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Old 11-22-2004, 04:28 AM  
Drake
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Originally posted by junction
The problem Mike is, we Americans are too arrogant to see these things coming. History has proven that more than once. There are also economic resons for not doing anything about it.

China provides America with damn near EVERYTHING.

Some administrations even considered China an ally.

The Clinton administration for example sold china top secret missle and satellite guidance systems.

Those systems are now pointing at our troops in Iraq, as China then sold the technology to Iraq, Iran, and other Countries that hate us.

When the day comes that we Americans stop trying to push our views and religion onto others, this might all end. With the exception of the muslims. We crossed the line in the sand if you will. Their religion is pretty cut and dry. We will be at war forever now. This is a war of god to them not oil.
Let's say we didn't go to Iraq. We would still have the problem with China, would we not?

As you said earlier everything we buy at WalMart and any number of enormous "US" companies, the stuff is all manufactured in China, with more industry going over there every year.

Why keep a company here and pay workers minimum wage when you can produce the same stuff in China paying a few cents an hour.

Some will say that we are arrogant and pushing things on other people, but take that all away and look only at how we're dealing with China and India. We're not shoving anything at them. We're doing business with them. But what happens when virtually everything is being produced overseas and not here at home. Also, who is going to buy the products the Chinese produce when there are fewer Americans working because 1) depression and 2) their job has just been shipped overseas.

I see that we will be getting poorer and weaker in the coming years merely as a result of this 'trade' deficit we have. It's a by-product of wanting to make the most money and being competitive in a market where your competitors are going overseas to produce their goods cheaper and can sell them cheaper. I don't see any solution to this problem. None. And for me, this particular aspect has almost nothing to do with being arrogant.

Do you see it differently?

I also see the Euro gaining strength and even Europe centralizing power so that they are the 'counter-weight' to American power (or has this already come to fruition?) by putting all their differences aside to form a more cohesive stronger unified continent.
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