Ernest Sutphin died today.

Poor kid. Senseless

War fucking sucks

One day I know its gonna be someone I know.

ive seen so many names from cali that are 18 and 19.

these are just kids man..

It happens. Its war.

You know who to blame..

That's shitty.

How many more before the US gets out of Iraq?

That's awful. He didn't even have a chance to live yet.

indeed.... but that doesn't mean we can't acknowledge a few of them.

Fuck that really sucks....what a waste of youth

im sorry to hear that

I served in the US Army, and have many friends still in uniform, and a few in the middle east at the moment as well. I think its very cool for you to recognize.

He died to free the Iraqi people, and to stop world terror.

Poor guy... or kid, he was so young

Whats the big deal here?

He made the choice joining the army and YES.. that brings
the risk of actually having to go to combat and get killed.

didn't say it was a big deal. Just wanted to acknowledge this guy. He died today... cut him some slack.

(plus, those are the articles words in that quote, not mine.)

He did chose to join the army.....and you can be sure as hell
he knew the risks.....even though he still joined wether you
agree with this war or not......and no matter what argument
this kid died......no matter if he knew or not he did die and that's
sad no matter what you think of it........a person died and family
is left behind no matter what you think the fact that he died remains sad and that's all that matters IMHO

he join the army for college money.

that alone speaks for itself.

children are willing to die for a good education these days, says something about the education system.

no kid should have to die to learn.

thats not how it works.

thats just my opinion though.

With all the stupid threads and shit you spout on this board.....(yes I'm an oldtimer with a new nick) every once in a while you
post something very noble and often very humane.....and even
though often I have dissagreed with you....and often thought
you're completely insane......and then all of a sudden a post like
this.....and I realise that you might not be so insane after all.....
No asskissing intended here.....just after all the shit I've said
in the past.....even though it wasn't that much.....I thought it
was time to take at least once my hat of for you.....nothing more
nothing less......you can continue now stop making sense again...

Thank you

I agree allthough he could have picked something else I guess
to make money for his education....but I assume the pay including
the extra's fees to go to a war region was too tempting to let pass......I think they should at least screen the people they send
to these regions to make sure they don't send people that go
for the wrong reasons........but I guess then there wouldn't be
left enough to do the job........

hey around here in LA, the ARMY commericals are in Spanish.

these mexicans come in, get a citizenship, then join the military and are being shipped off.

take a look at all the mexican names from cali next time they scroll the deaths.

hey, "freedom" costs.

no different than Jean Lafitte getting blacks to fight, we get the mexicans to fight our war too.

Nobody is forced to join, they give you every oppurtunity to back out before you leave for basic training

Its seriously fucked how education and military service are tied together, but then again even inf freer nations where education is actually subsidized by the government often times a tour of duty in the army is required. Here you have to register for selective service to even get any government financial aid and with the recent upgrades to the draft program its almost a safe bet that it will be used soon.

Sad thing. My wish to be the last.

i agree.

too bad our president doesn't:

Bush Snubs Another Soldier's Funeral in Nearby Maryland

"Even when a funeral in nearby Maryland is reported on the front page of the Washington Post, or even when there is a funeral blocks from the White House at Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia, President George Bush still refuses to attend a funeral and thus accept responsbility for the lives lost due to his so-called pre-emptive war."

link

wow thats yong

That is just as sad man......with anything I posted I did not intend
to say anything that would either distinct in both good or bad in
favour for any race......

People that die during war is sad no matter if they chose or not
or wether you support the war or not.......people die everyday
and IMHO there is nothing that justify it being something good

the big difference in what i quoted and what you assume is, when we were fighting with Jean Lafitte we were defending New Orleans, we were defending our hom.

Fighting in Iraq is hardly the same as literally grabbing a fucking pike or a club and a canon stuffer and fighting in the war of 1812 and Chalmette, dont even compare. I know more of this war than a histopry book can tell you...

fighting for ones land and fighting for some fucking muslims are two different things.

i know which one i am for, and which one is for the powerfamilies.

"keep you doped with religion, sex, and tv."

So young.... there's still so many
things instore for him.

Through out this entire conflict I have been having flashbacks to high school lunches. I don't know if they did this in a lot of other schools but in mine the various branches of the military would take turns setting up a table just outside the cafeteria during the lunch times.

Sometimes the kids that were going to college stopped to talk to them but most of the guys that were going to college and wanted to think about a military carear went to the guidance councler and talked about scholarships.

The officers that stood outside lunches mostly talked to the kids that might not have been college bound for reasons other than finance. It was put to them as a carear option akin to going to work in a garage but better. Something to straighten out their lives. I also saw teachers direct the truly academically challenged kids to the stands and more of less tell them it was their only choice in life. I have been wondering how many of them are still in and if it worked out for them. If they were just chosen as cannon fodder.

I just recently heard from a long lost high school friend. He was one of the college bound guys, very bright and very close to me in high school. I was a bit suprised to find out he is now a PR agent for one of the airforce divisions. That was a nice face for me to put to things because I know he isn't the 'lets go bust some heads' variety and for a slight moment I felt a bit better about things. Only slight.

My cousin's husband is just a tad older than that soldier AMP highlighted. He has been in special forces based out of Germany for a while but just was discharged. In his time he has been to Kosovo, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq and most likely places he isn't allowed to tell us. They stopped back through London on their way to move back to the States.

I watched him hold his two year old baby (my cousin gave birth to a still born a month before their visit), listen to his tales of Irag and thanked the lord (or whoever) that my friend from high school never had to put his name in a press release.

Regardless on my views of the president, the war and why we are there, I feel for each of the soldiers and their familes. I also feel for the innocent people of Iraq that die. One doesn't have to wish the death of one of them inorder to highlight the other.

he's so young to die!!
im sad to hear that!!