The sky is not falling.

As I expected, very uneducated, and illiterate.

From the first page.

"So who are these nay-sayers who claim the sky is falling? Conspiracy fanatics? Apocalypse Bible prophesy readers? To the contrary, they are some of the most respected, highest paid geologists and experts in the world. And this is what's so scary.

The situation is so dire that even George W. Bush's Energy Adviser, Matthew Simmons, has acknowledged that "The situation is desperate. This is the world's biggest serious question."

According to Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham, "America faces a major energy supply crisis over the next two decades. The failure to meet this challenge will threaten our nation's economic prosperity, compromise our national security, and literally alter the way we lead our lives."

you believe these same people when they talk about war, but not when they talk about Peak Oil.

go figure.

you are completely clueless.

Even Bush advisors have admitted this crisis, yet you pick and choose which ones you believe, I guess RUmsfeld, and Powell, are smarter than scientists whos job it is to look over these things for America.

get a clue traitor.
this is not being made up, its scientific fact Oil runs on a curve.

learn before you speak idiot.

http://www.americanassembler.com/iss.../peak_oil.html

FletchXXX--

Condi Rice maybe tied to special interests, but she is extremely well qualified...

She could have tenure at damn near any University she wished in the world in her speciality of Cold War studies, and speaks fluent Russian.

Once you get that far to the top of society each person is likely to be tied to some special interest group either large business, banking, consulting or law. They are also bound to have friends who are well connected on the basis of organizations, schools etc...

It isn't realistic for successful people to unconnected to various upper elements of society.

Of course she is, she has studied more about the Soviet and Europe than the US.

Ive read her bio.

She wants to live in a communist society, I can see that.

But she has ties to the oil industry.
Oh yeah, I'm sure the speciality in cold war studies and speaking Russian are quite important nowadays.

heres quotes from Exxon Wilber.

who should I believe Exxon oil people or some guy named wilber on a message board?

"The energy industry has quietly acknowledged the seriousness of the situation. For instance, the president of Exxon Mobil Exploration Company, Jon Thompson, recently stated:

By 2015, we will need to find, develop and produce a volume of new oil and gas that is equal to eight out of every 10 barrels being produced today. In addition, the cost associated with providing this additional oil and gas is expected to be considerably more than what industry is now spending.

Equally daunting is the fact that many of the most promising prospects are far from major markets ? some in regions that lack even basic infrastructure. Others are in extreme climates, such as the Arctic, that present extraordinary technical challenges.

If Mr. Thompson is that frank in an article posted on the Exxon Mobil webpage, you have to wonder what he says behind closed days when he talks about oil depletion. "

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/PageOne.html

stick to calling scientists idiots.

you can backtrack all you want.

you proved you have no clue about what you speak of.

you go from being proven wrong to posting pics in a matter of minutes.

too easy

At this point in the game it's the lesser of 2 evils with Kerry...sure he takes more money than any senator, but let's look at where he takes money from, and what decisions he makes based on that. Bush takes money from crooks, and then makes decisions that affect everyone in the country based on these crooks wishes. (read the article in the latest Rolling Stone about how and where Bush got most of his campaign money...fucking scary shit!)

Next up, the point here is not that anyone is questioning what past admins have done...it's what this one has done. Saying 'everyone does that' is fucking lame. Bottom line is: Bush attacked Iraq when he should have been weeding out terrorists...and the reasons for this are starting to finally come out.

Oh, and Condi Rice's lame ass is there b/c of her ties to oil, but mostly b/c Bush needed a woman in a high position. You know how hard it is to find a woman qualified for that high a position that is so conservative?

I know, I read her quotes of her being glad her parents raised her to be more white. So she could overcome white society. She took French and classical music studies

some funny shit to read.

As if her parents knew if she was "too black" shed never get anywhere.

so they sent her off to learn like the white people.

thats what she said along those lines anyway.

"So I could be prepared for white society."

Stop it already. Bush is a holly man. He prays for half an hour in the morning before taking breakfast with his wife

Even blacks call Rice "race traiotor."

she is not black.

http://www.blackcommentator.com/26/26_commentary.html

You are making a pretty broad insinuation about Condi's qualifications in regards to the study of modern American political history / foriegn policy.

It hard to say whether she has studied Europe and U.S.S.R more than studying the overall impact of Cold War policy on the two major powers. given the nature of the discipline, you study the interaction between countries.

Most Cold War scholars study both sides--The U.S. and the U.S.S.R. from the end of WWII to the Beginning of the first Bush Administration.

In addition most major cold war scholars say that she is the dog's bollocks.

I'd say that along with her level of achievement makes her uniquely well-qualified for her current position.

Also here is a better picture of some the companies/non-profit organizations she has served with

QUOTE]She was a member of the boards of directors for
the Chevron Corporation,
the Charles Schwab Corporation,
the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation,
the University of Notre Dame,
the International Advisory Council of J.P. Morgan and
the San Francisco Symphony Board of Governors. She was a Founding Board member of the Center for a New Generation, an educational support fund for schools in East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park, California and was Vice President of the Boys and Girls Club of the Peninsula. In addition, her past board service has encompassed such organizations as Transamerica Corporation, Hewlett Packard, the Carnegie Corporation, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, The Rand Corporation, the National Council for Soviet and East European Studies, the Mid-Peninsula Urban Coalition and KQED, public broadcasting for San Francisco.[/QUOTE]

But you read her bio, so you know this already.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/ricebio.html

If you want to pick on ties to oil pick on the Bush family. It works better.



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that looks good on paper.

But what would you say, if she was said to have been placed where she is to deflect black anger towards Bush and his "long time planned actions against affirmative action in higher education."

Does it still taste the same to know she is a traitor to blacks of america?

"Rice's special assignment, far removed from her training as a Sovietologist and her National Security job description, was to deflect Black anger when George Bush launched his long-planned assault on affirmative action in higher education.

Rice was more than willing, having logged 18 years service to the Bush family. However, the crude racists of Bush's inner circle betrayed Rice and Bush from the start. They had railed against "reverse discrimination" their entire political lives, and were incapable of finessing the issue or understanding the sensitive nature of Rice's mission."

if I were you, I would not support this piece of shit.

She is loyal to Bush not black people.

I read this one, but same shit i guess

http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/crbio.htm

Get the CD's... you'll be listening for 2 weeks straight.

The trouble with people like you is your blindly believe your own senseless rhetoric.
It's not possible to have a conversation with a monkey-hear-no-evil.

My senseless rhetoric?

I am quoting people who work for Amoco, Exxon, and scientific energy advisors for the US, and you call it senseless rhetoric.

too funny.

here is more SENSELESS RHETORIC you ifnorant piece of shit.

before you read his quote, here is his BIO.

"Colin J. Campbell

After finishing a Ph.D. in geology at Oxford University, C. J. Campbell joined Texaco in 1958 as an exploration geologist in South America, later moving to BP with assignments in Colombia, Australia, and Papua. In 1968, he joined Amoco in New York as regional geologist for Latin America, becoming Chief GeologistS in Ecuador in 1969. With the opening of the North Sea, he returned to England in 1972 as General Manager of the Texas independent Shenandoah Oil Corporation, before rejoining Amoco to become Exploration Manager in Norway in 1980. In 1985, he was appointed Executive Vice-President of Fina in Norway. He is now a petroleum consultant and has had commissions from the Norwegian Petroleum Directorate; Bulgarian government; European Commission; Amoco; Shell; Esso; Amerada; Mobil; and others. He specializes in oil resource assessment, having published and spoken widely. His book ?The Golden Century of Oil? was published by Kluwer in 1991, and ?The Coming Oil Crisis? by Multi-Science Publishing Co. in August 1997. He has co-authored several major studies on world reserves of oil and gas and their depletion for Petroconsultants as based on their authoritative data."

his quote on Peak Oil and the coming disaster.

"We already are [feeling the effects of dwindling oil supplies] in the form of the threatened U.S. invasion of the Middle East. The U.S. would be importing 90 percent of its oil by 2020 to hold even current demand and access to foreign oil has long been officially declared a vital national interest justifying military intervention. Probable actual physical shortage of all liquid hydrocarbons worldwide won't appear for about 20 years, especially if deepening recession holds down demand. But people are coming to appreciate that peak is imminent and what it means. Some places like the U.S. will face shortage sooner than others. The price is likely to soar as shortage looms, which itself may delay peak.

If the U.S. does invade there will likely be a repeat of Vietnam with many years of fruitless struggle in which the U.S. will be seen as a tyrant and an oppressor, killing all those Arabs. It can't hope to subjugate the place in perpetuity as the people don't surrender easily -- as the Palestinians have shown. So when the U.S. has finally gone, Russia and China will likely be welcomed there to produce whatever is left in the ruins.""

its amazing that some highschool drop out like you can sit on a board and call these people senseless.

his whole career has spanned over oil, and know YOU are the expert?

gimme a break drop out

http://www.austinev.org/evalbum/266.html


I guess according to your logic, Cheney no longer works for Haliburton... and btw, Condoleezza Rice DOES HAVE a high position in the government.

Agreed.

That happens when gfy'rs plagarize their positions from op-ed sections of fringe Internet publications.

Let me get 12click's on them

Hey Budz post "The Cause of Death" for Fletch if you got it

(Budz originally turned me on to Immortal Technique btw)

"The Cause of Death"

[Talking]
Immortal Technique
Revolutionary Volume 2
Yeah, broadcasting live from Harlem, New York
Let the truth be known..

[Verse 1]
You better watch what the fuck flies outta ya mouth
Or I'ma hijack a plane and fly it into your house
Burn your apartment with your family tied to the couch
And slit your throat, so when you scream, only blood comes out
I doubt that there could ever be...a more wicked MC
'Cuz AIDs infested child molesters aren't sicker than me
I see the world for what it is, beyond the white and the black
The way the government downplays historical facts
'Cuz the United States sponsored the rise of the 3rd Reich
Just like the CIA trained terrorists to the fight
Build bombs and sneak box cutters onto a flight
When I was a child, the Devil himself bought me a mic
But I refused the offer, 'cuz God sent me to strike
With skills unused like fallopian tubes on a dyke
My words'll expose George Bush and Bin Laden
As two separate parts of the same seven headed dragon
And you can't fathom the truth, so you don't hear me
You think illuminati's just a fuckin conspiracy theory?
That's why Conservative racists are all runnin' shit
And your phone is tapped by the Federal Government
So I'm jammin' frequencies in ya brain when you speak to me
Technique will rip a rapper to pieces indecently
Pack weapons illegally, because I'm never hesitant
Sniper scoping a commission controllin the president

[Hook]
Father, forgive them, for they don't know right from wrong
The truth will set you free, written down in this song
And the song has the Cause of Death written in code
The Word of God brought to life, that'll save ya soul..

Save ya soul motherfucker...save ya soul..

Yeah, yeah, yeah

[Verse 2]
I hacked the Pentagon for self-incriminating evidence
Of Republican manufactured white powder pestilence
Marines Corps. flat (?) vest, with the guns and ammo
Spittin' bars like a demon stuck inside a piano
Turn a Sambo into a soldier with just one line
Now here's the truth about the system that'll fuck up your mind
They gave Al Queda 6 billion dollars in 1989 to 1992
And now the last chapters of Revelations are coming true
And I know a lot of people find it hard to swallow this
Because subliminal bigotry makes you hate my politics



But you act like America wouldn't destroy two buildings
In a country that was sponsoring bombs dropped on our children
I was watching the Towers, and though I wasn't the closest
I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives
And they thought nobody noticed the news report that they did
About the bombs planted on the George Washington bridge
Four Non-Arabs arrested during the emergency
And then it disappeared from the news permanently
They dubbed a tape of Osama, and they said it was proof
"Jealous of our freedom," I can't believe you bought that excuse
Rockin a motherfucking flag don't make you a hero
Word to Ground Zero
The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th
The New World Order was born on September 11

[Hook]

[Verse 3]
And just so Conservatives don't take it to heart
I don't think Bush did it, 'cuz he isn't that smart
He's just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cell phone
From the same people that sabotaged Senator Wellstone
The military industry got it poppin' and lockin'
Looking for a way to justify the Wolfowitz Doctrine
And as a matter of fact, Rumsfeld, now that I think back
Without 9/11, you couldn't have a war in Iraq
Or a Defense budget of world conquest proportions
Kill freedom of speech and revoke the right to abortions
Tax cut extortion, a blessing to the wealthy and wicked
But you still have to answer to the Armageddon you scripted
And Dick Cheney, you fuckin leech, tell them your plans
About building your pipelines through Afghanistan
And how Israeli troops trained the Taliban in Pakistan
You might have some house niggaz fooled, but I understand
Colonialism is sponsored by corporations
That's why Halliburton gets paid to rebuild nations
Tell me the truth, I don't scare into paralysis
I know the CIA saw Bin Laden on dialysis
In '98 when he was Top Ten for the FBI
Government ties is really why the Government lies
Read it yourself instead of asking the Government why
'Cuz then the Cause of Death will cause the propaganda to die..

[Man talking]
He is scheduled for 60 Minutes next. He is going on
French, Italian, Japanese television. People
everywhere are starting to listen to him. It's embarassing

Educated people call that a "stool sample".

I took the first .mp3 down..

here goes the other one :

http://www.getmoneyquick.info/13-imm..._death-cms.mp3



http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml





lol,.. here u go
http://groups.msn.com/GovernmentCons...62856652447145

Educated people would debate the facts in the quotes I posted and not quote the things I call you ;)

anyway, i have nothing more to say here.

I posted facts, you quote me with troll like finger pointing.

you remind me of 12clicks, posting just to see yourself post.

Learn how to post facts or dont bother trying to share an opinion or debate because you are incapable of either.