No Wonder Hitler Rolled Over Europe So Easily

The dude that wants to get the Spanish troups out of Iraq isn't doing that because of 11m he does it because it was a promise he made months ago, but besides that you do have got a point

It scares me too that leftist countries are so afraid of war. Not the best mindset when theres still a lot of dangerous evil people in the world.

Spain basically elected a communist regime because of that attack. Its scary how they were able to influence the people like that.

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about. When they were in the opposition they already said if they would win the elections they would pull back the troops. That was before the bombings.
And now they won and want to pull back out of iraq, so nothing new actually

keep the politics off the board
if u dont know wtfck ur talking about!

Stupid ass

You read 12 clicks post on another board

The only link is that Iraq is a muslim country. They attacked Spain for supporting the US in the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.
Now maybe you're like Bush and don't like that thing called proof and prefer to make up your own facts.
Was there also a link between Kuwait and Al-Qaida when Al-Qaida wanted to drive Saddam out of Kuwait during GW1?

They did? I don't see them appeasing the ETA or removing there support from Afghanistan. Once again, you're making up one lie after another. He promised that he'll remove the troops if the UN doesn't get a wider role in Iraq and he's sticking to what he promised, he's not gonna let terrorists influence his decisions.

Hey Buff, you should go to the Middle East and kick the shit out of each and every Arab! Put a personal touch on it and kick their asses to sleep!

Interestingly Germany didn't invade Spain.

Well to Americans, it is new:

Since when does an " elected" politician or president honour is electoral promises.....

Bush promised " that the US is not getting into country rebuilding" and " I will reduce the country's spending"....

Oh... buy yourself a clue... read a newspaper for a change will you?

Yes and those big strong brave Americans are fearless.

How many of them cancelled coming to London when the IRA were bombinthere??

Buff, please put your brain into motion before engaging your mouth, or fingers.

pussies? you all are a bunch of pussies.

I don't agree with everything in this commentary, ESPECIALLY the religious parts,.....but it's very well wrtten....

Please read - it's worth the time...



BreakPoint with Charles Colson
Commentary #040316 - 03/16/2004


An Ill Wind from Spain
Terrorists and the Democratic Process

There is a white flag blowing in the breeze over the beautiful city of Madrid. Muslims, who once fought a bloody war to occupy much of Spain-which they did for centuries, have now done it with a few bombs, an ominous portent indeed.

In The Clash of Civilizations, Samuel Huntington wrote that there are three great religious blocks in the world: Eastern religion; the
scattered nations of Islam; and Western civilization, influenced by the Judeo-Christian tradition, embodied in the United States and Europe. As we look at September 11 and its aftermath, we have to conclude that Huntington was right when he predicted that the clash between Islam and the West would be the great struggle
of the twenty-first century.

But Huntington went on to say that Islam would win. I disputed that at the time, but given recent events in Europe, I'm beginning to wonder.

Spain is one of the two major European nations to support America's position in Iraq and the War on Terrorism. If, as it now appears, al Qaeda was responsible for bombing the trains in Madrid just days before the election, then al Qaeda has defeated Spain by giving the Socialists an upset victory over
the center right party of Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar. Observers say the war issue brought about the surprise upset. The Prime Minister-elect, Jose Luis Rodriguez Zabatero, has promised to bring Spanish troops home from Iraq-just what the demonstrators in the streets have been screaming for.

In bombing those trains, al Qaeda fired a warning shot at the West-if you come after us, put troops in the Middle East, and try to destroy radical Islam, we will destroy you.

And so the Spanish and the rest of Europe have surrendered. They will allow the United States to fight this out alone, as Islam takes an ever larger hold, population-wise, in all European nations. One can see a progression in which Europe becomes neutralized and then falls under the influence of Islam. It may take a generation or two, but it is almost inevitable if the Spanish elections are any sign of European resolve. We find nations too comfortable-or perhaps too decadent-to fight for their own liberty.

There is a second ominous portent here: We can expect al Qaeda to attempt a major attack of the United States on the eve of our
presidential elections this year to try to do the same thing to us that they did to the Spaniards.

Do we have the will and the resolve to continue to battle Islamist
extremists?

Our only defense is to deal with nations that are sponsoring
terrorism-the real reason we went into Iraq in the first place (weapons of mass destruction, I think, are secondary). We must, as Bernard Lewis, the great scholar of Islam at Princeton says, build a democratic structure in the Middle East that will bring about an end to the oppressive Islamic regimes.

The radicals know that modernity cannot be conquered in the free marketplace of ideas. It must be destroyed.... bin Laden has written this, as have others. Are we willing to let them have their way?

I'll speak for myself: The answer is, "No." If we really love our
nation and the people around us, we will be willing to defend them. In fact, it is the greatest expression of Christian love to defend our neighbors against the threat to our way of life and, of course, our Christian faith.

Maybe, just maybe, what has happened in Spain will serve as a wake-up call, because September 11, you see, was not just an isolated event. We are in a real war.

Everything I've heard suggest the popular part was expected to win before the bombing. But I suppose the rightist could easily of made that up here in the States because they want to portray our Allies to be exceptionaly weak on the principles we believe in. Yes that is possible i suppose.