Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
Florida is their next target probably.
Florida is their next target probably.
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9/11Originally posted by asuna
talkers talk, doers do
Bali
Spain
and a few other minor ones
how many 'do's' do you want?Left intentionally blank ... just like my brainComment
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nah, nah, nah . . . . . you have NASA and Cape Canaveral there . . . FL makes a much better target.Originally posted by KRL
My money is on LA. That is the center of the entertainment industry and creator of all the Western culture influences the Islamics despise so much.
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sorry but you're misinformed - #2 was never there - and they were saying that as long ago as yesterday.Originally posted by sumphatpimp
in a word
Bullshit !
all this crap is so secret but its in the papers everyday.
wtf ?
they were about to capture this second in command dude?
WFT happened ?
this is really begining to look like
Three Stooges Production
The Pakistani's have cleaned up the resistance and gone home.
#2 is still out there and I doubt that he will ever be caught.Left intentionally blank ... just like my brainComment
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from the pics I have seen, it looks like they already are in the Stone Age. . . .or not very long of a tripOriginally posted by latinasojourn
if they detonate a nuclear devise they can look forward to any areas they habituate taken back to the stone age.
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Scary shit hey.
I reckon if the terrorist attacks get much further out of hand we might see some land wars to try and curb this shit at it's source.icq: 22005948Comment
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You're showing your age ;)Originally posted by baddog
Cape CanaveralArguing whether the Democratic or Republican party is better is like debating which steaming pile of shit is slightly less stinky.Comment
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People see the word nuclear and automatically think death and destruction on an ultimate level.
There's a difference between these and a modern thermonuclear bomb.
What are we looking at for a suitcase bomb? Damage area of about 1 mile?Comment
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I think i agree, if they really want to attack "western excess" LA would be a perfect target.Originally posted by KRL
I doubt they'd do Florida. Its too spread out and there are hardly any skyscrapers.
My money is on LA. That is the center of the entertainment industry and creator of all the Western culture influences the Islamics despise so much.
On the other hand, the easier target might end up being the one that takes the hit, while the tougher targets are countered.
I'm guessing if there was another attack planned it would be multi-headed. ( Just like 9-11-01 where they managed 2/3 targets - as unfortunate as that sounds and the many lives lost regardless of their 'success', it's the reality.)Comment
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I thought they changed it back to that after Cape KennedyOriginally posted by DTK
You're showing your age ;)Comment
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It's not a political situation, it's a (holy) war. They are not in this to bargain, they are in it to kill.Originally posted by Joesho
No nukes, if so , you could bet one would have went off somewhere already to let us know for sure they got em....
The only purpose they have for using the bombs is to kill, I don't think that letting one off to 'scare' people or whatever is something they're interested in, i also think it's something that would damage their success in any actual planned attacks.Comment
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They'd better not set any of those off because I'd hate to see a big drop in signups.Comment
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start registering those mutant porn domains now. (bad taste)Originally posted by Slick
They'd better not set any of those off because I'd hate to see a big drop in signups.Comment
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A bombing at Cape Canaveral wouldn't be the type of target they would be after.. unless it was one of the many cruise ships.. Which IMO could be a very real target.. They had a pretty good sucess when bombing the US military ship in Yemen. So a big cruise ship would be an inviting target with little protection out in the ocean.Originally posted by baddog
nah, nah, nah . . . . . you have NASA and Cape Canaveral there . . . FL makes a much better target.
Far as the nukes, I belive AQ has already admitted their plan if they came across a nuke.. It would be taken to Iseral and set off ASAP. Of couse they could have changed that plan.. but I think they know it would have more of a chance at sucess than a nuke in the US... but it just depends on their current thinking I guess..In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Yeah, but don't forget LA is one of the most de-centralised cities - take a look at the pop per square mile. In terms of "inner area" ie the dense core you'd want to obliterate as a terrorist LA is like 13,000 people per sqare mile vs New York's 67,000 - thats a massive difference when you only have a small bomb.. depends on how much bang for the buck they want... 5 times the death would be hard to ignore.. unless of course they detonate half a dozen simultaneuously.Originally posted by KRL
I doubt they'd do Florida. Its too spread out and there are hardly any skyscrapers.
My money is on LA. That is the center of the entertainment industry and creator of all the Western culture influences the Islamics despise so much.Last edited by bhutocracy; 03-21-2004, 07:17 PM.Comment
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Instead of flying planes into buildings, don't you think they would have used those Nukes? And if they can oragnise to hi-jack all of those planes simultaneously without anyone caring before hand, I think they could have probably snuck those briefcases into one of the many ports in the USA that checks about 1 in 10000 shipments arriving..
Them saying this can probably have just as great of an effect on the people as an actual attack. Or then again it might just be a ploy to get the people scared enuogh again to run back to Bush"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
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It's pretty easy to detect nuclear weapons via the radiation. They don't have to inspect each shipment by hand. There are static radiation sensors in major US cities, as well as people dressed like business men walking around with briefcase radiation sensors.Originally posted by unconnected
Instead of flying planes into buildings, don't you think they would have used those Nukes? And if they can oragnise to hi-jack all of those planes simultaneously without anyone caring before hand, I think they could have probably snuck those briefcases into one of the many ports in the USA that checks about 1 in 10000 shipments arriving..
Them saying this can probably have just as great of an effect on the people as an actual attack. Or then again it might just be a ploy to get the people scared enuogh again to run back to Bush
Nukes don't scare me half as much as biological weapons.Comment
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They lie i don't belive that they have that kind of shitComment
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imagine how much economic damage would occur if they destroyed hoover damn
all of Las Vegas would be useless, along with all of southern nevada, northern arizona and parts of south eastern california. Economic impact would be felt nationwide because of the loss of a major tourist city. Some airlines would likely go bankrupt that are dependant on mass tourism to the vegas area
no point sticking around with no water and most of the electricity gone
would take years to rebuild the damn, the total economic damage would be in the hundreds of billions of dollars easily
i hope its not one of thier targets cause i like living hereComment
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Scary shit
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i love the retards who are more interested in bashing their own government than in dealing with an enemy of certifiably religiously INSANE people who want you and your children dead.
why are you morons in such denial? can't you grasp that these other morons think you and your world is evil and that you should be dead all in the name of pleasing Allah?
the time is upon us to nuke them off this planet before you watch your own friends and family dying slowly of radiation poisoning?
the tragic thing is that these cretons would spend their remaining days blaming Bush for it rather than the truly evil nutcases who actually did the deed.
imagine being that intellectually deficient that you can't see the forest through the trees, that the fact the Bush family had business dealings with the bin Laden family who have nothing to do with their crazy son by the way, somehow is relevant to Osama bin Laden's jihad against America. Sorry my conspiracy theory tard friends, there are people out there with the means and the will to kill you and your children. The plans for 9/11 were well underway long before George Bush became President of the United States. Sorry to burst your bubble but when it comes to Al Qaida it wouldn't matter if George McGovern, Mario Cuomo, Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton or John Kerry is in the White House, Al Qaida doesn't differentiate between 2 sides of the same political coin the way you do.I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment
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All thanks to the government who used to provide textbooks for children to teach them Jihad, Islamism and hate towards the enemy (Soviet Union at the time)Originally posted by Mutt
i love the retards who are more interested in bashing their own government than in dealing with an enemy of certifiably religiously INSANE people who want you and your children dead.
why are you morons in such denial? can't you grasp that these other morons think you and your world is evil and that you should be dead all in the name of pleasing Allah?
Oh I can grasp it alright and more importantly I realise that Bush failed to eliminate them and he even did them a service by increasing there popularity. They're quite famous now and any criminal might imitate them.
Nuke who? The whole planet? There's some of them in every country.the time is upon us to nuke them off this planet before you watch your own friends and family dying slowly of radiation poisoning?Comment
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u put the Arab world on notice that the second after any bomb containing radioactive materials goes off on American soil the first nuke gets sent into any country with relationships to Al Qaeda - which is all of them. So be it Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, they will get the message loud and clear that we are up to their jihad.
They can put an end to Al Qaida alot easier than the Western world can. They just don't want to - well a nuke or two will convince them that it's in their best interest. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and no American civilian innocents were in any immediate peril. It ended a war. It's time to end another war, one that is being waged on American soil with innocents as the target.I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment
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My 2c.
It doesn't really matter how much damage - or how "well" - one of these works in a casualty/damage sense. Look at the reaction created by two guys with high-powered rifles roaming around DC; look at the reaction a few anthrax-laced letters caused. Joke about if you will - when those letters were showing up I wouldn't open any unrecognized mail unless it was outdoors in a stiff breeze pointed away from me. It's psychology.
And I believe they do have them, because as Howard Dean, who has been laughed off the stage too many times for speaking the plain truth when people just want some comfort in the face of all this fear, commented, why didn't the admin put some money into reclaiming ex-Soviet weapons stocks?
I saw the interview with the retired "terrorism czar" tonight - if you didn't, check out the transcripts (cbsnews? can't remember). It's pretty damning stuff.
Maybe everyone can't get along. But a damn sorry way to test that theory is to do exactly as UBL said we would and invade a sovereign Arab country "awash in oil," that posed less threat to the US than mad cow or mosquitoes.
Time for a serious reality check. Right now it's somewhere between unbelievable and Doctor Strangelove on acid.
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Any one with basic military education can point out the historical successes of convential military tactics - no matter how extreme - against a guerilla opponent. Nil. You're drawing conclusions on the assumption these guys are a conventional military operation - they're not, Japan was. The Pakistani army has laid siege for five days against what in all likelihood is Chechen warlord or something like that without success.Originally posted by Mutt
u put the Arab world on notice that the second after any bomb containing radioactive materials goes off on American soil the first nuke gets sent into any country with relationships to Al Qaeda - which is all of them. So be it Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, they will get the message loud and clear that we are up to their jihad.
They can put an end to Al Qaida alot easier than the Western world can. They just don't want to - well a nuke or two will convince them that it's in their best interest. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and no American civilian innocents were in any immediate peril. It ended a war. It's time to end another war, one that is being waged on American soil with innocents as the target.
To do what you suggest would not only polarize moderate Muslims *everywhere* against the US, but completely isolate every European ally including Great Britain. The US is one of two forces in geopolitics that believe in "ultimate sanction" for crimes - the other is the people we're up against.
Not to mention the fact you've chosen to completely blow large portions of fossil fuels - which American much moreso than any other country is dependent on for survival - off of the map.
Not the best strategy.
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You do know that Al-Qaeda is pretty much trying to get rid of all the governments in there? Oh wait, you probably didn't know that.Originally posted by Mutt
u put the Arab world on notice that the second after any bomb containing radioactive materials goes off on American soil the first nuke gets sent into any country with relationships to Al Qaeda - which is all of them. So be it Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, they will get the message loud and clear that we are up to their jihad.
They can put an end to Al Qaida alot easier than the Western world can. They just don't want to - well a nuke or two will convince them that it's in their best interest. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and no American civilian innocents were in any immediate peril. It ended a war. It's time to end another war, one that is being waged on American soil with innocents as the target.
They certainly have more experience dealing with Al-Qaeda though. The idiots in Saudi Arabia and Libya finally stopped using idiotic useless torture on them and have put a reform program in place for the Al-Qaeda members that they arrest. They treat them as if they where members of a sect.
Certainly much more effective than there previous stupid methods of oppression.Comment
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Ever heard of the Mexican border? A true/trained terrorist could surely get a suitcase nuke in to the US.Originally posted by bhutocracy
It's pretty easy to detect nuclear weapons via the radiation. They don't have to inspect each shipment by hand. There are static radiation sensors in major US cities, as well as people dressed like business men walking around with briefcase radiation sensors.
Nukes don't scare me half as much as biological weapons.Comment
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It's amazing how cavailier some of the armchair general's are about "nukes"Originally posted by Mutt
u put the Arab world on notice that the second after any bomb containing radioactive materials goes off on American soil the first nuke gets sent into any country with relationships to Al Qaeda - which is all of them. So be it Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, they will get the message loud and clear that we are up to their jihad.
They can put an end to Al Qaida alot easier than the Western world can. They just don't want to - well a nuke or two will convince them that it's in their best interest. We dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan and no American civilian innocents were in any immediate peril. It ended a war. It's time to end another war, one that is being waged on American soil with innocents as the target.
"We'll just nuke any arab country..." blah blah blah..yeah..that'll get ALL of Al Qaida won't it? NO! You'll have NON-Moslems running to signup with ANY terrorist organization to avenge such a nuclear attack.
And, how are you going to keep the radioactive fallout to STAY only on ARAB lands?
Not to mention that there are a LOT of innocent people in those countries that would be killed. (Did you say "It's time to end another war, one that is being wage on American soil with innocents.."..aren't there also "innocents" in these arab countries?
Time for a reality check here on what Nukes can and CANNOT do.
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And the internet can provide you with such good information from how to cook a cornish game hen to making your OWN a-bomb!
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They have setup radiological detectors in some popular/ possible targets already,Originally posted by Odin88
Ever heard of the Mexican border? A true/trained terrorist could surely get a suitcase nuke in to the US.
it's not like this hasn't been thought of/prepared for.Comment
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sad, but the course we are stearing is leading towards this happening :/
not sure if we can really stop it as far as it's gone now...if they're thinking about getting them ---they will....or already have...
if they have them, they will use them, just when and where is the question now...
crazy thing is we are NOT dealing with a 'state'...so politically, diplomatically and strategically it's a Fuuuuckin nightmare to try to deal with...
if I could be king for a day I'd soak ALL our cash on the state dept & CIA...
1) we MUST defuse the Israel & SW Asia occupation situations
2) we MUST gain support from the Arab world
3) we MUST have solid no-bullshit intell
if we're not doing the above 3 in a highly effective manner, more shit will go down...without a doubt
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it's a scary thing alright, but our country can be just as scary. I worked defense for over a decade, tested and manufactured GLCM's SLCM and ALCM. (tomahawk variances) but what none of you butt wipes knows is that I personally helped in the construction and delivery of 417 stealth class criuse NUCLEAR missles (ACM). early 93/94 our contract was taken by Hughes corp. and work sent to Tuscon, afterwhich colorado where it then dissapeared. I also worked on atlas centaur deepspace bio probes. Those things were awesome. scary just sitting still.
I'm past my non disclosure contract so I can speak about it. I did things that where a blast to do/make/design at the time, never really tthinking about how they'd be used.
I suspect the attack IF there is one will be on a multi front wave.
I don't thnk the suitcase nukes are the worry, as I really dont think Bin laden is as well. They are custom made front men for the masses and the real players seldom show.
I know why that plane was shot down in NY years ago.. it wasn't any gastank problem it was a STA missle. I have a friend in the state department whos a member of the egyptain army. He was in the united Nations building at the time and called us in Calif. to tell my army friend what really happened.
what no one knows, is that america had brought over the elite egyptian army helicopter force to train on a new fleet of Blackhawks we sold them. (black hawks were the shit then) They had spent months here training so they would be hot and ready for a offensive when they returned and recieved their new choppers. What they did wrong was they put ALL the egyptians armies pilots and support staff on that one return flight. This was not a hidden fact to those in the know, and the rest is history. Of course it couldnt be told that we were training them to attack others that were friends of the USA, A lot of money was invloved in this business transaction, and the public was sold a sob story.
I half expect a knock at the door after I hit the send button on this.... this is the first time I have ever repeated it outside of me and my egyptain army captain friend.
You little kids.... you have no idea how corrupt this world really is.
my vote is for attacks on chitown,dallas and SD. SD can be cut off in a blink of the eye.Comment
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Actually, thanks to Bush, we're starting to get an idea.Originally posted by cspdinc
You little kids.... you have no idea how corrupt this world really is.
my vote is for attacks on chitown,dallas and SD. SD can be cut off in a blink of the eye.
Not sure I understand your whole story though.
It'll be a multi front wave but I'm thinking more along the lines of two or more countries at the same time.Last edited by Roger; 03-21-2004, 10:50 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by cspdinc
it's a scary thing alright, but our country can be just as scary. I worked defense for over a decade, tested and manufactured GLCM's SLCM and ALCM. (tomahawk variances) but what none of you butt wipes knows is that I personally helped in the construction and delivery of 417 stealth class criuse NUCLEAR missles (ACM). early 93/94 our contract was taken by Hughes corp. and work sent to Tuscon, afterwhich colorado where it then dissapeared. I also worked on atlas centaur deepspace bio probes. Those things were awesome. scary just sitting still.
I'm past my non disclosure contract so I can speak about it. I did things that where a blast to do/make/design at the time, never really tthinking about how they'd be used.
I suspect the attack IF there is one will be on a multi front wave.
I don't thnk the suitcase nukes are the worry, as I really dont think Bin laden is as well. They are custom made front men for the masses and the real players seldom show.
I know why that plane was shot down in NY years ago.. it wasn't any gastank problem it was a STA missle. I have a friend in the state department whos a member of the egyptain army. He was in the united Nations building at the time and called us in Calif. to tell my army friend what really happened.
what no one knows, is that america had brought over the elite egyptian army helicopter force to train on a new fleet of Blackhawks we sold them. (black hawks were the shit then) They had spent months here training so they would be hot and ready for a offensive when they returned and recieved their new choppers. What they did wrong was they put ALL the egyptians armies pilots and support staff on that one return flight. This was not a hidden fact to those in the know, and the rest is history. Of course it couldnt be told that we were training them to attack others that were friends of the USA, A lot of money was invloved in this business transaction, and the public was sold a sob story.
I half expect a knock at the door after I hit the send button on this.... this is the first time I have ever repeated it outside of me and my egyptain army captain friend.
You little kids.... you have no idea how corrupt this world really is.
my vote is for attacks on chitown,dallas and SD. SD can be cut off in a blink of the eye.
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Put down the vial and slowly move AWAY from the crack!Originally posted by cspdinc
what no one knows, is that america had brought over the elite egyptian army helicopter force to train on a new fleet of Blackhawks we sold them. (black hawks were the shit then) They had spent months here training so they would be hot and ready for a offensive when they returned and recieved their new choppers. What they did wrong was they put ALL the egyptians armies pilots and support staff on that one return flight. This was not a hidden fact to those in the know, and the rest is history. Of course it couldnt be told that we were training them to attack others that were friends of the USA, A lot of money was invloved in this business transaction, and the public was sold a sob story.
I half expect a knock at the door after I hit the send button on this.... this is the first time I have ever repeated it outside of me and my egyptain army captain friend.
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All they ever wanted is to
scare the shit out of us, people.
And I hate them. When will they ever stop?
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crack is goodOriginally posted by Centurion
Put down the vial and slowly move AWAY from the crack!Comment
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"Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster. "
Sun Tzu wrote this over 2400 years ago and its as relevent today as it was back then.
Problem is there are very few people in this administration who really know the enemy, and sadly the majority of them believes that dealing with asymmetric threats with cold war strategy is going to win this war on terrorism.
Al Qaeda knows American mentality better than we know them, with this in mind, I don't sleep well at night, and personally I'm not looking forward to the future.
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That sucks if they still have it somewhere
Thank God I'm in Brazil (God is ...)
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My money would be on London, they still haven't struck in the U.K.
But on the other hand, maybe they wouldn't wan't to kill too many muslims, and London ha a LOT of muslims...Comment
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Something that does scare me terribly is the thought of a strike against certain US military bases in the US.
I know of several which, if taken out, would cripple us. THAT scares teh shit out of me.
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DisneyOriginally posted by baddog
mind if I ask . . . . why FL?
Detonation outside the gats moments before opening would cause far greater casualties than most urban areas.
And the casualties would be mentally devestating to the country.
Thousands of children lined up to see Mickey Mouse suddenly vaporized, or dying of radiation poisoning in the local hospital.
Terrorism is primarily a war of the mind, make your "enemy" so afraid they do what you wish, kind of like what one bomb did in Spain.
Not realizing the Bloodlust inherrent in the Average American
Terrorists detonating a nuke on US soil would be the absolute worst thing a group could do for its cause, it would give us an excuse to use nukes, and we would no doubt against anyone we thought might be helping them.
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http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040321/D81F0G2G0.htmlOriginally posted by powerbubba
how about link to the story
from drudgereport.comComment
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Originally posted by Odin88
Ever heard of the Mexican border? A true/trained terrorist could surely get a suitcase nuke in to the US.
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the comment was in relation to shipping ports. Yes there are ways to get them into the country, much like you could get them into Australia, However in the US they can detect nukes moving into in most of the major cities. It's highly unlikely they will be shipped in, but even when they get in by other means they can be detected. This isn't to play down the danger.. being able to detect a bomb as soon as it enters a city isn't something that inspires me with confidence, but it's a safety margin that matters.Originally posted by Odin88
Ever heard of the Mexican border? A true/trained terrorist could surely get a suitcase nuke in to the US.
bio still scares me far more... far, far more. They do have bio detectors as well but thats closing the gate after the dog is out.Comment
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Lebed: Nuclear bombs are missing
The Russian military has lost track of more than 100 suitcase-sized one-kiloton nuclear bombs, said former Russian national security advisor Alexandr Lebed in an interview with CBS News' 60 Minutes. Lebed said he did not know what had happend to the missing bombs, but he was certain they were not under the control of the Russian military.
A spokesman for Russia`s Ministry of Defence on Friday denied that any nuclear devices were missig. "This statement by Lebed can cause nothing but a smile. He never dealt with nuclear security questions and cannot know the situation," said Vladimir Uvatenko.
here is the links to everthing about missing suitcase bombs
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...+nuclear+bombs
fucken scary--BUT:
if they have them wouldn't they have used them..
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